Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 On 7/29/2017 at 7:14 PM, Chewy said: Saw the film today, here are the cues heard in the movie in chronological order: 01 - Intro (0:27) [unreleased] 02 - Pearls On Mul (7:14) 03 - Dream (0:22) [unreleased] 04 - Landing (1:01) [unreleased] 05 - Reading The Memo pt. 1 (0:54) 06 - Big Market (2:06) 07 - Reading The Memo pt. 2 (0:22) 08 - Flight Above The Big Market (2:45) 09 - Trading The Pearl (1:12) [unreleased] 10 - Showtime (2:24) 11 - Heavy Balls (0:39) [unreleased] 12 - Adios (0:11) [unreleased] 13 - Leaving Big Market (0:33) [unreleased] 14 - Valerian In Trouble (1:22) 15 - Bus Attack (3:30) [7 sec insert unreleased] 16 - Uranium Washing (0:58) [unreleased] 17 - Access Denied (0:22) [unreleased] 18 - On The Beach (0:19) [unreleased] 19 - Arriving On Alpha (2:00) 20 - Radioactive Zone (1:05) [unreleased] 21 - Council (0:30) [unreleased] 22 - Prisoner (1:48) [unreleased] 23 - Guarding (0:42) [unreleased] 24 - Pearls Attack (4:05) 25 - Valerian's Armor (2:09) 26 - Spaceship Chase (3:34) 27 - Handcuffs (0:57) [unreleased] 28 - Searching Valerian (1:04) [unreleased] 29 - Submarine (2:40) 30 - Medusa (1:50) 31 - Shoot (1:36) 32 - Help us (0:57) [unreleased] 33 - Fishing For Butterflies (1:58) 34 - Paradise Alley (0:28) [unreleased] 35 - Bubble's Charm (0:40) [unreleased] 36 - Bubble (0:27) 37 - In Boulanbator Area (0:21) [unreleased] 38 - Le Souper Du Roi (2:00) 39 - Boulanbator Combat (3:15) [13 sec insert unreleased] 40 - Access Denied Again (1:24) [unreleased] 41 - Bubble's Death (1:57) 42 - Pearl's World (6:25) 43 - The City Of 1000 Planets (3:50) 44 - Mul Destruction (3:55) [unreleased] 45 - I Am A Soldier (2:04) 46 - Preparing The Assault (0:55) [unreleased] 47 - Pearls Power (1:50) 48 - Final Combat (8:29) [1:30 alternate ending unreleased] 49 - Only You On My Playlist (1:15) [unreleased] So the CD tracks are in the correct order and the cool thing is that there is 0 microedit in the CD cues (not so used to seeing this, as a JW fan...). The unreleased cues are mostly underscore and don't introduce any new theme or any particular interesting new sound. Jesus, you were able to get all this from one viewing of the movie? toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Ah, that would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Is that legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2017 I will make it legal Max, John, crumbs and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 In appreciation for playing your part you have received a complimentary Bilbo Like™ Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 crumbs and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,381 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 14 hours ago, BloodBoal said: I'm guessing he used an audio recording device, to study the score later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 On my first listen and I'm very much enjoying this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,317 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 I liked it immediately on my first listen too! The problem for me then was, the initial tracks are all very exciting, then it really peters off a bit, and doesn't end strong. I've listened to it a lot more now, and actually listened to it in the car again this week. I like this score more and more every time I listen! I really notice all the themes now and think its funny I didn't really pick up on any of them the first time around. This is a very fun, summer, popcorn score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 I am enjoying it though! Its not his best work but its good. I'll need to give it a few listens/see the movie to give an accurate opinion but I'm not regretting downloading it. toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Another behind the scenes video. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,903 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 On 8/3/2017 at 0:01 PM, Jay said: I liked it immediately on my first listen too! The problem for me then was, the initial tracks are all very exciting, then it really peters off a bit, and doesn't end strong. I've listened to it a lot more now, and actually listened to it in the car again this week. I like this score more and more every time I listen! I really notice all the themes now and think its funny I didn't really pick up on any of them the first time around. This is a very fun, summer, popcorn score! Jay did you see the film? Does the score work in the film? I am very much on the fence on forking over my hard earned $17 to see this in the theater. Even the orchestrator was lukewarm on this music. Maybe it works if people approach this as fun rather than substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 $17??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 4 hours ago, karelm said: Even the orchestrator was lukewarm on this music. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,317 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I have not seen the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,903 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 12 hours ago, Stefancos said: $17??? Yes. 9 hours ago, publicist said: What? He thought the electronic elements were shoehorned and forced. I believe some of it was done without Desplat's participation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 4 hours ago, karelm said: Yes. He thought the electronic elements were shoehorned and forced. I believe some of it was done without Desplat's participation. They at least sound like ACME do-it-yourself kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Do cinema's really charge $17 for a showing in LA??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I have to imagine that's for evening 3D showings. Cheapos like me only see 2D matinees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I like going Saturday mornings. I'd say €8.50 is my average cinema cost. €17 would get me IMAX at 20:00! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,903 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 5 hours ago, Stefancos said: Do cinema's really charge $17 for a showing in LA??? I guess if its the modern theaters. The bastards even tack on a service fee even if I purchase the ticket at the theater. I went to a Star Trek double feature and that was $8 for two movies but I bet in your town it is probably $1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Just got back from seeing the film and to be honest I thought it wasn't that bad, some silly typical Luc Besson stuff, but some of it was interesting enough. The score whilst it wasn't full on thematically-driven, it did carry the scenes nicely. Might pick up the score when I get the chance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 This is such a fantastic score - exciting, exuberant, bombastic, thematic. Why are you lot not celebrating this masterpiece? This is literally the only good score this year! The themes are awesome but how about the sly references to all our favourite composers? Take Showtime for example from 1:53 onwards - if that is not a Demolition Man homage, well..... Spaceship Chase - 1990s Trevor Jones brass work in Last of the Mohicans and especially Freejack 1:55-3:03. Pearls World - Beastmaster 2, Robert Folk 4:40 - 5:20 This guy knows how awesome film scoring was in the 1990s and he is an Oscar winner and a geek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,317 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 So the score is good because it references obscure 90s scores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 And I don't especially enjoy any of the scores he mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 If you don't enjoy any of the scores I mentioned, maybe it's time for you to have a listen. So Disco Stu and Jay lack a proper understanding of 90s scores - wow - I am sad for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,317 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Well, I've never heard Beastmaster 2 or Freejack before, no. Demolition Man is good, though! One of the few Goldenthals I own And Last of the Mohicans is good too, though I don't listen to it often And I like the Valerian score very much! I still listen to it regularly; Looking forward to seeing the film so I can appreciate it even more! Bilbo and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I do like the two Jay mentioned fine, though I never want to listen to them unprompted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,317 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Yea, I never really think of those scores unless something comes up concerning them somehow. But whenever I do listen to Mohicans twice a decade or so, I find a lot to like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I haven't yet been entirely won over by this score. It doesn't quite grip me like such an adventure romp should. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Wow, BB, wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Yeah TGP, yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 He's right about it being one of the best scores this year. It's my favourite if the year. I've never even heard of some of those films never mind listened to the scores he's mentioned though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 5 hours ago, Incanus said: I haven't yet been entirely won over by this score. It doesn't quite grip me like such an adventure romp should. I think the only true issue with this music is that the album feels a bit shapeless. Yes, there are several recurring themes and Desplat does what he can to make it colourful and fresh. But it never feels like goes from A to B to C and etc. All the pieces on the album are good but it never really builds up to anything. Having said that, I have started to enjoy the music quite a bit. Revisited it the other day after some weeks and it is still good. Still not a fan of the synth work though. I guess in this rather weak year this score is probably destined to be a top effort of 2017. Here's hoping Elfman and Williams deliver later this year. Karol Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 55 minutes ago, crocodile said: I think the only true issue with this music is that the album feels a bit shapeless. Yes, there are several recurring themes and Desplat does what he can to make it colourful and fresh. But it never feels like goes from A to B to C and etc. All the pieces on the album are good but it never really builds up to anything. Having said that, I have started to enjoy the music quite a bit. Revisited it the other day after some weeks and it is still good. Still not a fan of the synth work though. I guess in this rather weak year this score is probably destined to be a top effort of 2017. Here's hoping Elfman and Williams deliver later this year. Karol Agreed Karol, agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,317 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 You guys have inspired me to listen to this score today! BTW @thestat, do you have any comments on the themes of the score at all? Does this theme discussion seem right to you? http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/26678-alexandre-desplats-valerian-and-the-city-of-a-thousand-planets/&do=findComment&comment=1371151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,317 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Yea, I guess I'm basically wondering if people were interesting in making a revised theme list now, with input from @thestat since he seems like know the score very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Well another major theme is Pearls theme. It is actually introduced in the opening track and culminates here (at the very beginning): Karol Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Thanks Jay for being so courteous about my contribution to analysing this awesome score. I am afraid I don't have much to say about the themes outside. In the film, they follow a very typical structure - Valerian does something heroic, or sulks in a heroic manner, his theme etc. The film is great by the way. Proper scifi with worldbuilding that works. Besson could have rethought his choice to cast DeHaan as the lead as, while he is a fine actor, he does not have the levity required for this role. He still tries and it works at times. Delvevigne is much, much better. I am more concerned with Desplat the composer who seems to get a lot of flak for being too arty or not exciting enough. Well, it does not get any more blockbusterish-colourful and thematic than this. Once you see the film, the themes are obvious though labelling one of the final tracks as The City of a Thousand Planets is misleading. Yes, this is very clearly not the rejected score to Rogue One. While Giacchino does a fine job, clearly Desplat is much superior in the fun stakes (bizarrely, considering his reputation) and providing action highlights that are dynamic and thematic. Valerian sounds much more like a Jerry Goldsmith score from the late 80s, early 90s (without sounding anything like one!) than anything Giacchino's done. It sounds cool and fun. Arpy and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,317 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Yea I really want to see the film. Definitely will as soon as it comes out for home video. And that's funny, I was just listening to a podcast today and they said the same thing, that DeHaan was in over his head and should have been recast. Otherwise, they liked it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 The weakest part of the film for me is the writing for the two leads, many times they're given dialogue that's meant to come off as a witty remark or evoke a laugh, but it falls completely flat. I honestly think it's another Hayden Christensen scenario - an alright actor given hydraulic-compressor flat lines. Oscar-calibre actors can't make the dialogue better, so I don't think a recast could save that aspect. Other than that the film is entertaining! Is "Medusa" a Desplat cue, or adapted from a song? It's the only cue that sticks out to me from the rest of the score because it doesn't sound like anything else in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,381 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I've started working on a complete edit (using the film audio channels, with SFX, unfortunately). I'm keeping the same "cool" names I used when I listed the tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,317 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 On 8/27/2017 at 8:53 PM, Arpy said: Is "Medusa" a Desplat cue, or adapted from a song? It's the only cue that sticks out to me from the rest of the score because it doesn't sound like anything else in it! I believe it is purely Desplat original and not related to any songs. It works great in the scene its written for Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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