A24 4,331 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 He has to cut a lot of fat. Oh...mass audience ... More! More! MORE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 3 hours ago, Sharkus Malarkus said: I thought there were a number of music-free scenes, more so in the first act dealing with the forest fire where SS's going for a more naturalistic feel. Always is very restrained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I don't mind Hook because it provides a welcome distraction during cringe-worthy moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Very violent sport, isn't it? Baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Confucius say baseball strange game. How man with four balls walk? Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 14 hours ago, Romão said: There are some wonderful moments in Hook that I would consider restrained. The first half of Remembering Childhood and Farewell Neverland Yeah. They are relatively few, but there are smaller moments of intimacy peppered through the score. And moments that are more ominous or more elegiac. It's very restrained in the early scenes in the film, appropriately becoming larger once entering Neverland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 19 hours ago, Incanus said: I thought the opening pitch perfect with the flute solo but the busy music for Joey and the rest of the horses frolicing in the meadow that follows is too hyperactive for its own good. The opening third is a bit too overscored but the spotting improves during the rest of the film. But the whole score makes for a brilliant listening experience because of its exuberant nature. I still consider Homecoming as one of the absolute classic JW end title tracks that has such wonderful flow and spirit to it as it spins from one theme to the next with such fluid ease. Yeah the flute solo is a wonderful introduction to the movie and the score but all those busy strings really ruin the moment. As you say, its hyperactive music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumulonimbus 22 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 16 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I think the Hook score could be adapted into a Peter Pan ballet aimed at a mass audience (a la The Nutcracker). Yes! Someone should do that. And I think the same can be said for the BFG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 4 hours ago, Cumulonimbus said: Yes! Someone should do that. And I think the same can be said for the BFG. And the same can be said for tintin with its quick tempo and surging melodic lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 The Long Goodbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1977 1,743 Posted October 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2016 Well I must be honest, if it weren't for Williams' dense, busy scoring or so-called showboating, grand-standing, etc. I would probably never have become interested in film music (see Star Wars, Superman, Close Encounters, Empire, Raiders, E.T., Jedi, Temple of Doom and the list goes on). If some of his music is, as some critics put it, pushy and insistent, then I'm a sucker for pushy, insistent music (War Horse included). All of the scores cited as candidates for most over-scored are among my favorites in Williams' oeuvre. I do however also love his more low-key efforts, such as Stanley and Iris and The Accidental Tourist. In fact, I can't think of a single Williams composition that I dislike (Heartbeeps included), and if Williams were to start composing radio jingles and cereal ads I'd most likely lap that up too. But then my alias says it all... Pieter Boelen, Marcus, Joni Wiljami and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 It's just one moment and I'm not even sure Williams wrote it but the stingers at 2:45 are hilariously over the top. Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 John Williams didn't compose any underscore for Superman IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 So the unrestrained stingers were not composed by him. Wheh! We dodged a bullet there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 But the point is that they could have been! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Musically unrestrained and proud of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 11 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: It's just one moment and I'm not even sure Williams wrote it but the stingers at 2:45 are hilariously over the top. Heh, reminds me of the fist-punching music from Temple of Doom : (beginning and at 0:50) Though in that case it sounds more deliberately comical, and works really well IMO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,653 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 "least restrained" and "overscored" are two very different concepts. Why make it a loaded question with both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I think the War Horse OST is great JW music to listen to on it's own. The whole album is a fantastic listening experience. I love the lush, full string writing, the numerous themes, and all the musical development of those short themes throughout the album. It's become one of my favorite JW albums. But in the film itself, I still find the music to be overbearing. There's too much of it in general and it's way too hyperactive. But on it's own, the music is great JW stuff. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted October 30, 2016 Author Share Posted October 30, 2016 On 10/27/2016 at 0:42 PM, Tom said: "least restrained" and "overscored" are two very different concepts. Why make it a loaded question with both? Loaded questions always beget the most revealing unsuspecting answers. : D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 10 hours ago, artguy360 said: I think the War Horse OST is great JW music to listen to on it's own. The whole album is a fantastic listening experience. I love the lush, full string writing, the numerous themes, and all the musical development of those short themes throughout the album. It's become one of my favorite JW albums. But in the film itself, I still find the music to be overbearing. There's too much of it in general and it's way too hyperactive. But on it's own, the music is great JW stuff. I completely agree with all of this artguy360 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Yep, same. I do think there are some great in-film moments, but even the effect of an exciting sequence like "No Man's Land" is diminished somewhat because the music pretty much always feels that big. At the same time, the solo trumpet call when Joey escapes in "The Charge and Capture" or the "Remembering Emilie" piano solo are almost more effective because the score rarely underplays like that elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Romão 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: True that is score is very unrestrained, but I love it and think it's totally effective. All 3 films in the JW/Oliver Stone trilogy are overbearing in nature, with big themes, visual hysteria (look at his editing style), and big performances. In my view, JW wasn't being overbearing, he was matching the tone of Stone's film. I'm kind of amazed that JW was able to find the right musical language to match Stone's sense of extreme melodrama. Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Awesome scene, awesome scoring and an absolutely astonishing score publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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