Jwfan2234 59 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Is it ok, or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Rip it now, listen, buy it if you like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Frankly its up to your own moral code. Do whatever feels right to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 It's just like copying DVDs you rent from Netflix or Redbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I'd say "not OK," but my thoughts on right/wrong usually differ from the majority of the board (re: bootlegs, leaked sessions, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Who. Cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Alexander said: Who. Cares? Yea. Why not just do it and not ask publicly about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Having a limited budget should not be an obstacle to music listening. I discovered many artists by borrowing CDs a my library when I was young. I remember that Joe Dassin boxset I could not afford... well, few years later when I got my first job, I bought it at my local music store! Then came the internet... Still today I often download "samples" of the things I want to discover. And as I have a limited but still great budget for music, most of the time, when I love, I buy. And this kind of forum is really a terrible place...as each one shows what they listen, what they buy.....it have the effect to push everyone to complete their collection.. we discover new things... and buy...and buy... and buy!!! More, more and more!!! Since I come here, my John Williams collection has tripled. So the important thing is to pay for music you love. But few days or month can pass between the moment you listen... and the moment you pay. And we have to be honnest, in the soundtracks domain, many items are offered in limited edition. Sometimes we don't have the choice to "help" each others while waiting for a reissue. ;-) Feel the powa of the dark side. Buy CDs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 If you're lucky, you should even be able to convince your library into purchasing boutique label albums. The Ghent library has a fair deal of those, for example, including LLL's 1941 and even the weirdly egregious recent 3 CD release of a certain Jerry Fielding western score. Also, again: we have a Quick Question thread for inquiries of this kind. Right here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 My 1st Williams' scores in physical CD(r...) where The lost world and The last crusade borrowed from my library. I never got to get the ESB SE. Always already lent! . I got the patriot, and schindler's list too. I had like 15 years and not the money... I own the original cds of all those now mind you Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,679 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I'd say yes, it's wrong. But I run by a moral code that if something is for sale, you should pay for it. (Stuff that isn't for sale, big can of worms). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I ripped all of my CDs and gave them away to charity (second-hand) shops, and sold a few worth something. I prefer the convenience of mp3s, playlists, listening to full albums when they present the kind of listening experience, and taking individual tracks at will when they don't. About half of my current film score collection is paid for; about one eighth of my total music collection is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Alexander is just so helpful pointing out all the other places to post. He's a moderator in training. I'm so proud of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I just think it's really annoying when someone floads the forum with dozens of different threads created for every little one of his questions, either not knowing that he's drawing a lot of attention to him this way, or doing so on purpose. Even when he's already been made aware of the existence of a Quick Question thread. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I have ripped CD's inside libraries without even borrowing them. I wondered, heh, what's the difference? The whole thing of "you have to buy your stuff" (I wish I could always, at least with smaller artists) would get libraries closed if taken to certain extremes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, Woj said: Alexander is just so helpful pointing out all the other places to post. He's a moderator in training. I'm so proud of him. Wojo is just so intelligent noticing Alexander's aspirations. He really is an insightful person. I'm so glad we're blessed to have him as a member of our forum. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 19 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: But I run by a moral code that if something is for sale, you should pay for it. We'll make sure never to pick a book or a movie for a library ever again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Woj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,679 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Brónach said: We'll make sure never to pick a book or a movie for a library ever again! Ok, I should extend my original point to say '... and keep it'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Richard Penna said: Ok, I should extend my original point to say '... and keep it'. Oh, that would just be stealing from public property. Small scale corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Woj said: Woj. Wojo it once was, and Wojo it shall be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Okay kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,275 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Not okay in the legal sense, obviously, but I do it. The main thing for me is that the ability to rip stuff from the library to my iPod has made it so much quicker and easier over the years to catch up on all the historical and pop culture touchstones that I sort of vaguely knew by name but had never listened to. I hardly ever go to a library for new music (and I'm typically a lot more conscientious about deleting it after listening when I do), but it's always been much more part of a desperate kind of scrambling effort to familiarize myself with all the old stuff. Free music education has never been more convenient or addictive and it's hard to feel guilty about wanting to take in as much as I can without going broke, but of course people who go to a library exclusively so that they can steal new music are just being assholes. 1 hour ago, Alexander said: I just think it's really annoying when someone floads the forum with dozens of different threads created for every little one of his questions, either not knowing that he's drawing a lot of attention to him this way, or doing so on purpose. Even when he's already been made aware of the existence of a Quick Question thread. That's all. Generally I agree that it's annoying when threads pop up with easy one word answers that should go in the QQ thread, but this is a more debatable topic than that. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 15 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: Generally I agree that it's annoying when threads pop up with easy one word answers that should go in the QQ thread, but this is a more debatable topic than that. Agreed! This is morals we're talking about here! If I kill someone with a knife I stole, does that make me a worse person than someone killing someone else with a knife he/she bought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 19 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: Generally I agree that it's annoying when threads pop up with easy one word answers that should go in the QQ thread, but this is a more debatable topic than that. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Do something about it then! Get these JWfan younglings to tow the line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 20 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Agreed! This is morals we're talking about here! If I kill someone with a knife I stole, does that make me a worse person than someone killing someone else with a knife he/she bought? We need a poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 6 hours ago, Bespin said: Having a limited budget should not be an obstacle to music listening. Music isn't a birth right. The artists that work hard to bring that music to fruition deserve to be paid for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 And they are. None of the artists in the music aisle are starving unless they made stupid money handling decisions. A few people copying CDs from the library who wouldn't buy the CD anyways aren't the difference between boxed Kraft and lobster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 It's not okay, no. That doesn't mean I'd be above doing it, though; but I don't fool myself into thinking I'm not a hypocrite on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 There's a special place in hell for people who photocopy pages from a book at the library for any reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, Drax said: There's a special place in hell for people who photocopies pages from a book at the library for any reason. Right next to people who can't conjugate their verbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Funny, I had it right the first time and then I edited it. My attention span sucks lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I photocopied a rare first edition Star Trek Killing Time novel from the library! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Yeah, '71. That was my first year on the job. Bad year for libraries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I photocopied a CD once. Does that make me a bad person? Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Evil incarnate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Morally, it would be considered bootlegging, but in this day and age, nobody really cares. I have a different example. A few years ago, I spent several months transferring my entire CD collection (about 1000) to iTunes. That's obviously OK, as it's for my own personal consumption. But the problem occured when I sold off (and continue to sell off) some of my CDs, but still kept the iTunes transfer. That's also in a morally ambigious territory, but I don't feel terribly bad about it. For me, it was merely a matter of freeing physical space. Besides, several of the CDs I "sold off" were give-aways or close to give-aways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 People still go to the library for CD's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I thought libraries only had books. And that's why they were called libraries. If a library has discs, shouldn't it be called a discary, instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 No..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 They must have a collection of librettos then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Middle English, from Anglo-French librarie, Medieval Latin librarium, from Latin, neuter of librarius of books, from libr-, liber inner bark, rind, book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 "Discary" it is, then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Why do you listen to Inky, but not me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Discary would be a cool neologism. 'Discarium' (< discus + -arium) as opposed to 'librarium'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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