Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Thread is self-explanatory. I nominate the whirly tube / AKA the corrugaphone. Essentially it's a corrugated plastic tube that can be spun over head, with different sizes corresponding to different fundamental pitches. If I had to describe it, I'd compare it to an eerie wind or a bunch of Arab women ululating across a valley. Hard pressed to find any examples in the current canon. 02:00 in The Letter from Capricorn One might be one, but it could also be water chimes (used elsewhere in the score), the phased ARP Solina from earlier in the cue or a vibratone (another neglected instrument). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Vuvuzela! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 This is the perfect instrument for use in movie trailer music Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Bbbhhhrrraaaaaaahhhmmmm! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I don't know enough film music to be able to answer truthfully but I fear that woodwind in general are becoming neglected these days. 19 minutes ago, Sharkus Malarkus said: I nominate the whirly tube / AKA the corrugaphone. Isn't that the instrument you hear at the beginning of The Temple of Doom? Sounds a bit like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I'm sure we've discussed this before (briefly) and you brought the recorder up, @Sharkus Malarkus. Here you go: On 7-8-2015 at 11:54 PM, Sharkus Malarkus said: Nice to see a contrabass flute turn up in a film score. Wish they were written for more often. Same goes for the recorder family, which has unfortunately been misaligned as children's instruments (maybe our collective memory of out-of-tune school ensembles?). Edit: I think it's just a contrabass clarinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 15, 2016 Author Share Posted August 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Jilal said: I'm sure we've discussed this before and you brought the recorder up, @Sharkus Malarkus. Shhh. Don't be a Jay. Edit: Ah, glad to see it wasn't an entire thread (again) 4 minutes ago, loert said: I don't know enough film music to be able to answer truthfully but I fear that woodwind in general are becoming neglected these days. Isn't that the instrument you hear at the beginning of The Temple of Doom? Sounds a bit like it. I thought so too, but in the score it's a synth. Could be a sample? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Sharkus Malarkus said: I thought so too, but in the score it's a synth. Could be a sample? I couldn't find it in the score? I've always assumed R7 Pt1 starts with the big "clang" you hear in the track at 0:07 (but with altered instrumentation). Where in the score are you looking at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Woodwinds. I can never get enough woodwinds. And synths, of course (especially retro synths), but that's a given. Brónach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 38 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Bbbhhhrrraaaaaaahhhmmmm! One of the greatest things the Internet has ever given us. I bet they played this video on a loop at Guantanamo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Euphonium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Bring back vibraphones, harp harmonics, bass flutes, bass clarinets, natural horns, and baroque construction strings. A24 and Brónach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Woodwinds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 15, 2016 Author Share Posted August 15, 2016 3 hours ago, loert said: I couldn't find it in the score? I've always assumed R7 Pt1 starts with the big "clang" you hear in the track at 0:07 (but with altered instrumentation). Where in the score are you looking at? Just checked--must have been confusing it with another cue. It definitely could be corrugaphones--Shelley Manne and Emil Richards are mentioned in the sketch for percussion sweetener, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had some in their collections. 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: One of the greatest things the Internet has ever given us. I bet they played this video on a loop at Guantanamo. You know what would be perfect for that? The tromboon. karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 That might be what they actually use and then out it through digital filters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 15, 2016 Author Share Posted August 15, 2016 Knowing Zack Hemsey I doubt it, but it might've been what they used for the alien klaxons in WOTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post karelm 2,913 Posted August 15, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Disco Stu said: One of the greatest things the Internet has ever given us. I bet they played this video on a loop at Guantanamo. I liked it better when John Barry did it in the 1970's: 23 minutes ago, Sharkus Malarkus said: Just checked--must have been confusing it with another cue. It definitely could be corrugaphones--Shelley Manne and Emil Richards are mentioned in the sketch for percussion sweetener, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had some in their collections. You know what would be perfect for that? The tromboon. Interestly, I put a contrabassoon double reed in my bass trombone expecting it to shake the earth to its core. To my surprise, the instrument became a piccolo allowing me to play into the flute register. Jilal, Disco Stu, Sharkissimo and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Not Mr. Big said: Euphonium. Zimmer had 4 on MOS , along with 8 horns (doubling on tuben), 2 bass trombone and 4 contrabass (CC) tubas. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 That's a tasty brass section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Woodwinds. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Electric guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jay said: Electric guitar I do like that AOTC moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 2 hours ago, TheWhiteRider said: Bring back vibraphones, harp harmonics, bass flutes, bass clarinets, natural horns, and baroque construction strings. Baroque reeds and flutes as well, and lutes and theorbos. Jilal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 23 minutes ago, Will said: I do like that AOTC moment! It can be used in so many more ways than that style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Hans uses them very often in textural ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Electric Guitar is used quite a bit in film music. Oboe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, TheWhiteRider said: Hans uses them very often in textural ways. As does Newman with George Doering, usually with things to mask the attack and prolong the note, like ebows, volume and sustain pedals. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 9 hours ago, loert said: I don't know enough film music to be able to answer truthfully but I fear that woodwind in general are becoming neglected these days. Isn't that the instrument you hear at the beginning of The Temple of Doom? Sounds a bit like it. Isn't it used at the beginning of "Star Trek II"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Slide whistle, kazoo and devil chaser! 5 string kantele and concert kantele, nyckelharpa, hardanger violin and the whole taiko drum family, not just the big booming ones every composer is forced to use these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Jingling Johnny! Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: Jingling Johnny! Is that some kind of euphemism for something lewd or a real instrument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 You vikings really are savages, arent you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I once attended a winds concert that featured a jingling Johnny. It was the worst instrument I'd ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 John Philip Sousa was quite fond of it apparently. Haydn and Berlioz have written for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I like sackbuts and I cannot lie Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I would love to hear more writing for woodwinds in lower registers. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 3 hours ago, Stefancos said: You vikings really are savages, arent you! Never in our most barbarous dreams did we invent such a racket maker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 30 minutes ago, crocodile said: I would love to hear more writing for woodwinds in lower registers. I very much enjoy a well written part for flute in the low register. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 17 hours ago, Thor said: Woodwinds. I can never get enough woodwinds. And synths, of course (especially retro synths), but that's a given. Can remember a certain infamous composer asking where all the "voodvinds" had gone from film music having abandoned them himself long before... With his minions following suit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 8 hours ago, Richard said: Isn't it used at the beginning of "Star Trek II"? You're right! I thought it was just the Jupiter 8 (electronic ocarinas), but I checked and it's doubled by two plastic pipes! Like a lot of thins James must've have got this from visiting Jerry's sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Off-topic, but did you know that Horner mortgaged his estate in order to finance the recording of one of his very first (B-film) scores with the LSO? It turned out to be the perfect set of "demos" to send out to various directors in Hollywood, eventually leading him to score Star Trek II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Crumhorns, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 19 minutes ago, Jilal said: Off-topic, but did you know that Horner mortgaged his estate in order to finance the recording of one of his very first (B-film) scores with the LSO? It turned out to be the perfect set of "demos" to send out to various directors in Hollywood, eventually leading him to score Star Trek II. Which score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 The first one was 'Brainstorm'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 The fujara, a Slovakian overtone flute, is woefully neglected. Maurice Jarre included it in Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome and Zimmer wrote for it memorably in Gladiator, but aside from that I can't recall any other appearances. I also believe it's part of the evolving drone that accompanies Commodus's theme on the soprano recorders. Almost imperceivable. It's slowly scaling the overtone series on D, overlaid with Lisa Gerard bowing her hammered dulcimer and hammering away on her yangqin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Not necessarily an instrument, but low writing for bass clarinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drawgoon 100 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I would love to hear more tin whistle in scores. Ocarina too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 What about slide whistle? Far too little slide whistle since the glory days of Carl Stalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 The army of kazoos in the Chicken Run score gives me the biggest smile, so I'd love to hear more kazoos in comedy scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 12 hours ago, Disco Stu said: What about slide whistle? Far too little slide whistle since the glory days of Carl Stalling. Jerry loved his bass slide whistle. If anyone wants one. http://www.olympicdrums.com/slide-whistle-bass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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