#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 This thread is intended for people who want to register their loathing, contempt and disgust for Giacchino, his music and all he stands for! If you are a fan of Gia-poopy, and you enjoy his simplistic and hamfisted version of what some refer to as music, than dont bother to scroll beyond hear. You wouldnt be able to take it, you wimpy little fairy! Don't post here is your days havent beena little darker since you realized Star Wars has gone from John Williams to Michael Cappuccino in just one year. From the sublime to the obvious in 12 months! Holy fucking shit! And the fucker is everywhere now, doing every other film! One cannot remain sane unless we decry the awfulness of the swift decay of a once proud genre! If you feel like this....welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Aren't you tired of that sanctimonious robber baron always coming out on top when he should be six feet under?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 He should not even be scoring CSI! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 It's all right, it's all right... Everything's going to be fine... Everything's going to be fine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 Come out with it, Alvar! Say what is in your heart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I... I... Brónach and KK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 You are among friends! Each of us has had this pain, like a canker in our chest. By speaking it, by screaming against the madness and the wind can we expulge this demon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Next up: The Official I HATE Stefancos Thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 I bet Gia will do one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted December 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2016 So all the constant Giacchino hating from here on out will be done here and not in the various Giacchino score threads? Awesome! Great idea. Will, Pieter Boelen, Damien F and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 It will not! We will continue to express our opinion, with clenched teeth! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 This should be renamed: The Official 'I was never loved as a child' Thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 You write all this: 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: This thread is intended for people who want to register their loathing, contempt and disgust for Giacchino, his music and all he stands for! If you are a fan of Gia-poopy, and you enjoy his simplistic and hamfisted version of what some refer to as music, than dont bother to scroll beyond hear. You wouldnt be able to take it, you wimpy little fairy! Don't post here is your days havent beena little darker since you realized Star Wars has gone from John Williams to Michael Cappuccino in just one year. From the sublime to the obvious in 12 months! Holy fucking shit! And the fucker is everywhere now, doing every other film! One cannot remain sane unless we decry the awfulness of the swift decay of a once proud genre! If you feel like this....welcome! But all I interpret is this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 The only scores of his that I've enjoyed and revisited are The Lost World: Jurassic Park video game and Space Mountain at Disneyland. I guess I'm not so much of a hater, I just find him incredibly overrated and I don't give a rat's ass about him these days. It seemed years ago like people on this forum thought he would be a composer to carry on the torch, but he's a massive disappointment. I mean, we've gotten several Star Trek scores and even a Jurassic film and they just stunk. Yet, people still defend him and apparently enjoy his bland scores. To each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2016 I've said it with more words and probably more eloquence elsewhere, but - this guy really fucking irks me. Bits of greatness here and there. Lots of mediocrity. And most egregiously, a brand which has insidiously gained acceptance by resembling enough peoples' childhoods (on an extremely weak surface level), a fact which will lead to a continued and spreading mediocrity when it comes to old school orchestral scoring. Were you mad when Zimmer replaced Silvestri? You should be mad about Giacchino replacing Desplat. Zimmer, as it turns out, is a great of film music. Will Giacchino manage to turn things around, ever? Jilal, Bilbo, Not Mr. Big and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 You guys should know not to fear Giacchino's world domination. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering, suffering leads to crying like a little girl. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I would rather have given a Desplat Star Wars score a chance than a Giacchino one. I know better.. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 There's good reason to decry the term fanboy, but you embody it, leeallen01. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted December 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, Selina Kyle said: and even a Jurassic Park one and they just stunk. This one was a pleasant diversion, really. Though listening to TLW recently had a sobering effect on my appreciation for a lot of recent orchestral scores. MikeH, Dixon Hill and KK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 I use The Lost World as a disinfectant, washing clean the mind and soul after another attempt at Star Trek Beyond's score. The problem with it is that it never goes anywhere unexpected. Its one of these scores where you can guess what Gia is gonna do 3 notes from now. Too predictable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Just now, Prerecorded Briefing said: There's good reason to decry the term fanboy, but you embody it, leeallen01. Spreading hate against something you don't approve of is exactly why the Emperor got in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 The only person I hate is you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: Spreading hate against something you don't approve of is exactly why the Emperor got in power. He's going to make America great again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 At long last. Keep all the hate in here please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I hate nothing. I just let it gooo, let it gooooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, Prerecorded Briefing said: The only person I hate is you! I bet he hates Nolan too! Get him, TGP! Just now, Luke Skywalker said: At long last. Keep all the hate in here please. If you are following me on Facebook you know I do not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Luke Skywalker said: At long last. Keep all the hate in here please. Exactly. In a thread devoted to a rather affable man who earns his shekels writing a handful of film scores a year, no less. mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 minute ago, publicist said: Exactly. In a thread devoted to a rather affable man who earns his shekels writing a handful of film scores a year, no less. The destroyer of worlds! The base master of mediocrity! The King of the pun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 /bad/ pun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I like (even love) many things Gia has written but he's gone sour to me in the last couple of years. He's regularly farts his way through dream assignments while better composers like John Powell and James Newton Howard are stuck scoring C-grade animated films and F-grade live-action films. I do think that we'll all warm back up to him once he's out of the spotlight. His music can be very appealing. He's just been stretched too far and too quickly (like Silly Putty) Mr. Who and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Dream assignments? Like bad two Star Trek movies in a row or 'John Carter'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, publicist said: Dream assignments? Like bad two Star Trek movies in a row or 'John Carter'? Maybe not John Carter but Star Trek, Star Wars and JP are all dream assignments Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 None of them (except SW, which i obviously haven't seen). Overblown crap by committee without directorial grace - pure Multiplex fodder. It's not stuff i wish on either JNH or John Powell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 Yet some of the most desired projects for what laughingly passes these days as Hollywood's filmscore elite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, publicist said: None of them (except SW, which i obviously haven't seen). Overblown crap by committee without directorial grace - pure Multiplex fodder. It's not stuff i wish on either JNH or John Powell. I didn't say they were everybody's dream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 JNH has (more than once) publicly stated what he thinks about 80% of the movies currently on the market (it's a realistic assessment). You do the math if these would be his dream projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 JNH had a few years of coasting. Doing 4 Hunger Games movies with absolutely no effect at all! And got paid loads! He must have been laughing his head off! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Have you seen these movies? He was probably catatonic after watching them on repeat for months. Dollars hard earned, i say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 Goldsmith would have delivered pure gold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I doubt it. After he died major Hollywood filmmaking did undergo severe changes: he probably would have written better, tighter scores construction-wise (who could outdo him in that department) but even JG became much more blunt even in the early 2000's. We would still love it, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 Goldsmith scoring big budget now would be music paired down to its barest essentials. Yet be still captivating somehow. MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Not putting a too fine point on it but why would we want to squander such godly resources on confusing editing nightmares passing as action sequences in 'Star Trek Beyond' etc.? There are enough smaller movies that would have suited his style much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 If Goldsmith was alive today, he'd probably kill himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 With unfiltered Camels. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 My problem with Gia is this. He starts an idea but never finishes it. There's never an end in sight, he just clips his themes at the start and doesn't follow through. I will again mention the Star Trek theme which is not a theme by any standards. It's a motif, and a flat one at that. When you think of what Goldsmith wrote as full fledged themes for many a Trek movie and tv series, especially, to me, First Contact, which just soared in its simplicity and beauty, then you get this thud of a few notes from Gia that sound like the ship tried to fly but just anchored itself in constipation, it made me not want to watch what I actually thought were decent movies. The same can be said with his Jurassic World score. His attempt at a theme to coincide with the incredible and again, simple Williams theme that is iconic now, was to turn the notes sort of backwards? And it again, just lay there lackluster, which is why they probably went back to Williams theme to give that sense of awe and nostalgia. I also don't think his chase cues are all that intricate or musical but it is better than many others out there that just repeat a note ad nauseam. I don't know, I feel bad saying this stuff, and I know in time I will get fucked sideways with a chainsaw when I get critiqued, but I was really actually looking forward to Desplat doing this if Williams could not. Or someone else who could write great themes. Star Wars needs themes, it's a space opera. I do think he will do better on this than his Trek attempts. I will go into Rogue One optimistic.... I think.... Quintus and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 This thread and all the people posting here have been reported. Expect subpoenas soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quintus 5,399 Posted December 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2016 I don't hate Giacchino at all. I just think he's not all that good an orchestral film composer, and certainly not a great musical talent by any measure. He's merely functional. The only reason I take issue with the man's music is because I'm tired of reading about how he's supposed to be "the saviour of great movie music." And because of an infamous, terrible post made here, by user Blumenkohl some time ago, which I only actually sort of forgave him for this year. In that moment, he unwittingly ensured I'd make it my idle pastime on JWFan (other than pointing out Alexcremers' bullshit) to defend against, assault and dismiss Giaknights forever. Blume's foolhardy request that JW should "step aside" for Giacchino on The Force Awakens was the single most offensive thing to me since David Koepp. This is why I have a natural tendency to rally against Giacchino's music (even after, I might add, giving it countless chances to "git gud"). Not Mr. Big, Bilbo, Gruesome Son of a Bitch and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 So who's going to start "The OFFICIAL I hate the Giacchino hating" thread? I'm hardly madly in love with his music, but I enjoy it for what it is. There is far worse out there to be sure. For all Zimmer's supposed originality, I really don't think he understands what music a movie needs sometimes. But I have yet to hear something by Giacchino that doesn't fit. I'm not saying what he writes is absolutely brilliant or that it couldn't or shouldn't have been better. But it could also have been worse. So, so much worse! The repeated hating always seems really out of place and it honestly just doesn't make the slightest bit of sense to me. But hey, if you need to get it off your chests, then doing so in one central spot is for sure infinitely better than doing it all over the place willy nilly! All those posts regurgitating the same things that have already been said on the subject over and over again are incredibly dull, boring and ultimately pointless as far as I'm concerned. So I'll be incredibly happy to not have to wade through pages of such boring whining in threads that do interest me any longer! Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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