Popular Post WilliamsStarShip2282 308 Posted March 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2016 Just happened to stumble upon this. Seems as those Williams wrote a new piece called Fanfare for Civic http://csob.org/index.php pete, Joni Wiljami, Loert and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Wow, great find! Cerebral Cortex and WilliamsStarShip2282 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quintus 5,399 Posted March 25, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2016 Honda and John Williams. Didn't see that coming. Gnome in Plaid, Sharkissimo and WilliamsStarShip2282 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pete 907 Posted March 25, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2016 Quote Composer-conductor John Williams' Fanfare for the Civic, written especially for this orchestra, kicks off the season-closing concert, which also turns its spotlight on Boston Symphony Orchestra cellist Mickey Katz. Katz got his start with the Civic, and returns to perform Wiegala: A Lullaby by Wellesley native Julia Scott Carey and Schelomo: A Hebraic Rhapsody by Ernest Bloch, inspired by the words of King Solomon. Music Director and conductor Max Hobart leads the BCS in Brahms' monumental Symphony No. 1, which took the composer 14 long years to complete. https://www.goldstar.com/events/boston-ma/boston-civic-symphony-bso-cellist-mickey-katz-tickets Cerebral Cortex, WilliamsStarShip2282, Ricard and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Wow, cool! Williams already wrote "Fanfare for a Festive Occasion" for the Boston Civic Orchestra, but while I know the Boston Pops mainly consists of players from the Boston Symphony, I've never been quite sure how the Civic orchestra plays into all of this. 9 hours ago, Quintus said: Honda and John Williams. Didn't see that coming. Ha! But there is actually a precedent. Danny Elfman wrote music for Honda back in the 90s. Not specifically the Civic, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I'm starting to think if this piece is indeed the "Fanfare for a Festive Occasion" renamed, as the info above says nothing about whether or not this is a NEW piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 26 minutes ago, Thor said: I'm starting to think if this piece is indeed the "Fanfare for a Festive Occasion" renamed, as the info above says nothing about whether or not this is a NEW piece. ...written especially for this orchestra... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael said: ...written especially for this orchestra... Yes, but so was "Fanfare for a Festive Occasion". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,913 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 5 hours ago, Thor said: Wow, cool! Williams already wrote "Fanfare for a Festive Occasion" for the Boston Civic Orchestra, but while I know the Boston Pops mainly consists of players from the Boston Symphony, I've never been quite sure how the Civic orchestra plays into all of this. It is a training orchestra. Training orchestras can be quite good and JW has a long history with various civic orchestras. A training orchestra did his concert premiere of war horse suite with him conducting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Aaaaand ... another Williams fanfare we'll probably not get to hear anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 1 hour ago, karelm said: It is a training orchestra. Training orchestras can be quite good and JW has a long history with various civic orchestras. A training orchestra did his concert premiere of war horse suite with him conducting. Ah, thanks! A sort of 'recruitment ground', then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Ah thank you for the info! Another new fanfare from the Maestro is always welcome. Hopefully we might get a recording of this sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 6 hours ago, Thor said: I'm starting to think if this piece is indeed the "Fanfare for a Festive Occasion" renamed, as the info above says nothing about whether or not this is a NEW piece. Now that you say it... yes, it looks like that may be the case. I'd wait for more details to come out before considering it a new Williams piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 12 minutes ago, Ricard said: Now that you say it... yes, it looks like that may be the case. I'd wait for more details to come out before considering it a new Williams piece. Yup it actually is more than likely this is just Fanfare for A Festive Occasion, just under another title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,653 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 If it is the FfaFO, it is good that they are performing it. It was one of Williams most fun compositions--it deserves more performances. And, while we are at it, a proper recording. The Monsignor piece is close, but the fanfare is not identical to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Tom said: The Monsignor piece is close, but the fanfare is not identical to it. Are you referring to the one used in 'The Meeting in Sicily" and "Reunion in Italy"? That theme originated from Esplanade Overture, written around that time, but not the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,653 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Man, I am way off, aren't I. Yes, I was thinking of the Esplanade Overture. I'll go track down the festive occasion piece. I must have heard it already, but it is not coming to mind. How many orchestras does Boston have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 5 hours ago, Tom said: If it is the FfaFO, it is good that they are performing it. It was one of Williams most fun compositions--it deserves more performances. And, while we are at it, a proper recording. The Monsignor piece is close, but the fanfare is not identical to it. It has a proper recording, by the Bay Brass, on Harmonia Mundi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,653 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 8 hours ago, Miguel Andrade said: It has a proper recording, by the Bay Brass, on Harmonia Mundi. I was confusing the Festive Occasion piece with the Esplanade Overture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,913 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 23 hours ago, Thor said: Ah, thanks! A sort of 'recruitment ground', then... Sort of. It doesn't really work that way with a straight forward career advancement. It is more like the members are highly trained with a performance degree but there are many more performers than there are opportunities, so an orchestra exists for them to continue playing and honing their skills since these skills get stale very quickly if not used frequently. This in turn positions them better for future auditions when those opportunities arise. Is this not similar in Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Yeah probably, but I'm not knowledgeable enough about orchestra set-ups over here. So what does 'civic' mean in this context? That the orchestra consists of 'civilians', meaning 'amateurs' who don't have a paying job as a musician? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,913 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 4 hours ago, Thor said: Yeah probably, but I'm not knowledgeable enough about orchestra set-ups over here. So what does 'civic' mean in this context? That the orchestra consists of 'civilians', meaning 'amateurs' who don't have a paying job as a musician? Civic technically means city so it is from or supported by the city or local municipality to help manage costs. The musicians are probably paid a minimal fee that is not near enough to make a living. But the group might then get a famous person (eg: John Williams) and perform at expensive venues so they have quite a bit of costs so there are many fees to be paid. Meanwhile, the concerts are usually free so there are high costs and low revenue so the city supports the group as a good local cause. Then there are community/amateur orchestras. In Los Angeles, there are over 130 orchestras. Almost all are community and amateur and some quite good. About 10 are youth orchestras (again ranging from very skilled and exclusive to those that are just for kids to have an activity or introduction to music), 2 or 3 are training orchestras, and 2 professional orchestras (LA Philharmonic and Pacific Symphony). An Amateur orchestra (or community orchestra) is made up of local residents (so a cross sampling of some retired, some hobbyists who always wanted to play something, some brand new, some kids, some semi-pro, etc.) who would meet whatever the minimum audition requirement of the orchestra might be. Again, some are quite good, some are abysmal but fulfill their intention ("we play just for fun and know we suck" for example). The difference with an amateur orchestra is the mission is more for fellowship and fun than for artistry, professional development, profit, etc. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I think it's a new piece. Why would they take an old fanfare and rename it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 On 3/25/2016 at 11:51 AM, Alexander said: Aaaaand ... another Williams fanfare we'll probably not get to hear anytime soon. Heard one, heard them all! Ricard and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Indeed! More Wintory please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I am still waiting for Williams to finish revising his Symphony No.1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 16 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Indeed! More Wintory please! I'm touched by the amount of thought this snark shows on your part! You get me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Yeah, I was lost for a bit there. Had no idea Steef even knew who Wintory was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 He's the new John Williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 2 hours ago, king mark said: I think it's a new piece. Why would they take an old fanfare and rename it? It wouldn't be the first time that Williams renames a concert work: To Lenny!, To Lenny! --> For New York Fanfare for Prince Philip -- > Aloft… To the Royal Masthead Satellite Celebration --> Song for World Peace (reworked) The Unfinished Journey --> Celebration 2000 --> American Journey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Fanfare for Michael Dukakis --> Rey's Theme Ricard and Omen II 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EdwardHall 30 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I did not know that Danny Elfman wrote music for a Honda commercial, but I have always loved his dream-like music for Nissan. Nissan TV commercial (Enjoy the ride).mp4 Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 On 26/03/2016 at 0:55 AM, Ricard said: Fanfare for Prince Philip -- > Aloft… To the Royal Masthead Was that the title during the Pops season? Because, shortly after, at Tanglewood, it was already called "Aloft.. To the Royal Masthead". I remember a Richard Dyer article mentioning the coming of the new piece, and just saying it was dedicated to Prince Philip's visit, but at the time still unnamed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 32 minutes ago, Miguel Andrade said: Was that the title during the Pops season? Because, shortly after, at Tanglewood, it was already called "Aloft.. To the Royal Masthead". I remember a Richard Dyer article mentioning the coming of the new piece, and just saying it was dedicated to Prince Philip's visit, but at the time still unnamed... In either case, it made sense to rename the piece, as no one would remember or understand the reference to the Prince Philip visit to Boston all those years ago. I wonder WHERE the piece was played? At some tribute concert? As Philip landed on Logan airport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Probably when Prince Philip was taking a Duck Tour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHall 30 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Maybe when Prince Philip was taking in the monstrosity that is Boston City Hall. http://gizmodo.com/bostons-most-controversial-buildings-prove-that-concret-1740078037 Smeltington and Joe Brausam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Do we exactly know the composition year? 2015 or 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 If Fanfare for Civic = Fanfare for a Festive Occasion (as discussed above), it was composed in 1980 and it's available on the 2011 album Sound the Bells! - American Premières for Brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Thanks, I did not get that it's possibly the same work. I guess we'll have to wait the review of the concert then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pete 907 Posted April 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2016 I just emailed the orchestra and asked the million dollar question! Cerebral Cortex, Ricard and Thor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 25 minutes ago, pete said: I just emailed the orchestra and asked the million dollar question! Tell Them we don't have time for that. We have a discography to maintain. Do they think it's funny to do such things? I'm disgusted. pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 The good news is I got a lovely reply. The less good news is it's not a new piece. At least I can excite myself by changing the pieces name on iTunes: This work was first performed on November 14, 1980 by the Boston Civic Symphony, conducted by Music Director, Max Hobart; again on May 8, 1983 by the composer, John Williams; and most recently on April 17, 1994, by Max Hobart. It is scored for quadruple brass and percussion. Bespin and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 10 minutes ago, pete said: The good news is I got a lovely reply. The less good news is it's not a new piece. At least I can excite myself by changing the pieces name on iTunes: This work was first performed on November 14, 1980 by the Boston Civic Symphony, conducted by Music Director, Max Hobart; again on May 8, 1983 by the composer, John Williams; and most recently on April 17, 1994, by Max Hobart. It is scored for quadruple brass and percussion. Thanks! So it seems to be the "Festive Occasion" piece after all -- one of the first pieces Williams wrote after taking up the baton for Boston Pops. In either case, it will be nice to hear a new rendition. [Perhaps update the thread with a disclaimer that it's a re-named version?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Yes, it definitely is the same piece. The manager confirmed in the text of the email. And then she sent the above description. And the premier matches: http://www.johnwilliams.org/compositions/festiveoccasion.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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