Chen G. 3,949 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Count me not. If they bring Toll to shoot the film, though, it’ll look better than the strong green tint of the original The Matrix. Doubt the piece as a whole would be improved upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 The strong green tint was only added later in the blu ray release. The recent 4K release is a better representation of how the film originally looked in the cinema. Jacck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 They couldn't remake The Matrix without Don Davis. Jacck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Well, he's still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Will this new Matrix be set in the same universe as the old ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 With all due respect to the unnamed sources that provide exclusive information to Discussing Film dot net for some reason, I find it highly doubtful that the Wachowskis would direct a script they didn’t develop themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 6 hours ago, John said: The strong green tint was only added later in the blu ray release. Quote Wachowskis: One of the things we tried to do with the Neb for when we were shooting “in the real world” was use long lenses to separate the humans from the backgrounds as opposed to when we shot the Matrix we used short lenses to place the humans in specific deep spaces. We also tinted all of the lights blue in the “real world” and green in the Matrix. ... Spark: What made you decide on the green tint for being in the Matrix? Wachowskis: It was a whole motif inspired by the phosphorous green of old PC’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 The Wachowski sisters or whatever the fuck they are, are one hit wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 3 hours ago, The Original said: Will this new Matrix be set in the same universe as the old ones? It will be an alternate universe where the humans have enslaved the machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Sounds great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 ...and killed all the Apples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 @Alexcremers A counterpoint, taken from blu-ray.com’s review of the 4K release: Quote One of the recurrent criticisms of the Matrix's original Blu-ray (and, before it, the DVD) was the pervasiveness and intensity of the green tint cast over the "data" world. The 4K disc effectively addresses such complaints by fine-tuning the green cast and limiting its reach. The difference is evident from the opening Warner Brothers and Village Roadshow logos, which were previously solid green and are now a combination of green with black-and-white. The refinements continue in the signature opening sequence where Trinity fights the police and flees the agents. The environment still has multiple green elements, but now other hues are also visible, including a few blues. The stylized wash that used to cover every shot is no more. For a particularly revealing example, look at the scene where Agent Smith rams a truck into the phone booth through which Trinity makes her escape (see screenshot 38). Only the phone booth is green, while the smoke surrounding the truck is a combination of white and blue—and the pavement looks like authentic city asphalt with just a few tell-tale green highlights. To borrow Jan Yarbrough's phrase, green is "ever present"—but it isn't everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I haven't seen it but it seems the effect is more subtle now, but not gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Christ this is not something that needs a retread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 11 hours ago, mstrox said: With all due respect to the unnamed sources that provide exclusive information to Discussing Film dot net for some reason, I find it highly doubtful that the Wachowskis would direct a script they didn’t develop themselves. Fair point, but it's also important to note that they've failed to produce any sort of hit with a big budget multiple times in a row. This could be the caveat for them to get back into Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Star Trek: Generations also has a green tint on Blu-ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, Dieter Stark said: Star Trek: Generations also has a green tint on Blu-ray. Nice green TV lighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 That 90's pre-Trinitron look! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 The subtext of the original movies is more relevant than ever. Time to tell people again how stupid they are without knowing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I've forgotten what the subtext was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Did it have subtext? I know it had subtitles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Jongo! Finish her awwf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Shoot hurrr! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 10 hours ago, Dieter Stark said: Star Trek: Generations also has a green tint on Blu-ray. Does it have a reason (is it important to the story like The Matrix) or is it just Star Trek trying to be in vogue (by jumping on the green tint bandwagon)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Does Star Trek have a reason for anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Does it have a reason (is it important to the story like The Matrix) or is it just Star Trek trying to be in vogue (by jumping on the green tint bandwagon)? Probably just poor color timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Normal: Blu-ray: Doesn't look 'poor' to me but rather deliberately 'updated' to the times we are living in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,072 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Looks better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Mmm Teri Hatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 The guy who played the Rocketeer immediately seduces her and they're about to have sex in the next scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 Lilly Wachowski says she's too busy with Work In Progress to be involved but states that she thinks a new Matrix could be better than the original. https://www.slashfilm.com/new-matrix-movie-lilly-wachowski/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Keanu is the heart and soul of The Matrix franchise, alongside Davis' idiosyncratic combination of Hollywood action licks and high-end post-modernism from Adams, Glass, Corigliano, Reich and infinity. If they reboot, Davis is a must, though not sure if he is even interested in scoring real films....I mean that downfall from Matrix: Revolutions to the John Cena 'piece' The Marine to a live action Tokyo Ghoul to some cheap beyond DTV flick this year is the quickest fall from grace (well, one that took place over 20 years) I've ever seen. Yeah, his opera is not great but taking a year out never destroyed anyone's careers quite like this - or was it that he turned down Speed Racer and got a bad rep for that? But again, doesn't quite fit with Davis' character....he seems to be a very amiable individual.....and I doubt the Wachowskis' would fuck up his career, considering the work he did for them on Bound etc. What the fuck happened? I mean, Davis still composes like this awesome Gothic masterpiece so why is no one hiring him: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted August 13, 2019 Author Share Posted August 13, 2019 yI agree that Davis, at the absolute least, is a must. He fell off the radar for years, then scored the Japanese Tokto Ghoul film. I'd love to see Keanu back but he's stated he'd only do it if the Wachowskis were involved and that's clearly not going to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 And to keep harping on, - check out this rejected score clip from the Matrix: Reloaded (Davis might have used this for his Robin Hood supplement score though) - it is practically awesome on all fronts, swashbuckling is thy name: Gistech - do you mean Tokyo Ghoul or did he score another anime adaptation Attack on Titan - would fracking love that. And Davis' collaboration with Juno Reactor needs to be explored further. Mona Lisa Overdrive is still very likely the leading and certainly the most organic techno-orchestral fusion of all time and it's 17 years old. How did these people collaborate? I mean Juno was HUGE back in 2002 so to have them do this with Davis-----awesome. But what did they do, how did they come up with the rhythms, the crazy orchestrations etc. Cos this is not like Event Horizon where Orbital laid some beats under/over Kamen, this is an actual collaboration: Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted August 13, 2019 Author Share Posted August 13, 2019 9 hours ago, thestat said: Gistech - do you mean Tokyo Ghoul or did he score another anime adaptation Attack on Titan - would fracking love that. All these live action movies even coming out of Japan... yeah, I meant Tokyo Ghoul. My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 While I like Rob Dougan's "Chateau" I really love Don Davis' original piece more and fits the sequence for the film better. I really wish they had not replaced it with Rob Dougan's piece. Even though I've got Rob Dougan's piece for my iPod I might go back and replace it with Don Davis' original piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/13/2019 at 8:13 AM, thestat said: And Davis' collaboration with Juno Reactor needs to be explored further. Mona Lisa Overdrive is still very likely the leading and certainly the most organic techno-orchestral fusion of all time and it's 17 years old. How did these people collaborate? I mean Juno was HUGE back in 2002 so to have them do this with Davis-----awesome. But what did they do, how did they come up with the rhythms, the crazy orchestrations etc. This!!! I always wonder how these pieces came about. They're amazing, and the two styles mesh so much better than they have any right to. I wish the entire scores could have included more of this sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 ‘Matrix 4’ Officially a Go With Keanu Reeves, Carrie-Anne Moss and Lana Wachowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Why? Just...just why?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Still trying to make a second great Matrix movie! John and A. A. Ron 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Why? Just...just why?! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ (I doubt Keanu needs it though after all those successful John Wick films) TBH, I feel Revolutions was a pitiful way to end the story after the build-up of Reloaded, and the result wasn't just a detriment in its own right, but it made an ass out of Reloaded too. The franchise does deserve a better conclusion. Whether this will deliver that... it's too soon to tell given all we know is who's directing and who's confirmed to be reprising their roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Matrix Reloaded is a really good movie. Revolutions is just ok. I love the Wachowskis no matter what and I hope this is good. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Will I need to see the third movie prior to this? Didn't Neo die at the end of it or something though? I hope this is going to be compatible with my "there's only one Matrix film in my universe" stance, and that this is the proper sequel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 Knowing the Wachowskis, it'll be a fourth film that requires a knowledge not only of the previous films but of the events of the old MMO game that got shut down a few years back. In that it's stated that Trinity and Neo didn't actually die, they merely became part of 'the Source'. It was all this complex plot about how Trinity and Neo were human interfaces with the machines, or something like that. They also had Smith return briefly threatening a new and more powerful form but that never came to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 M4TRIX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Why does everyone love Reloaded so much? I found its manic style made it almost unwatchable. Everything was a lot calmer in Revolutions, it's a better film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Matrix Reloaded is a really good movie. Revolutions is just ok. I love the Wachowskis no matter what and I hope this is good. This. I also hope it means Don Davis returns, though I can totally see Holkenborg scoring this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I only like the first one. The second one was so lame I never even saw the third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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