Popular Post Bryant Burnette 654 Posted December 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2016 I work at a theatre, and we're showing the movie on seven screens, so I'm constantly walking past one of them. They're frequently blaring the score -- and I have to say, the more I hear it, the more positive I am about it. Pieter Boelen, DarthDementous, Arpy and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 30 minutes ago, Lockdown said: I just came back from my second viewing of the film, and there was a few cues that remain unreleased that are really cool, in my opinion. It seems we're missing a number of cues from the first half of the film, and even near the ending as well. I hope to see it again at some point, although I'm quite busy now. Perhaps around New Year's. The only important unreleased cue I can remember is the one where we first see Yavin 4. It has the Force theme and rebel fanfare IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 well the first act doesnt miss a lot of music I'd call desirable aside from the aforementioned Yavin arrival and the almost completely unheard on the OST Jedhah theme also going by slate numbers there should be a lot more missing music between Jedhah Arrival, Hearts of Kyber and and Jedhah City Ambush but I only counted like two the second act is nearly complete aside from small scenes before and after they were at Eadu the third act misses some nice action material, Chirrut's guerilla warfaring, the rebels destroying the AT-CTs, the hammerhead pushing the stardestroyer but thats only 3 tracks, the FYCs filled a lot of gaps here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 11 hours ago, publicist said: like a square peg in a round hole If the ground is soft in the morning the peg will still go in quite easily, and will even make the round hole fit around it, providing a sturdy enough support for the scene, I mean tent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2016 Funny to see a lot of people originally saying the score was a disappointment slowly starting to like it more and more. Told you, guys! Tiburon, leeallen01, RuBen_Kenobi and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,620 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Happens a lot for me. Usually when listening at midnight when I can hear every detail. Only listened to the odd track from this so far - sounded fairly average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Remember what happened with Pan, richuk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 The beginning of this piece occurs many times throughout the score. It is Jyn's theme yes? Just in a more tentative way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 47 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Funny to see a lot of people originally saying the score was a disappointment slowly starting to like it more and more. Yeah. Standards have slipped to new lows. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I like Your Father Would Be Proud but this is still disappointing to me given the source material. On 18/12/2016 at 10:52 PM, BloodBoal said: It was one of those awful moments, listening to the OST for the first time only to realize that this cue had not been included. Happened to me recently with a statement of Newt's action theme in Fantastic Beasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Loving the Force theme and Luke's theme statements at 1:03 - 1:13. Does anyone remember what scene that it appears in? Was it when the rebel fleet arrived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 7 minutes ago, publicist said: Yeah. Standards have slipped to new lows. Standards have always been low. We were just lucky to have music that was above our standards. Pieter Boelen and BLUMENKOHL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Standards have always been low. We were just lucky to have music that was above our standards. Finally, he speaks sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 29 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Standards have always been low. We were just lucky to have music that was above our standards. I tried the roundabout way to spare the old timers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuBen_Kenobi 19 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 1 hour ago, leeallen01 said: Loving the Force theme and Luke's theme statements at 1:03 - 1:13. Does anyone remember what scene that it appears in? Was it when the rebel fleet arrived? No is when the Rebel fleet is preparing to fly in Yavin 4. And Luke´s theme is used for 3PO and R2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyO 62 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 So if I was to assemble an end credits edit for my album (since Hope really needs to go into the end titles), what materials would I use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, RuBen_Kenobi said: No is when the Rebel fleet is preparing to fly in Yavin 4. And Luke´s theme is used for 3PO and R2. Ah of course. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 12 minutes ago, MattyO said: So if I was to assemble an end credits edit for my album (since Hope really needs to go into the end titles), what materials would I use? It's just the opening of the ANH end credits, then the FYC track, then the end of the ANH end credits, followed by the final chord in the Guardians of the Whils suite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyO 62 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Excellent, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuberSepp 6 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 2 hours ago, leeallen01 said: The beginning of this piece occurs many times throughout the score. It is Jyn's theme yes? Just in a more tentative way. This rather sounds like a quotation of the "Dies Irae" motif, which Williams also used often in his scores (Ep. 2-4,7, Home Alone, etc.) Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I'm on my first listen of this score. I have a playlist combining the OST and the FYC running. I'm rather enjoying it for the most part. It's a decent Giacchino score. Unfortunately, it lacks the strong themes Williams writes and misses the melodic action set pieces the old Star Wars scores used to have. There's also an uncanny way in which the other Star Wars scores manage to sound different for each planet. Rogue One has none of that and sounds the same throughout. At some points, I might as well be listening to Star Trek into Darkness. It's a decent score, but unfortunately, it has the shadow of some of the finest blockbuster film scores in history looming over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown 238 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I think the score to Rogue One was a real wake up call to those who were speaking badly of 'The Force Awakens' score. aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Holy shite people are miserable. I wish I lived in the 70's, when no one had any public platform to constantly bitch about everything. If only humans would talk to each other these days, so I could discuss things without the poisonous faceless entity that people become on the internet. DarthDementous and Alan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I'll pass on that idea, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 7 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: Holy shite people are miserable. I wish I lived in the 70's, when no one had any public platform to constantly bitch about everything. If only humans would talk to each other these days, so I could discuss things without the poisonous faceless entity that people become on the internet. Good god, man. You need to take a long vacation with a large bag of weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 19 minutes ago, Prerecorded Briefing said: Good god, man. You need to take a long vacation with a large bag of weed. Just want to discuss things without people saying everything is terrible and we're all going to die. mstrox and Alan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,304 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Is that what people are saying? I thought people were justifying why they liked or didn't like the film/score. DarthDementous and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 35 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: Holy shite people are miserable. I wish I lived in the 70's, when no one had any public platform to constantly bitch about everything. If only humans would talk to each other these days, so I could discuss things without the poisonous faceless entity that people become on the internet. Aww, some people disagree with your opinion and you're all upset about it again, bless. We're such a tortured, gloomy crowd here, it must be incredibly difficult for you. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Some are, but when I, or anyone mentions a legitimate opinion, it is met with comments about how awful said thing is, instead of why they believe that. And it kills any conversation that is ongoing and turns it into a bitch-fest for 3 pages, until someone brings up another legitimate opinion. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2016 Taikomochi, Bilbo, Manakin Skywalker and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,304 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 He is lurking among is, that foul fiend! He is trying to destroy JWFan from the inside. And from its ashes, he shall build MGFan for his reign of terror to come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Prerecorded Briefing said: Good god, man. You need to take a long vacation with a large bag of weed. Count me in for some of that action, bro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damien F 1,739 Posted December 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2016 7 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Funny to see a lot of people originally saying the score was a disappointment slowly starting to like it more and more. Told you, guys! My initial opinion has remained. A somewhat disappointing yet solid 3 star score with some lackluster themes but a number of good highlights. Bilbo, mrbellamy and Indianagirl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Most here will cheer when it wins the Oscar for best score in a month or two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlytoot 97 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Not sure if you guys saw this; Giacchino's alt-list of punny track titles. toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,043 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I'll say it before and I'll say it again, I'm pretty sure Jyn's theme is Dies Irae with some minor adjustments, so that tentative part at the beginning of 'Rebellions are Built On Hope' is almost certainly Jyn's theme especially considering the scene it accompanies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlytoot 97 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Does anyone think we will get a deluxe/expanded release of this score at some point? I'm hoping so; there seems to be quite a lot of music that was left off the album. In fact, some of my favorite music I noticed in the theater, is not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 4 hours ago, curlytoot said: Not sure if you guys saw this; Giacchino's alt-list of punny track titles. I did On 12/15/2016 at 6:02 PM, Jay said: Wow, that FSM poster wasn't joking, there actually is a list of pun titles in the booklet! Wow! And On 12/16/2016 at 4:18 PM, Jay said: And here's the spreadsheet! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P1YtETbm10jj2PUJ_4l9bBdVuVVtm8u3QP4ea3Y8CG8/pubhtml I welcome all corrections! 28 minutes ago, curlytoot said: Does anyone think we will get a deluxe/expanded release of this score at some point? I'm hoping so; there seems to be quite a lot of music that was left off the album. For some reason, I think it is more possible than not. But there's been no 2 disc version of TFA yet, so that's not a good sign. 28 minutes ago, curlytoot said: In fact, some of my favorite music I noticed in the theater, is not there. Are the bits you're thinking of on the FYC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Here's a take on what the "Hope and Finale" piece might sound like. I used the ANH end title as well as the "Hope" cue and the three complete suites from the OST (yes, I know in the film the suites are cut down). I'm a very, very amateur editor so I apologize for any issues. Some of the transitions are quite jarring. This actually took me hours to do, since I am just starting out with editing! Lots of... But here it is! https://www.dropbox.com/s/uwwz2wiak3v6qoi/Hope and Finale.flac?dl=0 ----------------- Yes!! New SW Oxygen: http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/a/3/a/a3a1eb489e46ce97/RFR_SWOxygen038.mp3?c_id=13668680&expiration=1482378568&hwt=31a1be0af2f0981d81b731fb002d2611 Looking forward to their take. I'm thinking it will take a more positive view than most here. We'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,854 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Do we know yet if the end title for Rogue One was a new recording, or just reused from TFA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 TFA's end titles didn't feature the end part of the End credits from ANH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,839 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I'm listening to the SW Oxygen right now. They are positive on the score which is about what I expect. It's a decent score but I'm not as big a fan of Gia as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 http://collider.com/rogue-one-original-ending/#gareth-edwards It's definitely arguable that Giacchino inadvertently undermined some sense of dramatic resonance in the characters with his overbearing score in some key places during the film. I wonder why he wasn't reigned in a lot in post? Probably the rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leeallen01 2,133 Posted December 22, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2016 7 hours ago, Will said: Yes!! New SW Oxygen: http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/a/3/a/a3a1eb489e46ce97/RFR_SWOxygen038.mp3?c_id=13668680&expiration=1482378568&hwt=31a1be0af2f0981d81b731fb002d2611 Looking forward to their take. I'm thinking it will take a more positive view than most here. We'll see... Very positive and rightly so. Fantastic analysis. I didn't notice that Giacchino used the same woodwind statements as Williams did for when they talk about the messages. He really is the ultimate Williams fan, and insanely knowledgeable on every single note of Williams original trilogy. I love shows like that, that go into meaningful detail, like how Giacchino went back into A New Hope's score to backwards engineer Jyn's theme, and to sprinkle the beginnings of Luke's Theme. Really interesting. Will, Arpy and DarthDementous 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Krennic's Theme is infectious (in a good way). I'm beginning to like the new Imperial March more than I did initially. There's lot's of Star Trek Beyond and Jurassic World throwbacks in this score which is probably a sign of how tight the schedule was. After listening to the deluxe set of Star Trek Beyond I get the feeling Giacchino had more fun, with more time to make something that was his own, rather than use Williams' mouthwash over it. Obviously given more time and less pressure to make it conform to Williams' sound, I think it would be something that can stand on it's own two feet. leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 10 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: He really is the ultimate Williams fan No. Miguel Andrade is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,839 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Even as I wrap up my time listening to the Rogue One OST, I don't find the music enjoyable enough for me to listen to as I do other scores, I keep reminding myself not to expect from this score the complete mastery of the orchestra that JW routinely displays in his own scores. I think to start with that expectation does a disservice to the music of Rogue One, much of which is effective and appropriate for the film. I remember a short podcast segment somewhere that broke down all the different voicings in Harry's Wondrous World. The orchestration was incredibly complex. There is just so many parts playing behind the main melody, all contributing to a musical tapestry and enhanced the emotion and communication of the piece. JW's music has a complexity and nuance that is pretty much unmatched by other composers who write for orchestra. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I love how you can hum the Imperial March along with the choir. Great nod of using the Imperial March's shape and sound, but without obviously using it. The 3 big repeating notes that the choir sings, are the first 3 repeating notes of the March. Arpy and DarthDementous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 6 hours ago, Manikin Skywalker said: Do we know yet if the end title for Rogue One was a new recording, or just reused from TFA? New recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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