crumbs 14,314 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 9 hours ago, Will said: Williams did ask that the two album presentations of the themes be moved to the bonus section so that the disc presents the score as it’s heard in the movie first, followed by a collection of Christmas music. The live-to-picture concerts are going on right now, with 18 or 19 orchestras doing it this season, so he had refamiliarized himself with the score recently in preparation for those. Further proof that Williams is very conscious with expansions to accompany his live-to-picture concerts, hopefully a positive sign for the HP trilogy. I kind of love that Williams is still so involved in these expansions. I know he created editing issues with IJ and Hook sets, but in the hands of the right producer his input is most welcome. Even in expanded form, he still aches for that "listening experience"! I love how conscious of sound quality he is. It bodes well for Star Wars remasters (considering how awful parts of ROTJ sound) and another attempt at Hook if the complete masters are discovered. Cerebral Cortex and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I also really like how he "did ask that the two album presentations of the themes be moved to the bonus section so that the disc presents the score as it’s heard in the movie first." So he actually was the one to request a change from the listening experience thing! For Hook, did they not have the missing music, or did Williams just not want it released? I don't own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Apparently the studio didn't want LLL to use any material other to what they had given them. Which meant they had to resort to using films stems. It's possible Williams vetoed some material too. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,107 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 I asked MV (LLL records) privately on the status of JFK i.e if it is confirmed for 2017 and also for THE WITCHES OF EASTWICK which he said that at FSM messageboard that he would get to it after the reissue from Perseverance Records is OOP. He gave me a positive but cryptic response: 2017 is a big year for Williams fans? I hope we can get JFK for sure this year? also any plans to do Witches of Eastwick now that the Perseverance cd is OOP and its the 30th anniver. His response: i think you will be very happy this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, azahid said: His response: i think you will be very happy this year The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing and The Paper Chase expansions confirmed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Ricard and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,107 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 @BloodBoal Remember he broke the news about JFK* & TOWERING INFERNO to me before anyone else! (I know I used to bug him to look into it(JFK) and he wasn't sold into it saying that there wasn't enough new music and there were licences issues and other imperial entanglements) crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 So you are the true genius behind the rise of the labels! Impressive, sir! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Azahid, please ask MM to do the Indy and Star Wars trilogies! Honestly, I reckon the Indy trilogy are very likely in the coming years. Raiders had live-to-picture concerts prepared last year so it's right in line with the reasoning for the JP expansion. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 While the live-to-picture concerts have apparently been the reason why some of these score became available for licensing and release. it will almost certainly not be the case for all of them. Raiders might be coming because of its live-to-picture concerts, but Disney might also chose to sit on it for a while and see how the pre-production of the fifth movie is coming along, thinking a re-release of the old scores might serve better as a marketing too than. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Maybe, but there's little denying that JW and SS have more clout than some marketing guy at Disney or Lucasfilm who might prefer to sit on expansions for marketing reasons. If JW asked Kathy Kennedy to explore Indy expansions, it would happen sooner rather than later. In any event, the rights seem murkier for the Indy scores. We know Disney reacquired the SW scores but there's no word on the situation with Paramount/Concord and Indy. Hopefully Concord's licence is OOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,107 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 54 minutes ago, crumbs said: Azahid, please ask MM to do the Indy and Star Wars trilogies! Honestly, I reckon the Indy trilogy are very likely in the coming years. Raiders had live-to-picture concerts prepared last year so it's right in line with the reasoning for the JP expansion. @crumbs I already did that to MM and he said " of course I would love to do Star Wars completely over again. " BTW, I have a written a proper note/email to Lucasfilm, Disney Executive and even Kathy Kennedy asking them to redo the SW score expansions after the rights reverted. And I greatly endorsed MM in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,687 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I can't see JW campaigning for Indy expansions - it sounds like it took LB quite a fight to expand the Concord box beyond bonus tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amer 2,107 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2017 Its the Labels who campaign for them. MM represents the labels. he is currently enjoying a great relationship with JW's team/management. Im sure he has won their approvals and appreciations and this eventually will lead to many new projects. Laurent Bouzerau accomplished what he could in a different time. Had MM undertaken the INDY scores afresh in our current timeline it would be more closer to the JURASSIC PARK collection( in completeness and presentation) Adding to the JURASSIC PARK set; Mike Matessino is the best thing to ever happened to us JW fans. The music is in perfect chronological sequence and with all of the music and with their correct takes/speeds. Same with 1941,EMPIRE OF THE SUN, AI, ROSEWOOD & HOME ALONE, JAWS & JAWS 2. These are great dream projects. Lets all pray and hope that we get STAR WARS & INDIANA JONES scores in definitive presentations someday. crumbs, Pieter Boelen and Jay 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: I can't see JW campaigning for Indy expansions - it sounds like it took LB quite a fight to expand the Concord box beyond bonus tracks. Different times for film score expansions almost a decade ago. Independent labels weren't as prodigious nor did they have the studio relationships they do now. Also, Disney owns Lucasfilm now, Kathy Kennedy runs the company, Spielberg/Williams have a thirst for expanding JW's catalog properly and they're loving their collaboration with MM. He seemingly finishes one score then moves straight onto the next. He's built enough trust to actually ask JW's team to expand scores that weren't even offered -- and they're agreeable (though perhaps the Amblin factor made TLW an easier request). I don't think MM would face the same resistance LB did with Indy. At the very least I think he would talk JW down from any microediting requests to Desert Chase. Amer and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,107 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 Right on!. Amblin and Spielberg driven projects seem to be working faster. In time we can expect to see more projects like ET, CE3K, WOTW etc. MM explained how he & LLL was able to influence the JW team to also consider THE LOST WORLD for this release and it worked brilliantly. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 MM's struck a great balance with JW's team. He's respectful of JW's fondness for the OST listening experience by selling the idea of expansions as complimentary releases, not OST replacements. That expansions are for a niche audience, his most passionate fans who love every note, hence limited stock numbers. This reiterates that independent labels are passionate about remastering his music to optimum quality, not simply chasing profits. I think it's "clicked" for JW, thanks to MM. There's still a few compromises and requests to move tracks to the bonus section (which is pretty reasonable), but he's much less meddling than 2008 Raiders or even Hook. Will and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 hours ago, azahid said: I asked MV (LLL records) privately on the status of JFK i.e if it is confirmed for 2017 and also for THE WITCHES OF EASTWICK which he said that at FSM messageboard that he would get to it after the reissue from Perseverance Records is OOP. He gave me a positive but cryptic response: 2017 is a big year for Williams fans? I hope we can get JFK for sure this year? also any plans to do Witches of Eastwick now that the Perseverance cd is OOP and its the 30th anniver. His response: i think you will be very happy this year Do you think maybe he doesn't tell you anything more substantial because you are quoting emails he sent you in private to a public forum without his permission? I mean, really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Do you know if Amer is leaking from emails or from private chat sessions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Yes! Everything is stored for later data analyses. Cyberdyne's servers are expanding daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 hours ago, crumbs said: MM's struck a great balance with JW's team. He's respectful of JW's fondness for the OST listening experience by selling the idea of expansions as complimentary releases, not OST replacements. That expansions are for a niche audience, his most passionate fans who love every note, hence limited stock numbers. This reiterates that independent labels are passionate about remastering his music to optimum quality, not simply chasing profits. I think it's "clicked" for JW, thanks to MM. There's still a few compromises and requests to move tracks to the bonus section (which is pretty reasonable), but he's much less meddling than 2008 Raiders or even Hook. Very well said, @crumbs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I think the fact that these are small volume releases expressly targeted at a niche audience that prefers to hear the composers original intentions preserved as intact as possible has made Williams take a different stance when it comes to what he, a multi-Grammy winning album producer, would sign off on. And it would not surprise me if it was MM who made Williams more perceptive to this kind of presentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 It seems to be that way, yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,107 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 41 minutes ago, Jay said: Do you think maybe he doesn't tell you anything more substantial because you are quoting emails he sent you in private to a public forum without his permission? I mean, really! I only share relevant information that to some extent has already been shared or discussed in public forum already by him. (Not the entire details of pvt messages) Such as JFK which he has himself shared officially on FSM. Besides MV only shares very basic hints with me from the beginning.Nothing concrete. My queries are usually tailgated on little hints and bits he shares on FSM, Facebook or bits from interviews. Like little bits of M&Ms so I can pick up the trail... On a whimsical note; I remember in some previous post you shared some agitation as to why MV was talking to me in the first place and who the hell I was? A year back. Remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Agitation? You interpreted my tone wrong if you thought that! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Makes sense though. Why is MM talking to some guy from Pakistan and not to the esteemed Moderator of JWFan! Envy is a very human emotion Jason, do not be ashamed... Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Yea, except that's not what happened at all! Pieter Boelen and Amer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Who knows what is true these days any more? Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Makes sense though. Why is MM talking to some guy from Pakistan and not to the esteemed Moderator of JWFan! Envy is a very human emotion Jason, do not be ashamed... MV! Not MM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Oh I misread. MV doesnt like me. Fuck him! Whats he talking to Amer for anyway? Twat! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,107 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: MV! Not MM. Um ..he responds to me as well. We usually discuss about projects that have come to fruition. Odds and ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Sure, I was just correcting since we're specifically discussing an interaction you had with MV of LLL, not MM freelance album producer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,107 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Sure, I was just correcting since we're specifically discussing an interaction you had with MV of LLL, not MM freelance album producer. OK. To sum it up. There is no harm in discussing whats coming or likely to come. As for sharing comments from feedback or queries raised by myself and sharing them is NOT leaking. (Of course, if the person chooses to share information and asks me to withheld that information then it is not to be shared ) Truth be told. Iam feverishly anticipating JFK and looking forward to it this year. Maybe, Fall 2017? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARDSTRAUSS68 107 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Still MM knows what us people want so he will deliver! Amer and aj_vader 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will 2,215 Posted January 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2017 14 hours ago, azahid said: Mike Matessino is the best thing to ever happened to us JW fans. I would actually argue that John Williams is the best thing to ever happen to us JW fans. crumbs, igger6, Not Mr. Big and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2017 No. JWFAN is the best thing to ever happen to us JW fans! A. A. Ron, Will and Amer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 8 hours ago, Will said: I would actually argue that John Williams is the best thing to ever happen to us JW fans. Yes! 2 hours ago, BloodBoal said: No. JWFAN is the best thing to ever happen to us JW fans! YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARDSTRAUSS68 107 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 @azahid Has anything new popped up about the project?? Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 32 minutes ago, dillweed97 said: @azahid Has anything new popped up about the project?? http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27047-stanley-iris-deluxe-edition-coming-from-varese/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARDSTRAUSS68 107 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Jay said: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27047-stanley-iris-deluxe-edition-coming-from-varese/ Thanks! Sorry I have been tuned out on here do to work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2017 The Williams project MM said he was working on is not what he was referring to on New Years Day. Incanus, Ricard, Amer and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Incanus 5,714 Posted January 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2017 So was STANLEY & IRIS the only John Williams project Mike Matessino was working on for 2017? Cerebral Cortex, Will and Amer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amer 2,107 Posted January 30, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2017 That's cool. So we do know there other Williams projects on the horizon. MV also responded on the La La Land News FSM thread with some interesting plans for 2017 specially 4th quarter. And he is asking us to save our pennies for that batch. Thats something rhyming with what exactly MM also said in the JURASSIC PARK Collection set interview: but starting in September and through our Black Friday slate I would start saving your pennies because 4th quarter is gonna be amazing if we can pull it all off. I didn't think it was possible to beat 2016s Black Friday batch but 2017 has the chance to be the "be all end all mic drop we retire from here" kind of slate of releases. Lol The only Mic dropping moment for me would be a the INDY BOX set if it pertains to Williams only. OR There could be multiple William related titles such JFK, TOWERING INFERNO, WITCHES OF EASTWICK & CE3K ? That could still be worth mic and jaw dropping OMG moment? Incanus, JWMike, Will and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Incanus 5,714 Posted January 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, azahid said: That's cool. So we do know there other Williams projects on the horizon. MV also responded on the La La Land News FSM thread with some interesting plans for 2017 specially 4th quarter. And he is asking us to save our pennies for that batch. Thats something rhyming with what exactly MM also said in the JURASSIC PARK Collection set interview: but starting in September and through our Black Friday slate I would start saving your pennies because 4th quarter is gonna be amazing if we can pull it all off. I didn't think it was possible to beat 2016s Black Friday batch but 2017 has the chance to be the "be all end all mic drop we retire from here" kind of slate of releases. Lol The only Mic dropping moment for me would be a the INDY BOX set if it pertains to Williams only. OMG Storia di Una Donna/Gidget Goes to Rome/Daddy-O/The Secret Ways Box confirmed! crumbs, Will and Amer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2017 Amer, Will and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 29 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Matessino working on Star Wars confirmed! 100% confirmed! crumbs and Amer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,107 Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: 100% confirmed! Why?...He talks in his sleep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 There's a secret code hidden in his post! If you take the first and last letters of every word, ignore some letters and add some others, then re-arrange them into words, it spells out a message! Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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