Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I never love Bond more than when the movies embrace being batshit stupid with an intelligent wink of the eye to them. It's why I haven't much liked the Craig era overall. Sharkissimo and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Evil-Lyn said: That's the popular opinion now? No, the popular opinion is that Skyfall is overrated, while Casino Royale remains the highlight of Craig's tenure. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 And Quantum of Solace sucks regardless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 QoS is OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 It's awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 It has its share of fans, believe me. There was one guy on a Bond forum who despised Craig's Bond with a passion, yet somehow made an exception for QoS. Thought it was truer to Fleming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Whether or not that's true, I haven't a clue. He's very "dark" in that film, drowning himself in booze and murdering for no good reason. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 In some ways it does. I like how it eschews the normal travelogue feel of a Bond film and goes for a very run down and desolate feel of the locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, Evil-Lyn said: Whether or not that's true, I haven't a clue. He's very "dark" in that film, drowning himself in booze and murdering for no good reason. I like it. Very similar to your favorite "mode" of The Doctor as well. You prefer your heroes callous and damaged, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I prefer 9 and 12. They're cold and grouchy and stuck on women. Like Bond in QOS and Batman in Batman Returns. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, Evil-Lyn said: Whether or not that's true, I haven't a clue. He's very "dark" in that film, drowning himself in booze and murdering for no good reason. I like it. Very Battfleck, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, Evil-Lyn said: I prefer 9 and 12. They're cold and grouchy and stuck on women. Like Bond in QOS and Batman in Batman Returns. Keaton and Pfeiffer, one of the great screen couples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, Evil-Lyn said: Him too. I bet in Justice league he's all neutered and changed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 Daniel Craig confirms his return for one final James Bond movie Quote Hollywood’s worst kept secret is finally official: Daniel Craig will return as James Bond for one final hurrah. After over a year of rampant speculation and a litany of casting rumors, the actor confirmed his participation in next Bond film during his appearance on Tuesday night’s Late Show with Stephen Colbert. Craig added that it will be his final Bond film, telling Colbert, “I just want to go out on a high note, and I can’t wait.” Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Ha! I love how he basically admitted that Spectre sucked with that statement. toothless and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,675 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Spectre was fun! Pretty stupid attempt to tie everything in the Craigiverse together in the plot, but it didn't stop me liking the film. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 "Craigiverse" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 "Cragiverse", really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Who is this "Daniel Creg" Colbert keeps mentioning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Spectre was fun! Pretty stupid attempt to tie everything in the Craigiverse together in the plot, but it didn't stop me liking the film. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,346 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 For me (although still enjoyable), its main misjudgment was reintroducing Blofeld ... and then having him be Bond's half-brother. The Craig films are obsessed with making elements of the missions 'personal' to Bond ... granted, Craig has said he 'wouldn't know how to play' the type of Bond where he's exactly the same at the end of the movie as he was at the start, unaffected by what has happened. But sometimes, I miss those days. Will and toothless 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Sweeping Strings said: For me (although still enjoyable), its main misjudgment was reintroducing Blofeld ... and then having him be Bond's half-brother. The Craig films are obsessed with making elements of the missions 'personal' to Bond ... granted, Craig has said he 'wouldn't know how to play' the type of Bond where he's exactly the same at the end of the movie as he was at the start, unaffected by what has happened. But sometimes, I miss those days. Me too. I grew up with Bond movies that were silly, fun diversions that were really into cool stunts. The Craig era has been marked with too much self-seriousness. I mean they're still really silly sometimes, but the movies don't seem "in on the joke" like the older eras. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,346 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I mean ... I'm not asking for the return of the double-taking pigeon sort of stuff *shudders*, or even of what Roger Moore cited as his main reason for finding it impossible to play 100% seriously - 'The guy's a spy, a secret agent ... and yet whichever bar he walks into anywhere in the world, the barman knows him by name and how he likes his Martinis mixed'. But there's surely 'room for manoeuvre'. Admittedly, some of what I'd call more traditional Bondian humour has crept back into the last 2 movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I thought the first two Brosnan came fairly close to the right balance of actual pathos and utter silliness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I thought they struck an ideal balance with Goldeneye, but overstepped the mark with Tomorrow Never Dies. It was a troubled production, and it shows on screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 GoldenEye is the best Bond film, we all know it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I remember when Casino Royale came out, people were reassessing GoldenEye as "maybe not as good as we remember it because it wasn't as realistic as the new one". And now everyone loves it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 What people and who is everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Not me. I don't know like anymore Bond movie, thus I don't consider any of them the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Stop pedantically questioning my generalisations. It's like how people suddenly thought the Tim Burton Batman movies were bad when Batman Begins hit the scene. Now everyone loves them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Again, who the hell are you talking about? Justin is the only person that likes Batman Returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 The internet people of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Rigggghttt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I tried to watch the first Tim Burton Batman movie recently and its pretty unwatchable in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 How is it unwatchable? I watched it the other day and it was fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Maybe his VCR ate the tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Justin is not the only one. Batman Returns is the best Batman movie. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Sally Spectra said: How is it unwatchable? I watched it the other day and it was fine. Its aged horribly. DominicCobb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Justin is not the only one. Batman Returns is the best Batman movie. Is today opposite day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,346 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 10 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I thought the first two Brosnan came fairly close to the right balance of actual pathos and utter silliness. But even those couldn't resist a) having the villain be an old colleague and friend of Bond's and b) having the villain's wife be an ex-girlfriend of his. I guess this stuff really started with Licence To Kill, with the entire plot driven by Bond's desire for vengeance for Sanchez' attempted murder and murder of Felix Leiter and his new bride respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 44 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: 44 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: Its aged horribly. How? By this logic, I may as well stop watching movies made in 2017 because I know they'll be "horribly aged" by 2040. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 43 minutes ago, Woj said: Is today opposite day? Burton Batmans are heightened gothic dramas. Nolan Batmans are boring slogs. I should say I have never much cared for the actual character of Wayne/Batman so I like the movies/shows that either downplay him or don't take him seriously. Therefore I really like the 60s show and the Burtons. Sharkissimo and Unlucky Bastard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Oh the first Burton Batman is probably still my favorite. But Batman Returns is a boring mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Michelle Pfeiffer is still the most interesting villain of any of the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Poison Ivy was the sexiest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 6 hours ago, Sally Spectra said: How? By this logic, I may as well stop watching movies made in 2017 because I know they'll be "horribly aged" by 2040. Because the effects and sets haven't held up and it's a bit camp in general. Some of the designs are great but it looks cheep. Both Terminator films or Jurassic Park, for example, are films which I don't think have aged a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 7 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Justin is not the only one. Batman Returns is the best Batman movie. Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: Because the effects and sets haven't held up and it's a bit camp in general. Some of the designs are great but it looks cheep. Both Terminator films or Jurassic Park, for example, are films which I don't think have aged a day. Jurassic Park seems to get better with age. It's more highly regarded now than when it was released. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 33 minutes ago, Muad'Dib said: Jurassic Park seems to get better with age. It's more highly regarded now than when it was released. Saw it again in the cinema recently. It's magnificent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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