A24 4,326 Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 On 25-10-2017 at 10:52 PM, Romão said: They are 400 meters long. How do you make that vague? That's so easy. By not showing them in full glory in broad daylight and then ride them with Queen music. For instance, you can make things vague by not fully expose them, using sand, distance and dim light. Showing only unclear glimpses of the sandworm would stir the imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 In this interview, Villeneuve reveals he's also writing Dune with Eric Roth: https://theplaylist.net/denis-villeneuve-james-bond-but-dune-20171109/ Plus, Brian Herbert chimes in: https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/928527656001314816 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 From the Facebook interview with Villeneuve: “David Lynch did an adaptation in the ’80s that has some very strong qualities. I mean, David Lynch is one of the best filmmakers alive, I have massive respect for him,” Villeneuve said. “But when I saw his adaptation, I was impressed, but it was not what I had dreamed of, so I’m trying to make the adaptation of my dreams. It will not have any link with the David Lynch movie. I’m going back to the book, and going to the images that came out when I read it.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Well I guess this means I'm a child. http://www.slashfilm.com/dune-remake-star-wars-for-adults-denis-villeneuve/ Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 "Most of the main ideas of Star Wars are coming from Dune (...)" - Denis Villeneuve What??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hardly! Star Wars wasn't about the great Jihad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 We already have a thread about this! http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27098-villeneuves-dune/& Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Most of the main ideas for Star Wars are coming from saturday matinees Flash Gordon The Searchers Metropolis Akira Kurosawa Joseph Campbell Dune Star Trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Just choking myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: We already have a thread about this! http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27098-villeneuves-dune/& Oh dear, sorry. I searched for "Dune" and "Villeneuve" and couldn't find anything. Jay, please close this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Starting a new thread for an existing subject is 1 month of ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The spice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I can see people comparing some aspects of the Jedi to the Bene Gesserit, okay, maybe just the name and they're a weird secret order, except in the original Star Wars, they're all but extinct, and in Dune, they try to run the show, much to their own detriment. And the original Star Wars is largely set on a desert world like Dune, but Tatoooine's desert environment really does not affect the plot of the original Star Wars in any way. It's just a setting, an exotic, otherworldly environment that does not look like England or most of the USA. Oppressive heat, sandstorms, exposure, lack of water, nothing. Tatooine is just a rural planet with violent natives (Jawas and Sandpeople), frontier settlers (Luke's family farm), and a frontier city with plenty of colorful visitors and commerce. Tatooine is just the Wild West in space. Arrakis, on the other hand, and all its mysteries are a powerful crucible for young Paul Atreides, who masters it perfectly to become the Emperor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 I wonder how long it would take for Jay to delete it if I created another The Last Jedi movie discussion thread ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 "The goal is to make two films, maybe more ...." https://screenrant.com/dune-denis-villeneuve-2-movies/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Yeah, right. Good luck, with that. Lynch had CHILDREN OF DUNE ready to go, until... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 This is different. This is Villeneuve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 16 hours ago, Brundlefly said: This is different. This is Villeneuve. He couldn't even make Blade Runner a hit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Stefancos said: He couldn't even make Blade Runner a hit! Cause he remained consequential and didn't give the fans what they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 This begs the question, what did the fans want from Villeneuve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I thought 2049 was excellent, and a worthy sequel. But given its box office I’m stunned they’re still going to let him make this. Muad'Dib and Obi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 Except for the cool opening scene (with Drax) and an occasional 'God, why?', the sequel didn't do all that much for me. I'm afraid that, if I watch it again, I will hate it. Drax Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Did Deakins earn the Oscar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 Why don't you watch the movie and find out, Steef? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: Did Deakins earn the Oscar? From what I've seen (and I'll admit that I have not seen the film in its entirety) I'd say that he "earned" it, as much as Andrew Lesnie, or Claudio Miranda, or Mauro Fiore "earned" theirs. That is to say, I couldn't tell what is in-camera, and what is processed. It certainty looks lovely, but I long for a return to a simpler time when the look of a film was achieved by an organic process, and not by sending it through a computer. Take Deakins' second film as an example; a fantastic look was achieved by nothing more complicated than bleach bypass (with help from over saturated sets!). I understand that digital grading can do do this sort of stuff in your lunch-hour, but I do wonder if all the effort is being taken out of the technical side of filmmaking? By running something through a computer, how much are filmmakers de-skilling themselves, or is it just another step along the evolutionary road of movie-making? How can audiences "trust" what they see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 Maybe they should no longer nominate Fantasy & Sci-fi movies for best cinematography, Richard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 48 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Maybe they should no longer nominate Fantasy & Sci-fi movies for best cinematography, Richard? I do think they're should be a measurable threshold for green screen use, like a ratio of sets/costumes/models:CG backgrounds and lighting/motion capture. eg. if you cross that line, you're no longer eligible for best cinematography and you're now a nominee for best visual fx. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 @Sharky's right. There comes a time when a film has been so manipulated in post, that it no longer bears any resemblance to what was shot. IMO, those films should not be recognised by AMPAS, BAFTA, or any other prize-giving organisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 They shouldn't be recognized altogether? Hmm, that's a bit harsh, Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I'm trying to ask the question: "what is modern cinematography about?" Is it about getting the desired shot in-camera, or is it about manipulating the caputured image into something that it was not, originally? Is there a point where the image seen on a cinema screen no longer represents what was shot? When that happens, then, IMO, the image ceases to be "photographed", and becomes "created". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 9 hours ago, Richard said: When that happens, then, IMO, the image ceases to be "photographed", and becomes "created". I'm not sure if I completely agree (cinematography is more than capturing backgrounds) but maybe we have come to the point that we need to replace the word 'cinematography' with 'visuals', at least for the movies that strongly rely on animated surroundings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 11 hours ago, Richard said: I'm trying to ask the question: "what is modern cinematography about?" Is it about getting the desired shot in-camera, or is it about manipulating the caputured image into something that it was not, originally? Is there a point where the image seen on a cinema screen no longer represents what was shot? When that happens, then, IMO, the image ceases to be "photographed", and becomes "created". It's not about what's shot, it's about what is finally seen on the big screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 58 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: It's not about what's shot, it's about what is finally seen on the big screen. If that's all it's about, then why shoot anything, at all? Why not just have every background made in a computer, and add actors in, afterwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Richard said: If that's all it's about, then why shoot anything, at all? Why not just have every background made in a computer, and add actors in, afterwards? Because this shit wouldn't get an Oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 On 11/05/2018 at 2:27 PM, Richard said: From what I've seen (and I'll admit that I have not seen the film in its entirety) I'd say that he "earned" it, as much as Andrew Lesnie, or Claudio Miranda, or Mauro Fiore "earned" theirs. That is to say, I couldn't tell what is in-camera, and what is processed. It certainty looks lovely, but I long for a return to a simpler time when the look of a film was achieved by an organic process, and not by sending it through a computer. Take Deakins' second film as an example; a fantastic look was achieved by nothing more complicated than bleach bypass (with help from over saturated sets!). I understand that digital grading can do do this sort of stuff in your lunch-hour, but I do wonder if all the effort is being taken out of the technical side of filmmaking? By running something through a computer, how much are filmmakers de-skilling themselves, or is it just another step along the evolutionary road of movie-making? How can audiences "trust" what they see? I'd say the majority of what makes BR2049 look so amazing is the cinematography. Deakins deserved several Oscars before, but his BR2049 win is more than just a pity vote, it's certainly at least among his most deserving works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Denis Villeneuve Confirms ‘Dune’ Will Be Released In Two Parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Parts 1 & 3 I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Timothee Chalament in talks to star as Paul Atreides in Dune https://variety.com/2018/film/news/timothee-chalamet-legendary-denis-villeneuve-dune-1202824369/#article-comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 But will the Fremen be portrayed as being of Sunni descent? Corellian2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Rebecca Ferguson in talks for playing Lady Jessica https://variety.com/2018/film/news/rebecca-ferguson-dune-reboot-1202928647/#article-comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 On 7/18/2018 at 12:21 PM, Stefancos said: But will the Fremen be portrayed as being of Sunni descent? Do they need to be? The Zensunni belief, which led to the Fremen on Arrakis, was an amalgam of two ancient religions: Sunni Islam and Zen Buddhism. They could have a wide range of skin tones, and after 10,000 years, could have picked up converts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 But wasn't it stated somewhere in the text that the Fremen were direct descendant of the Sunni? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Dave 'Drax' Bautista joins the cast of Villeneuve's Dune: https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/denis-villeneuve-dune-signs-dave-bautista/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Stellan Skarsgard as Baron Harkonnen, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Just a hunch, but I think Viggo Mortensen will play Duke Leto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 13 hours ago, Romão said: Just a hunch, but I think Viggo Mortensen will play Duke Leto Yes, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I wonder who they'd cast as Duncan Idaho, for the future potential of the role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I am going to get massacred for this opinion but: Junkie XL! As you all know, I hated the guy IMMENSELY but have totally mystically been bowled over by Mortal Engines, which is still the best orchestral adventure score of the last 10 year, easily. Seems like Peter Jackson has huge power over his composers - they compose Peter Jackson music based on their own ways: Shore sounds a bit like Shore but nothing like the Cronenberg version, Junk sounds something like him but amplified into a great epic composer. As a result I now place Junk alongside Horner, up there with Krull and Willow, loving Mortal Engines. And my favourite scores are as always, Cutthroat Island and Under Fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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