BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I think both No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood will be classics. But that's past decade. I can't remember any films that came out this decade... Karol Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Battle Royale? Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Mad Max: Fury Road is the only one I would dare to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Oh yeah, that's one. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 So many boring dramas suggested for recent years! Here's what I think will be the memorable classics: 2010s - Godzilla, SPECTRE, Pacific Rim, The Conjuring 2, Fifty Shades of Grey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I would hope that Interstellar to be more appreciated. But somehow I doubt it. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I know what you mean. It should be though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 minute ago, BloodBoal said: Even if I absolutely adore that one, I don't think it'll become a true classic. I think it could be. This kind of genre is always in fashion. Even if out of fashion. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crocodile 8,012 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 And why wouldn't it be? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 It's not quite successful enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Like Blade Runner, Vertigo or Apocalypse Now? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Those were different times. More enlightened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crocodile 8,012 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just now, BloodBoal said: It didn't break any new ground, it didn't offer anything we hadn't seen before. It's "just" an extremely well-made, carefully crafted film, but I believe a film needs more than that to become a classic. What is it exactly? It's hard to say. If we knew what it was, it would be easy as shit to make classics! A lot of the films you mentioned in your original post weren't exactly groundbreaking either. I guess it's mostly chance. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crocodile 8,012 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Quality, success and timing. The third one is always important. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Super mainstream isn't producing much great classic, if any. You'll need to look at the independent movies these days. Under The Skin, right folks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crocodile 8,012 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just now, BloodBoal said: "Quality", sure, goes without saying. "Success", yes, of course (though I wouldn't say that's a sine qua non condition). "Timing", how so? Many movies that became classics were not regarded (particularly) highly when they were first released. They became classics "after the fact". "Right time" in general. Can mean they are released at the appropriate moment or become relevant. Can be for any reason - ideological, political, cultural. Karol Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Zeitgeist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crocodile 8,012 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 What I'm also trying to say that just the fact films are not regarded as classics doesn't make them any less good. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Nobody knows the answer to this question, but the ones who will have the biggest inkling about it right now will be the impressionable teenagers with an active interest in film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Ex Machina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,359 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Bloodboal is weird. We literally already have a recent thread highlighting the best films of the 2010s http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/26881-your-top-15-films-2010-2015/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Under the Skin is a great choice. I agree. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bespin 8,481 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Depends on what gains traction through TV airings. Like, The Shawshank Redemption really only came to be considered a classic when it kept airing and re-airing on American cable channels like TNT or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 They definitely do, at least for more crowdpleasing fare. It's a Wonderful Life and The Wizard of Oz are great examples too of films that TV made into the classics they are today. Of course in this new era of streaming platforms slowly usurping traditional TV channels, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, BloodBoal said: LeBlanc is weird. He doesn't understand that "best film of a year" and "classic" aren't the same thing. If someone were to say, for example, "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy is my favourite film/the best film of 2011", does that necessarily mean that person consider that film a classic? No. OK, I getcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Probably the five best films I have seen this century are TRAFFIC, POA, TTSS, UNDER THE SKIN, and MASTER AND COMMANDER (with honorable mentions for THE MATRIX RELOADED, and TRON LEGACY). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Richard said: Probably the five best films I have seen this century are TRAFFIC, POA, TTSS, UNDER THE SKIN, and MASTER AND COMMANDER (with honorable mentions for THE MATRIX RELOADED, and TRON LEGACY). This wasn't the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 You dare to call "The Wizard of Oz" a classic, but omit its sublime prequel "Oz the Great and Powerful" starring THE James Franco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Purely in terms of Blockbusters, I think TDK will have a similar impact and longevity that some of those 80's movies many of us grew up with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Romão said: Purely in terms of Blockbusters, I think TDK will have a similar impact and longevity that some of those 80's movies many of us grew up with Ugh. Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Romão 2,274 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 It has left a much bigger mark in popular culture than say, Avatar. And it is still highly quoted. I'm making no judgments on the quality of the movie itself, just my perception that it was one of the movies that left the biggest mark in popular culture in the last 15 years or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Cue the entrance of the Brotherhood of the Holy Nolanites or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Romão 2,274 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Why so serious? is very widely known, I think, or Let's put a smile on that face And as far as big budget, blockbuster, hollywood-style cinema goes, one can do much, much worse that TDK. It's incredibly entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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