Giftheck 910 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Different footage including slightly more on the original Future War. I'm assuming this is the 'red band' version of the trailer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,317 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Gistech said: Different T-800. Reveal hidden contents I'm told this tone was sent as a backup to the T-1000 should it fail. It's already confirmed to be R-rated. Hmm, maybe there's hope. Salvation's shittiness meant I skipped Genysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 334 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I'm cautiously optimistic about this film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 910 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Edward Furlong's role in Dark Fate is a small role: https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2478367/terminator-2s-edward-furlong-is-really-happy-to-return-for-dark-fate 1 hour ago, Sweeping Strings said: Hmm, maybe there's hope. Salvation's shittiness meant I skipped Genysis. Genisys had nothing to do with Salvation anyway, but you made the right call regardless. Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 Terminator: Dark Fate is now officially Rated R for “violence throughout, language and brief nudity” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 910 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Dark Fate is 15 in the UK. This correlates with the first two films also. The previous three films were rated 12 in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,317 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Brief nudity, eh? Preferably not by Ahnult or Hamilton ... they've both disrobed for this franchise in the past, but nobody wants to see that now lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 910 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Sweeping Strings said: Brief nudity, eh? Preferably not by Ahnult or Hamilton ... they've both disrobed for this franchise in the past, but nobody wants to see that now lol. I'm going to assume it's to do with the time travel sequences as always. So it'll be Gabriel Luna and Mackenzie Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,450 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 "Brief nudity"? Brief nudity?! WTF??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 910 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: "Brief nudity"? Brief nudity?! WTF??!! Time travel arrival scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,450 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Harumph! It's "lots of nudity", or nothing! Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Awaiting the bad reviews... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 38 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: Awaiting the bad reviews... As a misguided teenager, I was very excited for Alien Vs Predator: Requiem when I discovered it was going to be R rated. "None of that watered down PG-13 quadrant pandering this time! This is the real deal, nothing's holding them back! It'll recapture the glory of the old movies! " What lie in wait, my mind could not fathom, my soul could not prepare for.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,317 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Harumph! It's "lots of nudity", or nothing! The 'content advice' mentioning it is a little weird ... the scenes Gistech mentions are usually filmed from behind the actor in question, and if a few shots of someone's unclothed ass are truly offensive to you, you're at the wrong movie . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Nick Parker said: As a misguided teenager, I was very excited for Alien Vs Predator: Requiem when I discovered it was going to be R rated. "None of that watered down PG-13 quadrant pandering this time! This is the real deal, nothing's holding them back! It'll recapture the glory of the old movies! " What lie in wait, my mind could not fathom, my soul could not prepare for.... AVPR is entertaining pastiche schlock but it's aged terribly as AVP1 is simply a more lavish and ambitious movie despite the PG13 rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,620 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I just googled to remind myself of who has scored this. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,266 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I remember when I was 11, I saw the trailer for the first AVP, with the coolest tagline ever ("No matter who wins... We lose"), and I went crazy for the movie, I wanted to watch it ASAP. Then, I rented the VHS, hoping for an ultraviolent movie on which two monsters hunt each other while also devouring the pathetic humans... 90 minutes later, I was extremely disappointed. Not only the action scenes were terrible, they also made the capital sin (on the mind of 11-year-old me) of turning the Predator into the hero of the story, helping the human battling the Alien queen. He wasn't supposed to be a hero, actually, this movie shouldn't have no "heroes" aside from the humans, which, of course, would be mercilessly hunted. One of my first disappointments with movies Why movies about showdowns between iconic characters always turn out to be pretty bad? Freddy vs Jason, AVP, AVPR, Batman vs Superman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Unfortunately, PWSA never really equaled the first Mortal Kombat movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,266 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 33 minutes ago, Edmilson said: One of my first disappointments with movies Why movies about showdowns between iconic characters always turn out to be pretty bad? Freddy vs Jason, AVP, AVPR, Batman vs Superman... Well Godzilla vs Kong will be different! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,266 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 It's from the director of the hilariously bad Netflix Death Note movie, so I'm not that confident... But I really hope it's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Indeed To be clear, MK is a terrible movie. Just in a fun way! There is nothing fun about AVP, sadly. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Edmilson said: It's from the director of the hilariously bad Netflix Death Note movie, so I'm not that confident... But I really hope it's good. Not sure it matters who directs these MonsterVerse flicks. It's more the writers and producers that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: I remember when I was 11, I saw the trailer for the first AVP, with the coolest tagline ever ("No matter who wins... We lose"), and I went crazy for the movie, I wanted to watch it ASAP. Then, I rented the VHS, hoping for an ultraviolent movie on which two monsters hunt each other while also devouring the pathetic humans... 90 minutes later, I was extremely disappointed. Not only the action scenes were terrible, they also made the capital sin (on the mind of 11-year-old me) of turning the Predator into the hero of the story, helping the human battling the Alien queen. He wasn't supposed to be a hero, actually, this movie shouldn't have no "heroes" aside from the humans, which, of course, would be mercilessly hunted. One of my first disappointments with movies Why movies about showdowns between iconic characters always turn out to be pretty bad? Freddy vs Jason, AVP, AVPR, Batman vs Superman... Almost exactly my experience, we're probably months apart at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,266 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Thekthithm said: Not sure it matters who directs these MonsterVerse flicks. It's more the writers and producers that matter. I liked the directions on all of the movies on the franchise so far. Gareth Edwards, Vogt-Roberts and Michael Dougherty did fine jobs on creating visually interesting movies. But yeah, Godzilla v Kong is a very different movie than Death Note, so he might do a good job. 1 hour ago, Nick Parker said: Almost exactly my experience, we're probably months apart at most. Lol. Paul W.S. Anderson ruining the childhood of boys born in the early 1990s craving for some violent monster action! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMaestraX 106 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 THE FEMALATORS coming to a screen near you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,450 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Ohh, I can see it now: thousands of 30-something husbands, in the 'burbs in therapy "AVP raped my chdhood". 11 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said: The 'content advice' mentioning it is a little weird ... the scenes Gistech mentions are usually filmed from behind the actor in question, and if a few shots of someone's unclothed ass are truly offensive to you, you're at the wrong movie . Sweep, with few exceptions, no-one's unclothed ass is offensive, to me Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Kramer vs. Kramer was good. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,266 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: "AVP raped my chdhood". Star Wars fans to me: "Now you understand what I've been through with The Last Jedi?!?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 The Phantom Menace was viciously raping childhoods when The Last Jedi was not even a gleam in Rian Johnson’s eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I was fairly young and I loved it. It was a great fuck for my childhood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 'Terminator 2: Judgment Day' fan screening turned out to secretly be a screening of the upcoming 'Terminator: Dark Fate' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Giftheck 910 Posted October 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2019 First off, I want to say this is my opinion. Yours may (and knowing you guys, probably will) differ, and that's fine. I'm not posting this to change minds. I'm posting my thoughts and feelings on this film more for my benefit. I really liked Terminator Dark Fate. The film, to me, represents a return to form presented in the first two films (it looks like everybody describes it this way but I honestly don't know of a better way of putting it). Spoiler Yes, the leaks are true: John is killed by the T-800 in the opening scenes (which follow right on from a brief Future War snippet with CORRECT HUNTER KILLERS AND SOUNDS, which followed on from a brief reprise of Sarah's taped rant to Silberman in T2). Actually, the CGI for that scene is mostly good (though there was one moment where the T-800 didn't quite look right). The best of the three, surprisingly, is John's CGI itself. For a brief moment, you can hear him speak as well (in Spanish as he's flirting with a Mexican girl). There's also the nice little touch of the T-800's Termovision being nearly identical, if not identical, to the one from T2. The last three films tried to 'modernize' it. Also, Sarah is actively a wanted fugitive, hence her hiding in Mexico (a point I didn't think made much sense in TSCC is why she stayed in the USA if everybody knew what she looked like). It's the small details. Now, I know what some have said 'they killed John, what's the point?' and here's my take on this: the idea is that actions will always have consequences and sometimes those consequences are far, far worse than if you had just left alone in the first place. Sarah was supposed to stay 'on-script' and go into hiding to train John for the Future War so he could become the 'great military leader', not go and blow Cyberdyne up. Sarah spends the film dealing with the consequences of those choices she made. In essence, it's reaffirming that this is Sarah's story. That idea of consequences also extends to 'Carl', the T-800, who has, with no further mission orders, had to learn to become much more human after completing his mission and even appears to be remorseful as every time he sent Sarah coordinates of other Terminators, he signs the messages with 'For John'. The humanity of the T-800 is handled with far more finesse than it was in Genisys, and it's not played for laughs either. What can I say about Sarah? I can totally see this as a progression of her T2 character. She is tough as nails but with a tragic edge. There's one particularly moving scene in which, after being confronted with her 'source' for Terminator targets being the T-800, she tells Dani that she's beginning to forget what John looked like. She never took photos of John because she believed that Skynet could use those photos to find out what he looked like (I know the Voights had a photograph of John but I always assumed that they took that photo and it would have either been discarded or destroyed once the T-1000 had used it). As an aside, there was a rumour that Sarah dies taking out the Rev-9, but that rumour is false: it's the T-800 that dies taking out the Rev-9. The new threat, Legion, is pretty clever. Much like Skynet, Legion is built for a specific purpose (a computer system built to combat cyberterrorism) and appears to decide all humans are a threat. Unlike Skynet, it doesn't choose the nuclear option as a first-strike, instead playing on our reliance of technology - shutting down utilities and electronics, right down to mid-flight planes. Skynet served as a good commentary for cold-war tensions regarding nuclear war, and Legion serves as the commentary on or ever-growing reliance on technology. It's, dare I say it, poetic. I remember people saying this film went a bit 'SJW'. I don't see it. Is it because Sarah assumes that what happened to her (being the mother of the hope of the future) is exactly what will happen to Dani? Is it because of the border patrol thing? I just don't see it here. The music was actually OK. There were some brief moments of Brad Fiedel's score direct from T2, when Carl first appears in the flashback and when we first see him in the present day. The Rev-9 has a completely new motif instead of doing what the previous three scores did and recycling the T-1000 motif. It wasn't anything groundbreaking though - perhaps it was just mixed too low to pick up properly. Overall, I really enjoyed this film. It's very much in the spirit of the first two, even if it's not quite as good as its direct predecessor (T2). I'm definitely interested in seeing the film again, and I'm definitely interested to see where this story leads. So, for me, this is the standing of the films as of right now: The Terminator - 9/10 Terminator 2 - 10/10 (one of the very few films I consider that score for, personally) Terminator 3 - 5/10 Terminator Salvation - 5/10 Terminator Genisys - 3/10 Terminator Dark Fate - 8/10 Cerebral Cortex, John and DarthDementous 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,306 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Strange, many say it's just as bad as the other bad Terminator movies. Having watched the trailers, I'm inclined to believe them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 910 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Strange, many say it's just as bad as the other bad Terminator movies. Having watched the trailers, I'm inclined to believe them. I'd heard the opposite prior to seeing the film though there were some 'dissenters' from those reviews. TBH those saying it's as bad as Genisys are probably salty they didn't get their extremely safe, boring-as-hell John Connor-owns-the Future movie where there's absolutely no stakes, the outcome is already guaranteed because they want it to loop back to the first films. I've certainly come across people who are like that. To each their own, TBH. But it is far from being as bad as the previous three. It's holding steady at 67% on RT (a measure I personally don't like using since it's a like-dislike ratio rather than a true score) which is pretty good in an environment where critics appear to have become more hostile to films from the 'wrong people' (IE anything not Disney mainstream, Star Wars or Marvel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2019 At least this movie finally recognized that this was never Arnold's franchise. It was always Linda's. Holko, crumbs, mstrox and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Alexcremers said: Strange, many say it's just as bad as the other bad Terminator movies. Having watched the trailers, I'm inclined to believe them. Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Blues 65 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 8/30/2019 at 11:29 PM, Trent B said: I'm cautiously optimistic about this film. Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Terminator 3 is my favourite. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,614 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Disco Stu said: At least this movie finally recognized that this was never Arnold's franchise. It was always Linda's. Are you suggesting she is a terminator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, Tom said: Are you suggesting she is a terminator? Well she terminated 2 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 910 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Thekthithm said: Terminator 3 is my favourite. You just liked it because of Dat Funky Man, didn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 T2 is obviously the best one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 910 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: T2 is obviously the best one. Yeah, that goes without saying for a lot of people (you'll note it's my favourite too in rankings, with T1 behind it). It's a case of lightning striking and it will never strike that place again. Star Wars has that with TESB. Star Trek has that with TWoK. Still, I appreciate Dark Fate much more for just trying to be a good film rather than actively trying to one-up its direct predecessor (T2). I think that's where the previous films went wrong: T3 was written by hacks who publicly admitted they hated T2 and deliberately tried to write rubbish so they could get tossed out of the project. Salvation was written by those same hacks. Genisys tried to one-up the 'Terminator is good' twist with 'John is evil' but the surrounding story was far too convoluted to ever work in a single film, its treatment of the T-800 was a huge step backwards from T2 by essentially making it dumb as rocks with no capacity for learning, and the cast was largely atrocious. Any decent writer could take Genisys' premise and split it into three stories with a bit of good writing. I don't think it's a perfect film, but it was necessary for it to hit the reset button on the franchise without going the 'full-on 100% reboot' route. Whether you agree Dark Fate is a good film or not... well, I'm not trying to convince you otherwise. This is just how I view things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 28 minutes ago, Gistech said: Its treatment of the T-800 was a huge step backwards from T2 by essentially making it dumb as rocks with no capacity for learning It built a time machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thekthithm said: It built a time machine. Did it? Wasn't that just future technology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 All these time travel plots are stupid. I mean, all time travel storylines are guilty of really not making any sense, but this series has gone way, way too far. We're past the point where the stupidity of Skynet can be excused due to sheer entertainment value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Terminator needs to be terminated. Two were enough, now they're just playing with the audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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