Sandor 796 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Can we get a little love for the Garrison Family Theme from JFK? I think it's one of Williams' most beautiful melodies, something Morricone would write in his sleep (and I mean that as a compliment). Has the theme ever been performed in concert (don't think so) and does it appear in other cues in the film? Haven't seen it since 1991... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 906 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 That piece really stood out for me when I first saw the film in a theater. I had only recently begun buying soundtracks, and I didn't know Williams had scored JFK until I saw his name in the opening credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Great piece? No arguments from me! Thank you, Sandor. What a helpful chap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Yes it is one of those effortless beautiful melodies akin to Remembering Petticoat Lane or My Friend Brachiosaurus that Williams seemed to pen for these brief scenes in the 90's on a whim. It has been my favourite ever since I first heard it on the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Although THE CONSPIRITORS will forever remain my favourite cue on JFK, the Garrison Theme is a lovely piece. It's a great shame, that, although JFK is a truly great score, it doesn't necessarily make for a coherent listen. In this regard, I liken it to POTA; a brilliant score, but not an easy ride, by any means. I'm not even sure if a complete presentation would rectify this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 There is a good chance you might be able to test that in the near future. Rumor has it that JFK complete release is in the works at LLL. Which should include at least one other (piano) rendition of the Garrison family theme if the film is anything to go by. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Let's hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Indeed..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2017 "Tender Duel of the Fates" as I like to call it. Alex, Loert, Gruesome Son of a Bitch and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Lovely theme. It belongs in the same collection of quite underrated Williams' melodies like If We Were in Love, How Can I Remember, Sean's theme from Minority Report, David's theme from A.I and a fistful of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 On 31.1.2017 at 5:55 PM, TownerFan said: Lovely theme. It belongs in the same collection of quite underrated Williams' melodies like If We Were in Love, How Can I Remember, Sean's theme from Minority Report, David's theme from A.I and a fistful of others. "If We Were In Love"?! I mean, it's OK for what it is -- especially in its instrumental version -- but the Pavarotti version is really cheesy, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 On 31/01/2017 at 4:55 PM, TownerFan said: Lovely theme. It belongs in the same collection of quite underrated Williams' melodies like If We Were in Love, How Can I Remember, Sean's theme from Minority Report, David's theme from A.I and a fistful of others. Nice. You can add LOVE THEME FROM THE MISSOURI BREAKS, and the instrumental version of NICE TO BE AROUND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Yes. But you make it sound like this is the highlight of the score, which stands above all else. ☺ I think the whole JFK score is vastly underrated. It's a bit like TLW... It's got a memorable main theme, and a whole slew of dissonant tracks, many of them percussion heavy. And the more you listen to it, the more you start realizing how fucking great it is, how diverse and inspired. In the case of JFK, I think Prologue, The Conspirators, and Arlington are still the highlights. But yeah, the Garrison Family Theme is hauntingly beautiful too. On 31/01/2017 at 7:46 PM, Richard said: Although THE CONSPIRITORS will forever remain my favourite cue on JFK, the Garrison Theme is a lovely piece. It's a great shame, that, although JFK is a truly great score, it doesn't necessarily make for a coherent listen. In this regard, I liken it to POTA; a brilliant score, but not an easy ride, by any means. I'm not even sure if a complete presentation would rectify this. Sorry, what's POTA again? Prisoner of the Azkaban? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Josh500 said: Sorry, what's POTA again? Prisoner of the Azkaban? Planet of the Apes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 The Garrison Family Theme is just a really lovely melody. It has great sincerity and reminds me of what JW talked about when he discussed scoring Lincoln decades later and the theme "With Malice Towards None." JW talked about trying to strip all the pretension away from the theme to distill it down to something honest and simple. To me that's the strength of the Garrison Family theme. Its incredibly earnest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 3 hours ago, Incanus said: Planet of the Apes Right!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,134 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Listening to JFK now. Really starting to wish for the Complete Release.... High time to rewatch the movie too. Imo, the best Oliver Stone movie, by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 No need to wish, MV has already posted its coming from LLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, Jay said: No need to wish, MV has already posted its coming from LLL Yeah, I know, but we don't know when it's gonna be released, do we? Will it be this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 All he's said is "2017 or later" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 49 minutes ago, Jay said: All he's said is "2017 or later" That could mean anything. Still, hopefully sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Josh500 said: Listening to JFK now. Really starting to wish for the Complete Release.... High time to rewatch the movie too. Imo, the best Oliver Stone movie, by far. Born on the Fourth of July is better, as is Nixon, as is Platoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: Born on the Fourth of July is better, as is Nixon, as is Platoon. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, Josh500 said: No. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Not Mr. Big said: Yes. Yes, JFK is the best Oliver Stone movie. The others are great too, sure, but JFK is Stone's masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 JFK is a slog. At least, the director's cut is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 The first two hours zip by, up until X finishes his speech. It could have done without the John Laroquette/toilet-trader stuff, but it's still a tour-de-force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: JFK is a slog. At least, the director's cut is. Sure. Some people don't like it, or even hate it. These are mostly people, I understand, who don't get the movie (or its message). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Just now, Josh500 said: Sure. Some people don't like it, or even hate it. These are mostly people, I understand, who don't get the movie (or its message). Doubtful. How could anybody not get the meaning of an Oliver Stone movie? He's the most blatantly obvious director on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Richard said: The first two hours zip by, up until X finishes his speech. It could have done without the John Laroquette/toilet-trader stuff, but it's still a tour-de-force. I find the movie compelling and mesmerizing from start to finish.... The final speech at the end is incredibly powerful. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 It can be a difficult film to follow (flashbacks within flashbacks), but its a brilliant ride. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: Doubtful. How could anybody not get the meaning of an Oliver Stone movie? He's the most blatantly obvious director on the planet. You hate the movie JFK, I get it. Don't try to get the rest of us to hate it too! Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 To be fair, Josh, NMB never said he hated the film. OS does have a tendency to hit you over the head with his messages. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I don't hate JFK. I just find it kind of boring and not as good as my favorite Stone's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 So you admit you hate JFK? Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,507 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: I don't hate JFK. I just find it kind of boring and not as good as my favorite Stone's. My favourite Stones are: Sharon Stone, The Rolling Stones, Roll Away The Stone, and Like A Rolling Stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 JFK is a brilliant film -- one of the best of the 90s. We just had a discussion of the Williams/Stone collaborations over on FSM. Although I think all scores are wonderful, my favourite is unquestionably NIXON. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Richard said: My favourite Stones are: Sharon Stone, The Rolling Stones, Roll Away The Stone, and Like A Rolling Stone. I prefer Stone Brewing Company over all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 16 hours ago, Thor said: JFK is a brilliant film -- one of the best of the 90s. We just had a discussion of the Williams/Stone collaborations over on FSM. Although I think all scores are wonderful, my favourite is unquestionably NIXON. Oliver Stone agrees with you! This is from the recent interview book, "The Oliver Stone Experience," that was him discussing his entire career: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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