Incanus 5,714 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 33 minutes ago, Fennel Ka said: I believe the connection is The history of the Ring being Narrated by Galadriel/whoever. Yes it would certainly seem so, if the prologue retained the same general outline as in the finished cut. Instead of the History of the Ring theme, the early prologue has this singular choral melody accompanied by the Ring Verse lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,714 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: The more important question is: why did Shore bother replacing the first minute of the prologue with that latter part on the OST track, when they are both very similar? Why not just leave it as it is? The unfathomable mysteries of soundtrack album assembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Because of the cello line obviously, it sounds a little more alive with it. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Dat cello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,714 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 15 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: Dat cello The world is changed because of it. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air . Bilbo and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I agree with @Faleel, the reason Shore edited the OST version that way is surely because the performance with the cello line backing is a little more lively than the version that opens the cue proper. The more I listen to the RA version, the more it kinds annoys me that the entire first minute+ of the cue plays again almost verbatim a couple minutes later. I actually enjoy the beauty of the OST edit now, it covers all the important material (minus the actual battle footage) nicely. To that end, I realize an alternate edit you can make that restores that stuff but doesn't include the repeated material (and therefore leaves out the little bits that lead into and out of the repeat), you can do this: OST 0:00-1:27 TRA 1:27-2:44OST 1:27-end Sounds pretty good! Now we REALLY need to hear the "Gondorian" passage chopped out at 1:54! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,340 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Well, its not the end of the world [and I absolutely would have preferred the track on the disc to be COMPLETELY unedited), but I like my idea of trying a custom edit without the repeat. Gonna work on that in a bit actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 The opening cello line from The Prophecy is Top 5 favourite LotR moments. It is also remarkable that this kind of ancient sounding and flowing writing does not appear anywhere else in the films, the only thing that is close to it, purposefully I assume, is Sammath Naur actually. Kühni 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Not even in Gandalf the White? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gkgyver 1,645 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Fennel Ka said: Not even in Gandalf the White? No. That's not as long and nicely laid out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I've heard multiple people now describe the opening of The Prophecy as "ancient sounding"... Can anyone describe in more detail what you mean? What aspects of the passage create this feeling? Any examples of other music with this feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 You may as well ask for us to explain the meaning of life and the secrets of the universe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 7 hours ago, Fennel Ka said: You may as well ask for us to explain the meaning of life and the secrets of the universe 42. Next question! Evanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 . Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 No need to be sorry, that is all well put! And how cool that a Doug Adams piece about the score from before he was ever hired to work on them still exists online! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Yes it would very much seem like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Oh another difference besides the Cello line, is that in the first appearance the psuedo History of the Ring theme is played by Horns (representing Men?) while in the second appearance it is played by Cor Anglais (Representing Gollum?. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kühni 485 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 . Chen G. and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Its a great, great piece of music. Doesn't sound a bit like Parsifal, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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