TheUlyssesian 2,477 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, crumbs said: It really wasn't an interesting enough theme the first time and he's bringing it back? And another lazy regurgitation of the french horn solo from the JP theme? Come on Michael, you can do much better than this. Hoped he might take some inspiration from how Williams approached TLW after JP. Yeah, yeah, only one minute out of a 100 minute score, I know. It's one of his most mediocre themes. Extremely basic in its construction. Jyn's theme is a masterpiece compared to this. Not Mr. Big and crumbs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 You get the sense it was a first pass that he came up with in about 10 minutes, then it just stuck because he didn't have the time/inclination to bother thinking of anything more interesting. Not Mr. Big and Bilbo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2018 The complaining begins! Time to stop clicking on this thread! Hooray! Pieter Boelen, Arpy, Giftheck and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I like that theme. The score as a whole wasn't my favorite Giacchino by a long run, but the track "As the Jurassic World Turns" was one of my favorite tracks of its year. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Same. But I was indeed confused for a moment by its reprisal here. It took another listen to recognize subtle differences. But I'm still half asleep anyway (I've got a dog on me and he won't get up...). I do hope there's a theme specific to Fallen Kingdom (in the vein of how John Williams had a Lost World theme and only reprised the first film's theme at the beginning and end). Come to think of it, Don Davis' JP3 is the only one to not have its own theme, but I suppose JP3 didn't deserve one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I always said don Davis should have been scored jpiii using jurassic park themes with the tribal orchestration or tlw themes with melodically orchestrations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,306 Posted March 15, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2018 21 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: Come to think of it, Don Davis' JP3 is the only one to not have its own theme, but I suppose JP3 didn't deserve one. Huh? The Kirby family theme is JP3's main theme, with the militaristic mercenary theme the secondary one. Both far more interesting and developed ideas than anything in Giacchino's JW. Heck, even his TLW video game themes were more interesting! Both Davis themes are fun earworms; very Williams-y, closer in tone to the first film's writing than the second. Arpy, 1977 and Jacck 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I didn't know Don Davis did this! Thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Giacchino just posted a video of another score clip - this one with a tinkling piano version of Williams' main theme, not too unlike what we've seen in the trailers. I'll leave it to someone with easier Twitter access to post a link. OK bye! Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Not Mr. Big and Jacck 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 A mild shame he's giving it away already, but the last score only used the Williams theme a few times anyway. Unlike Don Davis who has to constantly remind us that we are, indeed, listening to Jurassic Park. Though unlike Giacchino, to be fair, he played with it more. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 hours ago, mstrox said: Giacchino just posted a video of another score clip - this one with a tinkling piano version of Williams' main theme, not too unlike what we've seen in the trailers. I'll leave it to someone with easier Twitter access to post a link. OK bye! It sounds very similar to the rendition I. The old visitor center, but just half the theme...giacchino try to innovate a little please , crumbs and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I was worriedly thinking the same thing. Perhaps that's why he didn't include that cue on the last OST. Thought he'd get away with this that way! I'm sure he's just throwing that here as the preview as that's the easiest way to appease those kind of fans, and the actual score will be largely original material. But it certainly wouldn't kill him to play around with some kind of variation here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,306 Posted March 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 16, 2018 What thoroughly uninteresting, rubbish "underscore." Over a minute's worth of music that probably took, what, 30 seconds to "write"? Not hard to see why Williams had him "booted off" Star Wars if this is the type of generic crap he's prepared to put his name "to". Not Mr. Big, Bilbo and Jacck 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, crumbs said: Not hard to see why Williams had him "booted off" Star Wars if this is the type of generic crap he's prepared to put his name "to". ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,683 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I prefer the 'B' part to his JW theme. The 'A' part is definitely rather lazy. My heart sinks a little when I hear a new theme and it begins with three ascending notes. Can they really not come up with something more interesting than that? Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I'm somewhat hopeful J.A Bayona can bring something interesting out of him, but those previews weren't the ideal first impression. Heck, when he first previewed the last score, he was wise to just show us a bit of a minor theme. It goes without saying the Williams theme will be there, you don't need to tell us twice as though our minds will be blown! C'mon, man, give us a theme for Claire, or an Indoraptor theme. His original material was good enough for me last time, so give us more!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 JA Bayona @filmbayona 20 hours ago, mstrox said: just posted a video of another score clip - this one apparently the finale of the movie, underscoring Giacchino's fancy hat. 20 hours ago, mstrox said: I'll leave it to someone with easier Twitter access to post a link. OK bye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 FINALLY SOMETHING THAT ISN'T THE WILLIAMS THEME THANK YOU I WAS GETTING WORRIED YES YES YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSS Also, Giacchino is a dork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Richard Penna said: I prefer the 'B' part to his JW theme. The 'A' part is definitely rather lazy. My heart sinks a little when I hear a new theme and it begins with three ascending notes. Can they really not come up with something more interesting than that? This is 100 percent correct. The A theme sounds like a shitty children's campfire song. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 SQUIDWARD GOOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 On 16/03/2018 at 11:47 AM, crumbs said: What thoroughly uninteresting, rubbish "underscore." Over a minute's worth of music that probably took, what, 30 seconds to "write"? Not hard to see why Williams had him "booted off" Star Wars if this is the type of generic crap he's prepared to put his name "to". The first statement is an opinion (though one that I do in all honesty agree with: perhaps it would have been better to use the later clip of the ending if he wanted to tease us) but the second... this is the second time I've heard somebody say that JW had him "booted off" and not a jot of evidence to back that up. So please: provide it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Here's yer evidence! John and Giftheck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Classic Giacchino power-chord monster-movie mash-up. However, Jurassic World had never really grabbed my attention (except for a little of the action music). Tomorrowland was the far better score of that summer. I doubt this number two will have any seriously inventive or captivating material. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I like Giacchino fine and thought Jurassic World was one of his more enjoyable works. It is a shame that he merely amounts to 'fine' for me, but I'm easily pleased with monster music. I assume there won't be anything 'captivating' music-wise, just serviceable fun, and that's alright with me. ...Powell's Dawn of the Dinosaurs is a better score though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 OST Album coming Friday June 15th from Backlot Music https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CG1QP1F/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Awesome, Friday!!!...oh, June 15th. No source music this time, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Considering the score's by Giacchino I'm sure we'll get plenty of statements of the Force theme. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I went to the Jurassic Park 25th Anniversary Celebration and got to see the 8 minute opening of the film at a screening! It was really awesome, honestly; much grittier and darker than anything we got in Jurassic World. You can tell it's a new director. Anyway, Giacchino's score was heard in this opening of course, and while I was too caught up in the footage to really remember much, I DO remember that when the logo for the film came up at the end, the big choral music heard near the end of this new video was what played! So I am assuming all of the music heard in this video may also be from the score. Take a look: Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 The animatronics look very good there...but in the trailer I thought the t rex was CGI. I hope color grading doesn'tkill the practical effects.... Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Needs more hand puppets. (I estimate we'll get a tracklist or full cues revealed near the end of the month) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I expect CGI to be painted over everything ala the Thing prequel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Oh boy, I like paintings! (I'm really bored with the negativity here and am trying to silly things up a bit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Music sounds good in that featurette. Has a bit of a Lost World percussion vibe going on in the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: Music sounds good in that featurette. Has a bit of a Lost World percussion vibe going on in the beginning. I like The Lost World! Wouldn't mind something a bit more similar to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Just pour some water on the microphones, that's all I ask. Need some wetness in a Giacchino dino-score! Demondm810 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 What was disappointing in Jurassic World was how they used animatronics and digitally painted over them, almost wasting all the time and effort to make the puppets in the first place. Maybe the puppets provided something real for the actors to act off, but from my perspective, it was just more CGI. In JP the CG sticks out for the sake of it being the pioneer of that technology at the time, but the T-Rex and Raptors, and the other dinos the characters interact with had a real potency and sparked an emotional response because we could see they were physically there, much the same way as puppet Yoda in ESB and RotJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Actually, there were no animatronics built for JW except for the one apata..apot...apa....um, the long-necked herbivore. The reason for that being that animatronics are for close-ups/partial body shots, and JW is almost always full-body shots. By all accounts, they went out of their way to find more opportunities to utilize practicals in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 1 minute ago, kaseykockroach said: Actually, there were no animatronics built for JW except for the one apata..apot...apa....um, the long-necked herbivore. The reason for that being that animatronics are for close-ups/partial body shots, and JW is almost always full-body shots. By all accounts, they went out of their way to find more opportunities to utilize practicals in this one. They built animatronic Raptor heads for the pen sequence before the 'Chasing the Dragons' sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Yeah, but that's less in the Jurassic tradition and more like having stand-ins to give the actors something to react to ala the human actors with the animated characters in Roger Rabbit. Either way, my gut tells me this will be considerably better. I love JW for the blissful B-movie it is, but that J.A Bayona fellow is quite a professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Yeah, hopefully. Trevorrow claimed the abundance of CGI was down to the size and movement of the Indominus Rex and the scale of the park etc. but it was his plan that in the sequel with Bayona's direction that the two were enthusiastic about getting back to using more practical effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 The Orphanage tells me we're in good hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 17/05/2018 at 5:23 AM, MedigoScan said: I expect CGI to be painted over everything ala the Thing prequel History repeats itself. Universal have pulled the same trick again; same studio who demanded CGI monsters be painted over the animatronics in The Thing remake. toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 The eye thing was just some weird trailer thing. Confirmed by the producer, the eye shot of the Rex will be animatronic. Now the Indoraptor is apparently being replaced mostly with CGI. The difference though is it is GOOD CGI. Certain puppets were still only used for reference and for actors to react to, like in this case. I also think they may have changed the look slightly. You will notice the puppet has scabs/scars on it, whereas the CGI version does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 CGI is more realistic than real life things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 What do people expect from Gia's score for this film? I've lost interest in his take on Jurassic Park music after JW. Beyond quotes of JW material sometimes came across as mishandled, the new piano theme was the only music I enjoyed from JW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I like that mercenary theme he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I liked some of the material for the I-rex but most of it wasnt put on the album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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