Jay 37,358 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Just now, Luke Skywalker said: with the late recording of this score, it's a given that the physical CD will be on sale several days or weeks after the films release. it happened with TFA and it wasnt so late recorded (irrc) I bet you're right Just now, Luke Skywalker said: Will a digital release be late on time too? Not a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 7 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: with the late recording of this score, it's a given that the physical CD will be on sale several days or weeks after the film's release. it happened with TFA and it wasnt so late recorded (irrc) didnt, it? Will a digital release be late too? I hope the music get so many excellent reviews that they release the entire thing The premiere for TFA was two days before the release of the album if I remember correctly so it wasn't that much earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,358 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 8 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: I hope the music get so many excellent reviews that they release the entire thing If we still don't have an expanded TFA set, we won't be getting an expanded Rogue One set any time soon either. Possibly the FYC could have extra music, though, who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 None of Disney's FYCs had additional material this year. I would not expect Rogue One to have additional material on its FYC either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,358 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Giachcino FYCs usually don't. But TFA's did, so there's that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 On 1. November 2016 at 4:50 PM, Incanus said: Fingers crossed for a semi-hummable theme! And lots of quotes of the Imperial March! Giacchino always creates very hummable themes. It's the normal underscore where he fails regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quintus 5,399 Posted November 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2016 No he creates hummable phrases but fails to incorporate them into more substantial themes. Which is why his more incidental underscore suffers, since it is anchored to nothing sufficiently entrenched and foundational. KK, Marcus and Not Mr. Big 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Quintus, that's a bit of a revelation to me. As a self-confessed Giacchino fan, I hadn't really noticed that before but on reflection would have to agree. Most of his themes are very 'phrase-built'. The best exception I can think of is Parting Words (the Raft/Rescue theme) from Lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 As an all encompassing musical idea, I think his UP score stands as the most successful thing he's done for a film. The simplistic yet rather versatile 'companionship' theme was strong enough to carry the entire score all on its own in that instance. There, Giacchino actually managed to achieve a sense of narrative pathos for once (in a film). But I do think he just got lucky on that occasion, unfortunately. Cerebral Cortex and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Up is indeed a fine score. Nothing to complicated, but it didn't need to be. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Tomorrowland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 26 minutes ago, Quintus said: As an all encompassing musical idea, I think his UP score stands as the most successful thing he's done for a film. The simplistic yet rather versatile 'companionship' theme was strong enough to carry the entire score all on its own in that instance. There, Giacchino actually managed to achieve a sense of narrative pathos for once (in a film). But I do think he just got lucky on that occasion, unfortunately. Why attribute it to luck? Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Chance, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 I suppose "skill" would be too much of a reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 If it were skill then surely he would apply it more often and be more consistently impressive an artist as a consequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 Perhaps. Maybe it's more lucky that he got an opportunity with Up where he wasn't required to reach beyond his particular skill set. He both recognized what the film needed and could accomplish it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 John Williams and other artists, creatives, are always quick to admit how incredibly lucky they have been when speaking about their successes. But are you saying Giacchino found in UP his sweet spot? Or his comfort zone? His creative 'ceiling', even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 Sure, I'm not saying luck isn't part of it. I just think it's a little unfair to imply the Up theme and whatever success it has in the film was luck without craft. But sorry if I misread that. As for Gia's creative ceiling, well, that could be. I don't know. I can definitely say the level that he operates with Pixar and the more quiet gravitas of Lost is about where I've enjoyed him most. Bigger than that, he does always feel a bit like a kid in the deep end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Oh I'm not denying his grasp of scoring craft when writing UP (and The Incredibles, too, actually), but the stars were also aligned on the occasion that George Lucas wrote and directed Star Wars. There was a lot of good fortune , some skill and perfect timing involved there, I believe. But ultimately, it was a one-off. Star Wars is not representative of Lucas' skill as a film director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Luck. Working with a man called JJ Abrams on a TV show called Alias, for instance, and personality. Gia must be a very nice and congenial person and a good collaborator. Herrmann was an utterly brilliant composer, but not a very pleasant man to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 34 minutes ago, Quintus said: John Williams and other artists, creatives, are always quick to admit how incredibly lucky they have been when speaking about their successes. But are you saying Giacchino found in UP his sweet spot? Or his comfort zone? His creative 'ceiling', even. I would say his skill set suits these Pixar films very well. Ratatouille also ranks among his finer scores. But I don't really think he has the chops to quite pull off all these bigger budget motion pictures he's scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Gia is probably a fine match for Marvel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 I still can't picture Dr. strange working well in film though. It's often too kitschy to take seriously. All that screaming choir... But I'm sure it fits fine enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Well I'm not expecting any great scores coming from these Marvel films at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 8 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Gia is probably a fine match for Marvel. Which would been perfectly fine actually. There's nowt wrong with that degree of capability at all. It's only when idiots! start to compare that skill level directly with someone of John Williams' calibre that it becomes problematic, that it raises the ire of people like me. And when they go as far as to call Giacchino "the next...", well, it's just insulting. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Going to be some nuisance renaming all the tracks when I rip it to iTunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I haven't personally seen anyone on this board, even great Giacchino fans, who make that comparison. But yeah idiots who don't know anything about film music like to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2016 crumbs, Not Mr. Big, Bilbo and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 8 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I haven't personally seen anyone on this board, even great Giacchino fans, who make that comparison. I've seen it implied here plenty of times over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, BloodBoal said: The OST will probably have the world's worst track titles. Rebel Yell U-Wing Looking at You Jedha what I mean? @@ attack Anyone for TIE? Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Quintus said: I've seen it implied here plenty of times over the years. You would obviously know better than I, having only been visiting here since January. Hopefully those people have been weeded out by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Quintus said: I've seen it implied here plenty of times over the years. Back in the dark times, when it was 2007 or 2008 when RCP took over Hollywood in full force. It was reactionary. People thought they needed a savior and they picked Giacchino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Yes, you were the movement's primary figurehead here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2016 Bilbo, Not Mr. Big, DarthDementous and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 A visionary.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 4 hours ago, BloodBoal said: The OST will probably have the world's worst track titles. World's Worst World Destroyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Yavin A Bad Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 You're the oldest. No, You're Alderaan Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 You Tarkin To Me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 All TIE'd up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Going Rogue will definitely be on there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 26 minutes ago, Quintus said: Yes, you were the movement's primary figurehead here... I think you're mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Death Star Search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, Blumenkohl said: I think you're mistaken. Just had to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I thought the same thing, gisty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Your confidence in Giacchino is your weakness. My faith in me being right isn't mine. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Time passes on very quick.....Probably 'Giacchino is the next Williams' has not been said here in a serious way for a decade now. Can we just move along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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