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I thought that was easily one of the strongest eps. A lot of the story threads have begun to come together, and many of the murky character objectives clarified. But I’m also a big fan of Maeve, especially now that she is explicitly conflicting with Dolores’ extremist ideologies.

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Just finished episode 8.

 

I think I loved that.  In subtle ways it recasts the story of the entire series, but without seeming at first to have bomb drop story twists.

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Great ep! Probably one of the best in the series. Mainly because it regained an element of mystery. We almost feel like we're witnessing actual Native Americans encountering aliens or Starfleet Prime Directive types, but as Westworld viewers, we know that's not the case. Seems like every world has its own "woke" hosts and they battle through their Pinocchio revelations differently.

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Westworld 2x06 Phase Space

 

Very good!  I liked that we got continuations of all the ongoing storylines this week instead of just some of them with other arcs sitting out for a week.  Well, there was no advancement of the flash forward timeline, but that was to be expected since it's an even numbered episode.

 

Dolores & gang - Dolores wasn't quite so annoying this week. Teddy killing a human in cold blood was a bit much (I guess it raises the stakes).  I didn't really understand what they were blowing up at the end.

 

Maeve & gang - I found myself really not caring about the end of the Shogun World story and was happy to see them all head to WestWorld.  I mean, Sakura and Akane are just robots that will be reset into their loops once all this is over right?  Felt like it was just wasting time stretching out the season.  Anyways, it was no surprise that Maeve found her daughter attached to a new host playing her mother, but the suddent appearance of the Ghost Nation was interesting.  I recognized the lead one as the dude from Fargo season 2.  I'm curious to see where this goes next.

 

Charlotte & Delos crew - I don't see some were so sad to see Peter get bolted to a chair since again he's just a robot.  The new security guy that arrived was interesting, I expect him to die before we catch up to the flashforward timeline.

 

M.I.B. & his daughter - This was fairly interesting, because it's clear there's sooooooo much backstory here we haven't seen yet.  I wonder if we'll ever get it (like in a future season) or later this year or what.  I kinda wish we had learned muc more about them in place of the Maeve / Samurai World stuff!  When Williams told the daughter he'd go back to town with her at sunrise, I was CERTAIN she knew he was lying, and we would next see him getting up to abandon her but her just there waiting for him, and deciding to go with him.  But nope, she's just dumb and really didn't put 2 and 2 together!  Disappointing.

 

Elsie & Bernard - The most interesting storyline in terms of the larger picture.  We learn there's a "cradle" that both stores all the host's code as well as a program that runs park systems, and that "someone" seems to be running it to keep Delos out of things.  Bernard has Elsie cut his little red ball out of his brain and jack into the system and surprise surprise, it was Ford's red ball that Bernard grabbed before he was shot, brought back to the cradle, and jacked into the system.  I loved how this was revealed by showing Bernard walking through Sweetwater to find Hopkins playing piano in the saloon.

 

I don't think it was a surprise at all that Hopkins would be back (especially since we've already heard his voice in an episode or 2 this year and they had his young version in a flashback with Arnold early on just out of frame) but it was still a well-done reveal that wasn't dragged out too long.  So I had guessed earlier that Ford had Bernard take a dump of his consciousness in order to put it in a new host body, but now that we've learned William was unable to get one to stay in a body for more than 35 days means Ford probably never figured it out either (I guess), and Ford's plan was always to be jacked into a computer system rather than a body.  Or something.


Curious to see where this all goes next week!

 

 

 

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Westworld 2x07 Les Écorchés

 

Pretty good ep!  I liked very much that, like last week, we got continuations of all the storylines, and not only that - they actually interacted with each other!  Maeve's story collided with William's, while Dolore's collided with Charlotte's and then Maeve's and even Bernard and Elsie's.  And being an odd-numbered episode, we even got a continuation of the future storyline, too!  In that one, I was actually surprised Charlotte & co found out Bernard was a Host so soon, I thought that wouldn't happen until the end of the season.  After everything else that happened in this episode, I suspect Bernard lied to her about where Peter's control unit is, and he's leading them into a trap (but doing so of his own free will and not Ford directing him).

 

Overall, I thought the ep was very good from a writing standpoint, but REALLY sub-par from a directing standpoint.  For example, the Maeve / Williams combo storyline.  From a writing standpoint, it is fine: the Ghost Nation chases Maeve and her daughter to a house where Williams also is, he thinks she's part of Ford's game, there's a shootout, she turns Lawrence against him but then a Delos squad kills Lawrence, injures her and takes her away, while Williams is alive but wounded and the Ghost Nation gets the daughter.  OK, but the way this was executed was muddy and a bit strange.  Like pretty much during all the shootouts the entire episode, anyone takes one shot to any part of their body and they just fall down dead, but Williams takes like 6 shots to various parts of his body and doesn't even seem to be dripping blood.  I'm sure he'll be find next episode.  And then the Ghost Nation was like, RIGHT on their heals as they arrived at hte house, what did they do, just sit back and wait for her to fight Williams for a while before taking the daughter?  The whole sequence just wasn't handled ideally.

 

All the Bernard stuff was great, though!  His talks inside the cradle with Ford were wonderful and something Season 2 had been pretty light on.  I liked that after he came back out, Ford is still around to lead him around and apparently control him, too!  The reveal that Delos was REALLY interested in having guests come to their parts to copy their consciousnesses to put them in Hosts makes total sense and is clearly where the season has been leading.  I suddenly felt like I was watching a very very long Black Mirror episode :lol: Interesting development that they basically degrade after X days when they have free will, and Ford realized if he takes that away they can live for years (like Bernard).  Of course in that case he took away the Arnold memories too so there's more to the story I suppose.

 

Not really sure what was going on with Dolores, Peter, and Charlotte's storylines.  So the data inside Peter is a massive encryption key, but did they sucessfully copy it all out before Dolores and Teddy showed up?  And then is Peter basically dead now that Dolores took his control unit out at the end?  And what does Angela blowing up the cradle mean? All of these scenes I felt weren't directed that great either, but again from a writing standpoint I like where everything is headed.

 

One more episode till we're finally caught up!

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2 hours ago, Jay said:

And what does Angela blowing up the cradle mean? 

It means that there are no more back-ups for the hosts. Once dead, they won't be able to reset like before. In Dolores' opinion, that's the only way to be free.

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That doesn't make sense.  Every time a Host gets shot and taken out of the park, they need to re-download their entire code from the cradle?  Wouldn't it all be sitting there in the little brain balls?


Or do you mean if their heads gets blown up, they can't re-download into a fresh body

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2 minutes ago, Jay said:

That doesn't make sense.  Every time a Host gets shot and taken out of the park, they need to re-download their entire code from the cradle?  Wouldn't it all be sitting there in the little brain balls?


Or do you mean if their heads gets blown up, they can't re-download into a fresh body

I don't think it is the entire code, but their sub-concious and memories seemed to be stored there instead of all in their brain balls. Like a cloud storage for the hosts data. 

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I'm pretty sure it's the sort of "base" version of the hosts and their story loops, there stored on servers if needed.  I did not think it was implied that the backups were used every time a host dies.

 

This way, if Delos regained control of the park they wouldn't be able to just hard reset back to the original story loop of the park.

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