#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 This year it will be Batman versus Superman, and Iron Man against the Captain. So DC against DC, Marvel against Marvel, but ultimately Marvel against DC.... Two films which seem to centre around beloved heroes in conflict with each other. Alien versus Predator but with Superheroes. My vote goes to Batman versus Superman. I have no idea why they should fight. And it seems clear that Supes would clip the bats wing in seconds. But there are the two oldest and most enduring superheroes. So there definitely is a sense of occasion here. Cap versus Stark seems like second tier entertainment in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Captain America over the bat and angstman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Suicide Squad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Independence Day Resumption Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I would vote for Cap and Iron Man if I wasn't bored at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I'm much more of a Lucasfilm person than a comic book film person. I've enjoyed some of the batman films but I've never cared for Marvel. I have zero interest in batman vs superman. I'm looking forward to The BFG this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 Thanks for your contribution to this thread then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 LOL Well I guess I should have said if I had to pick I'd pick Captain America in this case. I can't take Ben Afleck seriously as Batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 Really? From what little I've seen of him he looks like he is going to nail it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I'm more looking forward to Civil War than Dawn of Justice. But not for the hero vs hero stuff, more the other continuing storylines in this universe ; the end of the Peggy Carter arc, Bucky and Cap reuniting, aftermath of Ultron, how the various Avengers deal with their differing opinions on the new political stuff, etc. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Neither. I wish superhero films would just die out already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 43 minutes ago, Mr. Big said: Neither. I wish superhero films would just die out already. eventually it will. I think BO numbers will start reflecting that this year. However if they continue to make good quality films.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Dawn Of Justice, purely for Zimmer's score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 Tom Holkenborg and Zimmer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Hans Zimmer, eh? Who's scoring this new Cap movie, Hugh Jackman again? This reminds me, there was a time in my life when I'd buy any Elfman score without question. He used to be that good. But the other day I saw Avengers 2 in the soundtrack section at JB Hi-Fi, saw the pricetag of about $40, put it down and never looked at it again. Beats me why some score CDs like Cap 1 and Thor were like $17 in Australia, but Avengers 2 is like some overpriced import. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I think Affleck looks good in the role when he's not in a goofy robot suit, but that's judging strictly from what little we've seen in the trailers. I'm mostly just interested in seeing that take on Batman. It may be a mistake that a new interpretation of the character is part of an ensemble movie with a million other DC Comics characters, but who knows how it'll turn out. I could care less about Marvel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Probably won't see either. Man of Steel was a disaster on every front, and I couldn't care less about Marvel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 Man Of Steel was mired by its script, which insisted of explaining almost everything in painstaking detail. I call it "Nolan's disease". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 You guys aren't real fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 11 hours ago, Indianagirl said: I'm much more of a Lucasfilm person than a comic book film person. I've enjoyed some of the batman films but I've never cared for Marvel. Indiana Jones if often described as a comic book character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 3 hours ago, Stefancos said: Man Of Steel was mired by its script, which insisted of explaining almost everything in painstaking detail. I call it "Nolan's disease". Maybe. But notice how Nolan himself distanced himself from this film. At first, they were using his name heavily to get this thing going. But the closer they got to release, he seemed to have disappeared completely from publicity materials. I can understand he's been working on TDKR, but it was noticeable to me. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 To be honest, from the beginning Nolan has said "We have set it up (story, concept) but everything else is totally in the hands of Zack." Zack merely tried to give what the studio was asking for, which is never the right way of doing things, BTW. Recently Henry Cavill has said, we don't care what people say, we will continue with the style of the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I'm feeling all superhero'd out to be honest. I don't care who wins. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 Whoever wins...we lose! crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 10 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Whoever wins...we lose! Good movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Well I'm going to go out and see both these films tonight...... wish me luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I think I'll enjoy one more than the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 You will enjoy the Marvel one more then the DC one, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 You should add X-Men vs X-Men option now Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 10 minutes ago, crocodile said: You should add X-Men vs X-Men option now Karol What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Just joking. But yeah, there are some X-Men characters fighting other X-Men characters in Apocalypse. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Jay said: Well I'm going to go out and see both these films tonight...... wish me luck! In one evening? Prepare for contrast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 X-Men isn't playing in the USA yet, crocs. So because of the way the showings were, I'm seeing Batman first. Entered the theater 8 minutes before scheduled start time, and I'm the only one here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Wow, Batman v Superman was terrible. What a depressing slog to sit through. The film is not any fun and somehow feels too long and too short at the same time. It was way too dark, way too violent, and way too loud with a seriously terrible score that often featured loud pounding drums in scenes that probably didn't even need score at all. The best part of the film was easily Gal Gadot, she was completely terrific in every scene she was in Jermeny Irons was totally wasted in this. Affleck was alright I guess, but I never felt like he was playing any Batman or Bruce Wayne I knew. It's like a totally different portrayal so it was practically like a new character and not a continuation of such an established role. Best scene was easily Amy Adams in the bath tub. Hubba hubba! You don't see that in a Marvel movie! Speaking of Marvel movies, Cap 3 trailers are starting now.. I wonder how many of them will be the same . Wow there are way more people in this theater, heading towards totally full. Bat v Supes eventually got like 12 people in the theater Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 BvS is better because it's longer and more epic and more emotional bro. More realistic and more gritty and more relatable bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Well that wasn't bad, not as good as Winter Soldier because it was just battles and discussion, no mystery solving or game changing. Spider-Man was great, Black Panther ain't bad. Vision is too powerful, I think he'll be killed off in Avengers 3. Another completely forgettable score but at least it never made the film worse like BvSs. I miss Nick Fury and SHIELD stuff too. Cap making out with Peggys niece was kinda odd. How is she an aunt anyway, her only brother from the show was dead in the 40s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Jay said: Cap making out with Peggys aunt was kinda odd. How is she an aunt anyway, her only brother from the show was dead in the 40s. Did he time travel? Peggy's aunt would be long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 3 hours ago, Jay said: Wow, Batman v Superman was terrible. What a depressing slog to sit through. The film is not any fun and somehow feels too long and too short at the same time. It was way too dark, way too violent, and way too loud with a seriously terrible score that often featured loud pounding drums in scenes that probably didn't even need score at all. The best part of the film was easily Gal Gadot, she was completely terrific in every scene she was in Jermeny Irons was totally wasted in this. Affleck was alright I guess, but I never felt like he was playing any Batman or Bruce Wayne I knew. It's like a totally different portrayal so it was practically like a new character and not a continuation of such an established role. Best scene was easily Amy Adams in the bath tub. Hubba hubba! You don't see that in a Marvel movie! Speaking of Marvel movies, Cap 3 trailers are starting now.. I wonder how many of them will be the same . Wow there are way more people in this theater, heading towards totally full. Bat v Supes eventually got like 12 people in the theater Idiot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 The most profound issue with both these films is that the concept behind them is too much a gimmick and the plot too artificial because of that. Both films spend a lot of time and dialogue on why the heroes are going up against each other, but in both cases it involves manipulations of an outside party, rather then any real difference in views or beliefs that would justify such a clash. Especially with Civil War it feels like the guys all having a sit down together and actually talk things though would have avoided a lot. BvS is a bit too heavyhanded for it's own good. And the plot is very clunky (no surprise since its both a reboot, a sequel and a set up movie) Civil War is actually a bit too lightweight for it's own good. Up until the very end none of the heroes seem to want to actually hurt each other. So they are all sorta pulling their punches. No one dies and even Rhodes gets injured because of friendly fire. Jason is right that Vision is too powerful for this particular conflict, which is probably why he was largely sidelined during the big battle. It's also a possible reason why thor and Hulk arent in this. Both films are entertaining, if flawed. Structurally Civil War is better, but it's largely an inconsequential film. Mostly a set up for Avengers 3. BvS is more important to it's franchise, and it's a more ambitious film, though more flawed then the more polished Civil War. I would give a slight edge to BvS over Civil War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Ugh, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 Yes. It's more flawed, but also more ambitious. And Snyder's visual acumen is more interesting to me then that of the Russo's. And finally, it has a better score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 BvS has a more flawed script than Civil War does. It borders somewhere between stupid and really stupid. Ambitious perhaps. But that ambition apparently fell flat before the movie even started shooting. Couldn't have thought of a slightly more sensible reason for the titular fight to occur and finish? And for Superman to "die" from kryptonyte poisoning despite there being two very clear alternatives? Dark, gritty, not at all fun, seemingly ambitious, supposedly realistic and in the end SO DUMB! That's "modern movie syndrome" right there. Those type of movies truly couldn't end soon enough for me. If you know you have a movie that isn't too be taken seriously, there is quite a lot of silly stuff I can forgive. Not when you pretend it is a serious and "important" movie when if really totally isn't. That just makes it even more stupid then a movie that knows itself to be stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 How was its box office in the end? Respectable? Is Snyder to be removed from the franchise? Is Cavill's Supes done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 Very respectable. Critics hated it, but it made a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Because everybody wanted to see for themselves if it was truly as bad as it's made out to be? That might almost be considered a clever marketing strategy. By that reasoning, the next Ghostbusters might do surprisingly well too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Box office wise, BvS is set to rival The Avengers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 That's brilliant for Warners, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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