BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 13 hours ago, SafeUnderHill said: Here you go Episode 8 Ideal Score The three concert suites for the PT are among the least interesting stuff JW has written for those films! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tom 4,637 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 2 hours ago, BloodBoal said: The three concert suites for the PT are among the least interesting stuff JW has written for those films! I would disagree with that claim for TPM, though it did feel like Williams lost interest in concert suites for the next two. The material was there, at least for RotS (Anakin's betrayal, dark deeds, grevious), for a longer suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Oh, to see the look on Richard Marquand's face if Williams played him that on the piano in his office when previewing the score. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 George: Screw paying for the LSO, let's use that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 7 hours ago, crumbs said: Oh, to see the look on Richard Marquand's face if Williams played him that on the piano in his office when previewing the score. Doesn't sound that different from a modern Williams action cue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 TLJ feels darker and more brooding than TFA. I think the writing will head into darker territory ala Across the Stars, The Jedi Steps and Anakin's Betrayal, complete with subtle choral accompaniment. That's basically my favourite mode of Williams music. Moreso than 'first film themes' like Anakin's Theme or Rey's Theme which lean towards optimism and hope more than despair. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 1 minute ago, crumbs said: TLJ feels darker and more brooding than TFA. I think the writing will head into darker territory ala Across the Stars, The Jedi Steps and Anakin's Betrayal, complete with subtle choral accompaniment. That's basically my favourite mode of Williams music. Moreso than 'first film themes' like Anakin's Theme or Rey's Theme which lean towards optimism and hope more than despair. Oh hang on, I'll be in the Unpopular Opinions thread about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I hope he brings back the droid motif! And the Imperial theme! Maybe reference "Final Duel"... Unlucky Bastard and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 So there was a Star Wars Music and Sound panel at Comic Con with Conrad Pope as one of the panelist. I couldn't find much of it online. Anyone know if it will be posted online or anything? Conrad usually has great insight into JW's music and process. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Well there's at least this much online. Worth posting. Watching now Edit: Nevermind just sound effects stuff Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I've been wondering what the "headliner theme(s)" for this score will be for (in other words, the new themes that will play in the end credit suite). Will it be a new character theme, a duel and/or battle theme, a love theme, a hate theme, something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I reckon there'll be a new theme for Rey (tied to her training with Luke) and a quirky love theme for Finn and Rose, minimum. I guess it wouldn't be a surprise if we got a full blown militaristic First Order theme, based around Kylo Ren's motif (now he's becoming a full blown villain). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I wonder if he'll write something new for Snoke or just stick with the male choir drone. Guess it depends what his role is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I'm guessing Snoke's music will be less atonal. Wonder how mindful he is of avoiding a regurgitation of the Emperor's Theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 42 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: I wonder if he'll write something new for Snoke or just stick with the male choir drone. Guess it depends what his role is. Judging by the Lego minifigure's Spoiler open chest area and golden robes, perhaps we'll get something a bit more flamboyant and florid. Almost like a lovers' theme but with a dark edge and sung by a male/low female choir. 51 minutes ago, crumbs said: I reckon there'll be a new theme for Rey (tied to her training with Luke) and a quirky love theme for Finn and Rose, minimum. I guess it wouldn't be a surprise if we got a full blown militaristic First Order theme, based around Kylo Ren's motif (now he's becoming a full blown villain). The first seems like a given to me. A Finn/Rose theme might happen but Rian mentioned something about there not being any prominent love story in the film (perhaps a friendship theme?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I'd love it if the film had more soloists. Cello? Guitar? I know that's not really Star Wars-ian but he keeps reinventing the sound of the series so why not? I can picture something medieval for the Croatian planet, maybe more harpischords. That stuff was fun in AOTC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,625 Posted July 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2017 What I'm expecting: Possibly a better score than Episode 7. Williams was sick when he had to do that one crumbs, Will and Chewy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I'm really very optimistic. Firstly there is not that illness issue, secondly I trust in the composer developing the scope and the themes, so that Episode 7 is more or less like a basis of the new score. Oh, and I expect it to be darker. Who does not? It's gonna be legen- wait for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post karelm 2,903 Posted July 26, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2017 On 7/24/2017 at 5:53 PM, Disco Stu said: Well there's at least this much online. Worth posting. Watching now Edit: Nevermind just sound effects stuff Hey, that's our panel! haha. The full topic is music and sound effects from the original movie. You guys might enjoy this picture I took when David Cripps (principal horn of LSO original trilogy) first met Conrad Pope (orchestrator prequel trilogy). Mr. Cripps was my Comic-con roommate and Mr. Pope was my teacher/mentor. 600 people attended the panel with another 1,200 people in line who couldn't get in. It was also amazing to hear the sound design team talk of their initial experiences. Disco Stu, Jay, toothless and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Im expecting JW to knock it out of the park but Zimmer to still clear up at the major awards Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I honestly don't know what to expect from this score, beyond "it will sound like Star Wars!". I do think that those desiring a more prequelesque sound will be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I do think that those desiring a more prequelesque sound will be disappointed. Let's hope so, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 13 hours ago, karelm said: Hey, that's our panel! haha. The full topic is music and sound effects from the original movie. You guys might enjoy this picture I took when David Cripps (principal horn of LSO original trilogy) first met Conrad Pope (orchestrator prequel trilogy). Mr. Cripps was my Comic-con roommate and Mr. Pope was my teacher/mentor. 600 people attended the panel with another 1,200 people in line who couldn't get in. It was also amazing to hear the sound design team talk of their initial experiences. Neat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,272 Posted July 26, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2017 My only real hope for the score is that it's its own thing and not a Home Alone 2/COS style retread. Probably won't be an issue with a new writer/director (and one who generally has little in common with JJ Abrams) but so much of the core material should carry over and the narrative will pick up right away from TFA so I do hope he gets the right balance of continuity with new stuff. Wonder what's more likely: Williams relying too heavily on TFA's sound and thematic material or not enough? I do hope he keeps pushing Rey's Theme, and would be cool to get some opportunities for more indulgent renditions. At least one reference each of Resistance March and Poe's theme would be good, I wouldn't even mind getting more of the latter than TFA if his part is bigger. Wonder how well it would translate to a more dramatic setting, for example. Kylo's two motifs I can sort of take or leave tbh, I'm just not sure how much more he can get out of them in those muted brass/low woodwind settings. But if he can keep finding ways to expand them melodically, texturally, harmonically etc then great. Just want evolution in the character and his music. And something besides the Force theme to end the film....please. Not Mr. Big, Cerebral Cortex, John and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: And something besides the Force theme to end the film....please. A triumphant rendition of the Porgs' theme! Will and John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 -dary! Legendary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I've been waiting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,637 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 On 7/26/2017 at 11:21 AM, mrbellamy said: And something besides the Force theme to end the film....please. A mournful rendition of Luke's theme as the camera pans over his funeral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Where are the leaks about this score? Why haven't we heard anything!? This isn't fair!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, crumbs said: Where are the leaks about this score? Why haven't we heard anything!? This isn't fair!! Leaks only serve to dilute the impact of the score's legitimate release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 What if the sessions leaked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Then that would dilute the impact of the score's legitimate release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 What if Disney decide the score will only have a digital release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 894 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 To heck with leaks! I'm waiting for fake leaks a la Episode VII! Or maybe this score will feature an operatic cantilena and a swing number, and that guy from 2015 will be vindicated after all. ("They were just recording stuff for VIII a couple years early!") DarthDementous and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 "There will be an operatic choir piece that makes Duel of the Fates sound restrained!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Didn't @azahid mention another piece he knew something about besides the casino stuff he teased? You know you want to tell us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 He said something about a Waltz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Perhaps it's both at the same time. Maybe some sort of jazz waltz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 A jalztz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DarthDementous 1,059 Posted July 29, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2017 can't wait to to hear more of John William's Jizz. Disco Stu, Not Mr. Big, Cerebral Cortex and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 1 hour ago, DarthDementous said: can't wait to to hear more of John William's Jizz. The music is so alive, so vital and real, I can practically smell John's Jizz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 29, 2017 Author Share Posted July 29, 2017 I thought Tom Hanks said "jizz" when he handed Catherine Zeta-Jones that tin in The Terminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Former Tucson Symphony Orchestra lead cellist Xiaodan Zheng added to the scoring page on IMDb. Didn't work on TFA but is a regular on film scores. Surely confirmation of extended cello solos in the new theme Rey of Light? There's no other plausible explanation. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will 2,215 Posted August 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2017 I had a dream last night that it was December and the OST had just leaked. Was very disappointed when I woke up. Gosh, Christmas seems so far away... Cerebral Cortex, Damien F, John and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,376 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 11 hours ago, Will said: I had a dream last night that it was December and the OST had just leaked. Was very disappointed when I woke up. Gosh, Christmas seems so far away... Were you able to listen to it (in your dream) ? toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I'd love it if the score was interspersed with lots of solo performances of themes, in the vein of Lincoln, Munich, Azkaban and Geisha. I know it's not really Star Wars to have lots of soloists but somehow Johnson's approach for this film seems ripe for such writing. I think the isolation of Luke and Rey will be a musical goldmine for Williams. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,272 Posted August 2, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2017 I can see him going back into his Ralph Vaughan Williamsy, Far and Away/War Horse mode for the island stuff. Not Mr. Big, crumbs and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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