Will 2,215 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Also there's the photo at the top of this thread that shows JKMS proofing a Williams Book Thief sketch. So at the very least apparently that sketch went directly to JKMS in condensed form, and they had to "expand" it: 3 minutes ago, karelm said: There is no mystery here. JW is an a list composer and uses A list team. They are not amateurs at what the do. They know how to take JW's sketches and translate it to a full score and exactly what he wants. He is very clear in his intentions. Well, yes, I suppose it doesn't really matter whether it's Williams "expanding" the sketches, or JKMS, or an orchestrator... They're all good at it, plus it's basically a copyist job as Pope has said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 23, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2016 Exactly. I don't think that at any point in Williams' career, Pope or any other orchestrator would actually have truly been necessary. Skilled copyists can extract clear, complete parts from a "short score" format as Williams composes in as readily as from a previously prepared conductor's score. And you can conduct from such a condensed score as well, although maybe the JKMS people combine the parts into an engraved conductor's score once everything else is done? It's probably as easy as clicking a button to do that, though I shy away from notation software and don't know for sure. Will, karelm and TownerFan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Okay, @TheWhiteRider you've basically answered my question. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 3 hours ago, karelm said: By the way, I think "6 horns, 2 tubas play with horns" means tubas are "col horns" so this is probably a low ominous passage where the 2 tubas are playing along "with horns" in unison. I don't think JW has ever used a wagner tuba nor cimbasso. I haven't encountered any other examples but Williams has the 6 horns double on Wagner tubas for this short passage in ESB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,913 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 11 hours ago, Sharkus Malarkus said: I haven't encountered any other examples but Williams has the 6 horns double on Wagner tubas for this short passage in ESB. Good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Heartwood also sounds, to me, like there could be tubens in the brass, or else it's just some crafty and particularly lush doublings in the traditional section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 27, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2016 Wasn't sure where to post this so I just chose the most recent Potter-related thread in the John Williams section. Here's a nice 5-6 minute discussion of Williams' Harry Potter music with David Arnold participating in the discussion! http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07vw5mn The part about Potter starts at about 25:00 in. Smeltington, Arpy and Loert 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelly 261 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 A little weird that they'd have one composer try to dissect the composition of another. But Arnold got it spot-on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Really interesting, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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