Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Johnny's output in this decade has been outstanding. Not a single bad score, they are all brilliant! And if his health will be good, we will have many more, BFG, SW8 and Player One etc,,, Of course the quality of the performance(and the recording) is helping my brave opinion. Brilliant LA players, Chicago Symphony... 2000's is also very good, 90's so much overrated(it is a childhood of the most JWFanners) And if we would count 1975-1985 as a decade it would certainly win but we won't! Am I right(drunk) again? Edit: sorry this came to General Discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 He would have won Oscars if they were performed by the LSO, who are more versatile! crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Well that is a honest opinion but I never cared your opinions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,322 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 If he didn't win an Oscar for War Horse...I'm afraid we might not see him win another. That score got robbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,450 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 You could say that it bolted!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 19 minutes ago, hornist said: Johnny's output in this decade has been outstanding. Not a single bad score, they are all brilliant! True, not a single bad score (I think Williams is incapable of writing a 'bad score' at this point in his career), but except for WAR HORSE, none have been truly brilliant either. So in my opinion, this is the weakest decade in his career so far. But hey -- we're only halfway through. Plenty more potential in the years to come. I still think the 70s was his main decade in terms of a more 'objective' artistic brilliance, while my own personal favourite decade is the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, Thor said: I still think the 70s was his main decade in terms of a more 'objective' artistic brilliance, while my own personal favourite decade is the 90s. No love for the 60's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Plenty of love for the 60s -- more than most people here, I think. And the 80s. It's all relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 I knew I will be alone with this opinion. This thread was a little bit provocative, I know the consensus here is against Williams' modern output. But you are wrong! 90's has couple of good scores, Schindler and Hook but in the end of the day they are annoying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,450 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I don't find "Stanley And Iris", "JFK", "Sabrina", "Nixon", "Rosewood", and "The Lost World" annoying!!! Jilal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Not necessarily annoying but all of those are worse than any of his 2010's score!!! But I understand your love for the 90's because you are so young and actually two of those are annoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 'Annoying' is a weird adjective to use in this context, but hey -- you're entitled to your opinion. I'm glad you feel so passionately about his 2010's output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Ok, you are right. "Little bit tiring" would fit better my feeling... And I feel it IS my mission here to praise his modern, underrated scores!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Annoying? Tiring? You alcoholic turd! Better not go near my neck of the woods because I will slash your throat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 But why? These are just opinions... Why can't I reveal mine? May be it is your favorite decade but I have more perspective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Williams' 2010s output has been simply outstanding! Once and Jilal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, hornist said: But why? These are just opinions... Why can't I reveal mine? May be it is your favorite decade but I have more perspective... Perspective? Explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Im older. Older=wiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Excessive drinking kills brain cells! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jay said: Williams 2010s output has been simply outstanding! Yes! It might be different than the previous decades but I love these metamorphosis... 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Excessive drinking kills brain cells! But I have so much there to kill!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,045 Posted February 29, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 29, 2016 War Horse is simply one of the best, and most emotional scores of his entire career. Tintin is a delightful romp. Lincoln is wonderfully introspective with several A+ themes. The Book Thief is an engaging score that takes a hold of you from the start and doesn't let go until the end, and The Force Awakens is a delightful new direction in his action adventure scoring with wonderful themes and great variations of all of them (and I'm still chomping at the bit to hear the hour of unused alternates and stuff). I just cannot wait for The BFG, I think its going to be a real special one. I hope Johnny scores both Ready Player One and Episode 8! Scarpia, mrbellamy, Joni Wiljami and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Well said, Jason!! I'm not alone with my love for his recent scores. I just found out that The Book Thief is on Netflix. I checked out the quality(of course I have it on blu) but I couldn't because the music is too strong with the film. I cried like a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Did you think you were? Still no reason to disrespect his 90's works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Admittedly I haven't listened to The Book Thief as much as the others, but I've spun all the others many, many times. far more than any other 2010s score by other composers outside of the Hobbit scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Did you think you were? Still no reason to disrespect his 90's works. Sorry for that, bad choice of words. Of course its also brilliant. I was trying to be provocative but went too far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I like all of Williams' 2010 scores, but we're talking Williams here, so it's a level of evaluation all on its own. It's not really a question of 'good' or 'bad', but more about 'good' and 'slightly less good' or engaging. The only of his 2010 scores I can't really get into, despite multiple efforts, is THE BOOK THIEF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 14 minutes ago, Jay said: Admittedly I haven't listened to The Book Thief as much as the others, but I've spun all the others many, many times. far more than any other 2010s score by other composers outside of the Hobbit scores. The Book Thief = most underrated score in JWFan.com 11 minutes ago, Thor said: I like all of Williams' 2010 scores, but we're talking Williams here, so it's a level of evaluation all on its own. It's not really a question of 'good' or 'bad', but more about 'good' and 'slightly less good' or engaging. The only of his 2010 scores I can't really get into, despite multiple efforts, is THE BOOK THIEF. We have so different taste in music Thor! But I'm so thankful for you!! Why? Story: You saw TFA before me and you didn't fall in love with the music. So I went to the cinema (without hearing anything of the sore before) with no great expectations but it turned out my probably GREATEST musical experience in my long(49) life. And I have had many!! Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Ha, ha....always glad to be of service as an 'anti' thermometer! Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 5 hours ago, hornist said: I knew I will be alone with this opinion. This thread was a little bit provocative, I know the consensus here is against Williams' modern output. But you are wrong! 90's has couple of good scores, Schindler and Hook but in the end of the day they are annoying... You are not alone. I agree completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 NeoJWfan.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,268 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 We really like ranking stuff over here, don't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Well I see now kind of typo there. Not all of the 90's scores are annoying... That was just a sample, as great SL and Hook are they can also be annoying in some parts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 What do you mean with boring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 9 minutes ago, Romão said: We really like ranking stuff over here, don't we? So is there somsthing wrong about it? The great idea of this thread is to defend Johnny's 2010's scores which to my ear sound brilliant but are all the time bashed here in the so called JWfan.com!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,234 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 13 minutes ago, Romão said: We really like ranking stuff over here, don't we? Yes, we really are a bunch of rankers. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Who here does that? John Williams has written some fine scores in the new century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Every single score has had some bashing at first, even TFA. But Williams' scores tends to turn classics later, after multiple listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 They are growers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Yes they are! People should give a chance to the scores like The Book Thief. All I have read here is like its a snoozefest or boring... It is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Its good. There really aren't any bad Williams scores. What are you drinking tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booplor 12 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I don't think the highs of the 2010s have reached the highs of the last several decades for Williams. And of course this will be his least prolific decade, with hopefully 10 scores. On a similar note though, I agree that the lows have been nowhere near the lows of previous decades either. No boring Stanley & Iris or nonstop War of the Worlds scores in the mix. It's been a great decade for him, and hopefully The BFG turns out to be classic Williams fantasy. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I have to admit that I misread this a bit - the 2000's I would certainly call Williams' best decade. The 2010's are another matter, not necessarily reaching the same heights in my estimation despite some masterworks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Nice! I even lost my only supporter... What next?? I will run out of beer...!!! Damn. But I'm sure if this site still will exists in 2030 everybody will talk like "hey that drunken idiot hornist was right, JW's output was brilliant in that decade!" There Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I still support you in that these scores deserve more attention and less dismissive attitudes than they get! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Hey that helped a lot!! I will buy you a beer or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I've liked all his 2010s scores from first listen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Ummm.... You weren't that impressed at all with your first listen of TFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 It's a grower! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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