Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Don't attack me! I was only quoting Don Siegel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Direction is more important then script! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 The script is like the recipe. The director is the person who cooks the meal. You want your steak cooked by Uwe Boll or by James Cameron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Neither. Nolan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Blessed be the Nolanites, for they shall inherit the cinema's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,306 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Vision and direction are often overlooked. Look at TV movie of The Shining. It's even more intact to the original foundation as Kubrick's film, yet without the masterful storytelling. Any story told poorly is in effect a bad story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 The great directors use the script to tell their story, rather then just tell the story thats in the script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 And yet i've never heard from a director that he/she was keen on directing a lackluster script for style reasons only. Even a total stylist like Hitchcock was adamant on a good story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,306 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Hitchcock is very plot driven. We have to look more at Charles Laughton's The Night Of The Hunter for style driven movies of that day. Strip Alien from its style and you have another banal Ten Little Indians story. Imagine that 2001: ASO looked like every other sc-fi movie of that time. Yes, you need a good foundation but style is pretty important too. A masterful storyteller can take a simple story and turn it into something magical. See the simple cat & mouse part of NCFOM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 'Night of the Hunter' has a pretty solid story. 'Alien' as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,306 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Sure, it's got well written down-to-earth dialogue and good performances but if you have never seen the film and I told you the story of Alien in a pub, publicist, you would probably question my sanity. If Ridley Scott was the director of Event Horizon and he made it the same way he made Alien, the 'top 10 best sci-fi movies' would look slightly different. Yes, EH had good decors but the storytelling was practically nonexistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 56 minutes ago, publicist said: And yet i've never heard from a director that he/she was keen on directing a lackluster script for style reasons only. Even a total stylist like Hitchcock was adamant on a good story. Of course a good story matters, but the way it's told is often more important. Who would you rather hear tell an amusing anecdote, Bill Gates of Sir Peter Ustinov? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Both of you come up with pretty self-serving analogies that don't really address what a proper SHOOTING script is (not some half-assed first draft). Visual stylizing and all that i give you but both of you obviously never had any experience working on stuff like this. Years before i was story consultant in tandem with a friend for something as comparably simple as 10 to 20 minute grad student movies in our local film school. I can assure you that, i. e. 'Alien' is quite a well-thought out story when you consider all the offhand characterization and i'm certain that wasn't just some improv by the actors and Scott. There has to be a groundwork there. The problems with bad scripts often start with much more dire problems - like what the core of the story is and so on. And even if that is clear, the geometry is still in the mist. How much dialogue a character gets (esp. in relation to others), how to break the movie up in 80 scenes that work, when to insert a longer purely visual sequence (film music fans would be much bigger experts there, directors often find out in the editing room). A good script takes care or at least lays a groundwork for all of that. So no, i don't think that Ridley Scott would have made a brilliant movie from the 'Event Horizon' script. Would it be better? Who knows for 1998 Scott, but it's really not that simple. That's why i referred to Alfred Hitchcock: he was the first real sustained stylist who used a story to hang up his favourite psychological traits, like fears etc. He still sat there with his authors sweating it out in many months. Because he knew that technique can only get you so far. Look at 'Topaz': some brilliant Hitchcock visuals but the movie still is a colossal bore. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Even in The Church, we understand and accept the Savior's weaknesses. Who would be the dream writer for Nolan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Damon Lindelof! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,443 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 1 hour ago, TheWhiteRider said: Even in The Church, we understand and accept the Savior's weaknesses. Who would be the dream writer for Nolan? Weaknesses? He can't be much of a saviour, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Stefancos said: Damon Lindelof! Careful! Your standing in The Faith is not beyond question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Strong words from someone who questioned the infallibility of the Lord! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 5 hours ago, TheWhiteRider said: Who would be the dream writer for Nolan? Tom Stoppard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,443 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Howzabout Alain de Botton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Let us give thanks for this quiet sanctuary, and pray that it remain thus, undisturbed. NolanFans has been overrun by Harry Styles fans. It's actually quite hilarious. I realized I hadn't checked that site in years, thinking there might be some good tidbits about Dunkirk... there may be, but it's not worth enduring what else is there. Spare yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,306 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 1 hour ago, TheWhiteRider said: I realized I hadn't checked that site in years, thinking there might be some good tidbits about Dunkirk... there may be, but it's not worth enduring what else is there. Spare yourself. Apostate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,443 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Exactly. I've got seven daggers, upstairs (used once). Shall I go and get them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 On 8/19/2016 at 2:00 PM, Richard said: Weaknesses? He can't be much of a saviour, then. Of course he can. Jesus' strength was his need to die, a weakness for anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,235 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 7-minute Dunkirk prologue to play before Rogue One in select IMAX theaters Also: Quote Nolan’s Dunkirk will feature over 100 minutes of IMAX material, according to sources close to the production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,306 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Maybe Nolan will give us 100 minutes of quadraphonic, chaotic battle scenes that put the audience right in the middle of the action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Another back to the camera poster. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,268 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 That's a Nolan poster alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,306 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 On 12/6/2016 at 8:44 AM, Alexcremers said: Maybe Nolan will give us 100 minutes of quadraphonic, chaotic battle scenes that put the audience right in the middle of the action? Based on the poster, I was right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,443 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 On 17/09/2016 at 0:15 PM, petaQ said: Of course he can. Jesus' strength was his need to die, a weakness for anyone else. I...am a worm! On 05/12/2016 at 11:21 PM, mrbellamy said: 7-minute Dunkirk prologue to play before Rogue One in select IMAX theaters Thanks for the tip. I'll get there 7 minutes later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Not his best poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,304 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Lame poster. I was just rewatching the teaser the other day, and I can't help but feel this could be a real winner. Possibly Nolan's finest, or at least his most handsome looking film. It seems this is just the canvas his sensibilities needed right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Yes. But after that he's going back to Batman...right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,306 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 No, he's getting to old for for Fantasy and action. Like Spielberg after a while, he wants to be taken seriously as a moviemaker. He'll be doing that for a while. Then, if he's old, he will direct Tintin in Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Let's hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,306 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Why? Do you really look forward to Nolan's Anna Frank: Her True Story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Still waiting for Verhoeven to tackle that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 961 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Looks cool. Well I do have one concern about the first shot. To me, this street does not look like a WW2 street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Wow, some excellent shot composition and cinematography on display there. The dull color palette Nolan likes to use is perfectly suited for this kind of movie, methinks. toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,268 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I'm not fond of the music in the second half of the trailer Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Oh, I watched it with sound off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,306 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Image quality of this trailer is very sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 That Hoyte van Hoytema knows his stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,306 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 It's 70mm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,304 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Film looks beautiful, visually that is. Thought we might get a snippet of Zimmer's score as well though. The trailer music was awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 With this and Murder on the Orient Express, it's nice to Kenneth Branagh doing work that actually seems interesting. His career has been (artistically, not commercially) in the doldrums for so long now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 That trailer was awful. Wasn't impressed by anything I saw. Whoever put that trailer together needs shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Looks like fantastic cinema. Let's all be thankful that a guy like this has access to massive budgets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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