Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 24 minutes ago, Incanus said: That feels like a bit of a tall order for Intrada to make true. It's been out of stock forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's been out of stock forever! As an apology for the long out of stock status the new printing comes now with a complimentary rocket pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 That's the least they could do, although I've got a feeling the rocket pack will be in stock before the album... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 This (old) post might be relevant: http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7960 Quote Not to seem flippant but we're well aware of the frustrations with out-of-stock titles. We (happily) have quite a number of releases that sell well. Some have already been recently re-pressed, others are being readied for re-pressing now and still others require updating terms to the licensing agreements. We necessarily have to balance our meager funds between brand new projects and repressings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 I’ve been waiting for Apollo 13 and Peter Proud to come back in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 When did Intrada's The Rocketeer go out of stock? As we know, it's been out of stock for years. When was it last available on Intrada's site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Who Framed Roger Rabbit has been out of stock for ages too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 The Rocketeer has been out for much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Why does the poster and other marketing materials call it "The Rocketeer", but the movie's main title itself just says "Rocketeer"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 So I took the bait, searched the old FSM release thread and stumbled on this: Posted: Sep 29, 2016 - 5:02 AM By: La La Land Records (Member) I finally listened to this release. I hardly ever bitch about a release from another label. I love Intrada like a brother, but I really am disappointed with Disc one. Rocketeer is one of my favorite scores of all time, but disc one feels like all the passion has been sucked out of the recording. It's almost muffled. It's like a stack of sweaters were on top of my speakers. I'm straining to hear something and my ears are 18 inches from the speakers. What gives? I want to cry right now. MV Anyway, it seems it went out of stock twice, the second time between August 2017 and June 2018, and has not been repressed since then. Perhaps they are going to revisit the mix since there was quite a bit of complaining about the complete score. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Thanks for this useful info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 The mix is definitely weird on Intrada's release. The album sounds better. One of the most memorable parts of the score where he runs up the stairs and takes off sounds like it's missing instruments. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Poor dynamic range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Reading MV's (and others) comments has cured me from wanting this. I'm happy with the OST. All I need now is Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I believe in that same thread mentioned above, someone from Intrada chimed in and gave an explanation. But yeah the actual score presentation sounds much quieter than the album mix. Here are the discussion threads addressing the issue. https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=12&threadID=115737&archive=0 http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7129&hilit=The+rocketeer&start=15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staccato 6 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Any new news about back in stock Rocketeer album on Intrada web store? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 It probably won't come back in stock, since the expanded score had some serious mixing issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 It did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Smeltington said: It did? Quote Posted: Sep 29, 2016 - 5:02 AM By: La La Land Records (Member) I finally listened to this release. I hardly ever bitch about a release from another label. I love Intrada like a brother, but I really am disappointed with Disc one. Rocketeer is one of my favorite scores of all time, but disc one feels like all the passion has been sucked out of the recording. It's almost muffled. It's like a stack of sweaters were on top of my speakers. I'm straining to hear something and my ears are 18 inches from the speakers. What gives? I want to cry right now. MV https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=11&threadID=115737&archive=0 Quote Roger Feigelson Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:38 am Question for you guys -- I've gotten a few questions about the sound difference between the complete program and the original CD program. What these guys are noticing is that the complete program is presented with the natural dynamic range of the original recording. The CD program is compressed, meaning the differential between the quietest parts and the loudest parts has been reduced. It provides a thicker sound, but is a bit of an artificial range. This compression seems to be the dominant choice for mastering these days, while Intrada has been religious about not tampering with the natural range. But...if the preference is for the sound of this compression, there's no reason we couldn't adopt that going forward. Just curious about your all feelings on this. Ironically sound had to be compressed for LPs because the physical material of vinyl wouldn't allow for a wide dynamic range. It was one of the original selling points of the CD medium that you could have a full dynamic range without the need for compression. Kind of interesting that people seem to prefer the compressed sound! Or perhaps they just don't appreciate the natural acoustic. Thoughts? http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=76002#p76002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Well sheeeeeit. I really want this score. Should I go for the OST?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Smeltington said: It did? The good news is that I have a spare copy of the OST that you may have for a gazillion dollars. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I kinda feel like I can get it cheaper somewhere else. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 The Intrada release sounds fine to me, and I prefer the complete score presentation over the OST presentation Demondm810 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I have no complaints about the Intrada release either, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 It's the kind of thing where if I was super intimately familiar with and obsessed with the score, like I am with, say, E.T., I'd probably have the same complaints. But for me, it's just a really good James Horner score I put on sometimes. I was glad I did those iso score videos (which I used the Intrada for), but I'm still just "a fan" of the score and not "an obsessive fan." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 News from Roger Quote There will be a new pressing. In fact it's been remastered to match Shawn Murphy's original mastering from the Hollywood CD many people became married to. https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=140055&forumID=1&archive=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Horner's dynamic range returns. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 So it’s just the OST program on disc 2 that will differ from the first printing of the Intrada release, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 Huh? He's saying the main program is being remastered, not the OST program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,108 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Im buying this again only for the main program. I already have the original pressing of the OST which does sound amazing compared to this reissue. And only if they could remove the 2 jazz numbers from disc 1 and put them as extras on disc 2. (But I know they wont) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 But the jazz numbers are great and an integral part of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: Horner's dynamic range returns. Is that a good thing though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Is that a good thing though? Of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Now the first version of the expansion will become a sought-after collectible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Or a much-reviled anomaly A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Do we like Shawn Murphy's original mastering from the Hollywood CD? Is this good news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Smeltington said: Do we like Shawn Murphy's original mastering from the Hollywood CD? Is this good news? It's never bothered me, but then the samples from the film tracks also sound great to my ears *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 15 hours ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: Horner's dynamic range returns. From I understand, this might have less dynamic range now. Quote "I've gotten a few questions about the sound difference between the complete program and the original CD program. What these guys are noticing is that the complete program is presented with the natural dynamic range of the original recording. The CD program is compressed, meaning the differential between the quietest parts and the loudest parts has been reduced. It provides a thicker sound, but is a bit of an artificial range. This compression seems to be the dominant choice for mastering these days, while Intrada has been religious about not tampering with the natural range. But...if the preference is for the sound of this compression, there's no reason we couldn't adopt that going forward. Just curious about your all feelings on this. Ironically sound had to be compressed for LPs because the physical material of vinyl wouldn't allow for a wide dynamic range. It was one of the original selling points of the CD medium that you could have a full dynamic range without the need for compression. Kind of interesting that people seem to prefer the compressed sound! Or perhaps they just don't appreciate the natural acoustic. Thoughts?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 It sounded better before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 So who's doing the new mastering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said: So who's doing the new mastering? Get used to disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 7 hours ago, The River (Fal) said: Get used to disappointment. Honestly, I'm very well adjusted to it at this point. I'm still holding out hope that they do what Jay suggests and drop the songs from Disc 1 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 Bad news about that Quote Quote Would you consider making Horner's glorious score play uninterrupted by the pop songs on the reissue? Unfortunately no. The album is already remastered. Frankly this becomes a chasing our tail exercise because people have different visions on how to produce something, making it impossible to please everyone. In this case we stuck with how Horner wanted the presentation, which Doug also likes and his vote does count! I am hoping people can find it in their heart to respect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Horner's album is great. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 So we're getting essentially a new remaster of this that goes back to the original Shawn Murphy mix: Quote 6/20/2020 Coming in for next week, one of my personal favorites: The Young Lions. Yes, the 1958 Hugo Friedhofer masterpiece. All of it. What a classic this one is! And considering how long we’ve been out-of-stock on The Rocketeer, it feels like a new release. Since this “back-in-stock” title is in fact a very modest “re-master”, maybe in one manner it is new. After re-licensing additional pressings with Disney, and with input from passionate fans of this wildly popular Jame Horner gem, we opted to retain the 1991 levels and EQ decisions as per original scoring mixer Shawn Murphy. Same 2-CD contents, new-ish 2-CD sound. Both this Intrada action-packed best-seller and Friedhofer’s celebrated, Academy Award-nominated score will be available this Tuesday, June 23. Artwork, audio samples and contents will be posted here Monday eve prior. Stay safe! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gps 8 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Sorry, I am still a bit confused. So the 2016 release hast the complete score part (aka "complete program") uncompressed and the OST part (aka "CD program") compressed? And the 2020 hast the OST part also uncompressed - I hope I did get thir correct? That would mean if I already have the original 1991 OST plus the 2016 SE there is hardly any point in getting the 2020 release? If I am interested in uncompressed music that is... Thanks for any information or clarification! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 No, the 2020 re-release will have the score as dynamically compressed as the OST, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gps 8 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 That's not what is said in the Roger Feigelson quote from above. He said: "What these guys are noticing is that the complete program is presented with the natural dynamic range of the original recording. The CD program is compressed...", refering to the 2016 release, if I got things right. And the 2020 release is said to go back to 1991 Levels and EQ settings, which should be uncompressed...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 As per the discussion on this above page the new mix will be the more compressed one of the original OST. Quote The CD program is compressed, meaning the differential between the quietest parts and the loudest parts has been reduced. It provides a thicker sound, but is a bit of an artificial range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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