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Most wanted Jerry Goldsmith Deluxe Treatment by Varese Sarabande?

Most wanted Jerry Goldsmith Deluxe Treatment by Varese Sarabande?   15 members have voted

  1. 1. What Goldsmith titles, owned by Varese, would you like to see expanded as soon as possible? You have three choices!

    • The Final Conflict (few cues are still missing)
      0
    • Lionheart (out of print and still not complete)
      3
    • Leviathan (more than 20 minutes are missing)
      0
    • Medicine Man (approx. 15 minutes are missing)
      2
    • Rudy (approx. 20 minutes are missing)
      2
    • Matinée (just a few minutes are missing)
      0
    • Air Force One (more than 50 minutes are missing!)
      10
    • L.A. Confidential (approx. than 10 minutes are missing)
      1
    • U.S. Marshals (more than 30 minutes are missing)
      1
    • Small Soldiers (more than 60 minutes are missing!)
      4
    • The Haunting (approx. 30 minutes are missing)
      1
    • The 13th Warrior (more than 20 minutes are missing)
      4
    • Hollow Man (more than 25 minutes are missing)
      1
    • Along Came a Spider (approx. 30 minutes are missing)
      0
    • Looney Tunes Back in Action (no clue of how much is missing)
      1
    • Timeline (no clue of how much is missing)
      0
    • Another less popular score (Fierce Creatures, City Hall, Angie, Malice, Love Field, Mr. Baseball, Mom and Dad Save the World, Criminal Law, Raggedy Man)
      1

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I never bothered with that. Even though according to some on FSM it's one of his best.

Never played my Mr. Baseball CD either.

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It's the pits. Without even the trashy charms of 'Rent-a-Cop'. 'Mr. Baseball' is goofy stuff but it's a cheesy listenable score with some cute tunes. There is a dumb hate for scores like this, 'Fierce Creatures' and 'I. Q.' even if those scores are much more inventive than, say, 'Insurrection' or 'Executive Decision'.

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39 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

It's not a legit release, but there's a solid half hour in the middle of the complete KOCS that just sits there.

Maybe some people like those more atmospheric, calm parts. You can listen to these cues in another situation.

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29 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

I never bothered with that. Even though according to some on FSM it's one of his best.

Never played my Mr. Baseball CD either.

 

Isn't it Mr. Rounders or Mr. Cricket over there? 

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My answer is Air Force One.

 

@Brundlefly, for some reason you made the poll multiple selection instead of normal.  Surely not your intention...

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Oh, I missed the "three choices" bit you typed in, nevermind

 

My three would be Air Force One, Small Soldiers, and The Mummy

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4 hours ago, Jay said:

My three would be Air Force One, Small Soldiers, and The Mummy

The Mummy would be my number 1, if this poll wasn't limited to Varese titles. Nevermind, I'm quite confident Air Force One and The Mummy could be released this year.

 

4 hours ago, publicist said:

btw, 'Hollow Man' is a great album in current form.

The OST is really rather satisfying, but there are still great moments missing (Sebastian, occuring in front of the black woman with the rope, ready to kill her = pure Goldsmith brass power:wub:).

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Medicine Man, IF only one from these score can be released.

 

We already have bootleg for some of these score, but I don't know what is missing from Medicine Man.

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11 hours ago, publicist said:

You fucked up badly.

 

 

Oh, wow, another golden nugget from Pube (!).

Its been a long time since anyone said "no", to you, hasn't it.  Either that, or your balls must be huge.

So, the guy made an innocent mistake; is that any reason to jump down his throat, like that?

I can't wait to watch you "f**k up", because JWfan is going to be all over you, like a rash, and I'm going to be there, laughing.

Take your pathetic, sophomoric vitriol someplace else, and leave the subject of film music discussion to the grown-ups.

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To clarify some points:

Fierce Creatures - the album is complete

Timeline - the complete score is 74 minutes - 27 minutes of unreleased music

Looney Tunes - the complete score is 67 minutes, some of which is by John Debney

Lionheart - has been released in its entirety across two volumes, but is in need of remastering and a totally comprehensive release.  I believe the complete score will fit on a single disc.

 

I'd like to see Air Force One and Small Soldiers expanded, perhaps The Mummy and the (underrated) Hollow Man too.

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2 hours ago, Jim Ware said:

Lionheart - has been released in its entirety across two volumes, but is in need of remastering and a totally comprehensive release.  I believe the complete score will fit on a single disc.

 

I'd like to see Air Force One and Small Soldiers expanded, perhaps The Mummy and the (underrated) Hollow Man too.

I also thought Lionheart would be complete, but then I read on Filmtracks that the entire score has a running time of around 90 minutes. Who is right now?

 

Air Force One, Small Soldiers, The Mummy and Hollow Man are all among his longest scores: More than three hours are missing in total.

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10 hours ago, Sharky said:

Chinatown. That's all.

Ahem.

 

In which case your wish has come true unless you specifically wanted Varese to release it.

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3 hours ago, Brundlefly said:

I also thought Lionheart would be complete, but then I read on Filmtracks that the entire score has a running time of around 90 minutes. Who is right now?

 

Aside from some very short source cues, the two volumes are complete and contain more music than the (terrible) film.

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So the two discs are completely complete?! Couldn't that be the first complete score of all time? (1987)

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6 hours ago, Incanus said:

Ahem.

 

In which case your wish has come true unless you specifically wanted Varese to release it.

 

:blink:

 

That passed me by entirely. Thanks!

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10 hours ago, Richard said:

Oh, wow, another golden nugget from Pube (!).

Its been a long time since anyone said "no", to you, hasn't it.  Either that, or your balls must be huge.

So, the guy made an innocent mistake; is that any reason to jump down his throat, like that?

I can't wait to watch you "f**k up", because JWfan is going to be all over you, like a rash, and I'm going to be there, laughing.

Take your pathetic, sophomoric vitriol someplace else, and leave the subject of film music discussion to the grown-ups.

 

 

Are you so thick that you don't even get that bit of irony?

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I got that bit of irony, but I also respect Richard for his attempt to defend me.:lol:

 

3 hours ago, Stefancos said:

Not legitimately 

:(

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13 hours ago, Jim Ware said:

To clarify some points:

Fierce Creatures - the album is complete

 

More than complete, no? Isn't there music on the album that wasn't even written for the film? At least I remember reading that in a late 90s FSM magazine.

 

13 hours ago, Jim Ware said:

Lionheart - has been released in its entirety across two volumes, but is in need of remastering and a totally comprehensive release.  I believe the complete score will fit on a single disc.

 

The Japanese single disc release runs 77 minutes and is missing a couple of tracks from the two separate volumes.

 

13 hours ago, Jim Ware said:

I'd like to see Air Force One and Small Soldiers expanded, perhaps The Mummy and the (underrated) Hollow Man too.

 

I'll take the former two, since they're still two gaps in my Goldsmith collection. But I'd be happy with the other two as well, as they're my two favourites from Goldsmith's last period.

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Hollow Man and Medicine Man have several and the Mummy has tons of great unreleased cues.

 

The OSTs of The Haunting, U.S. Marshals and especially Small Soldiers and Air Force One are just shit, that's why I want a release that really represents the score.

 

Mulan has also a flawed OST, but it's not Varese but Disney.

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As far as i'm concerned 'The Mummy' only has one worthwile cue left which is the sandstorm scene. Goldsmith being Goldsmith left that off the official release for several more boring (or repetitive) ones.

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13 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

More than complete, no? Isn't there music on the album that wasn't even written for the film? At least I remember reading that in a late 90s FSM magazine.

 

Indeed it is - Goldsmith filled out the album with some additional material.

13 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

The Japanese single disc release runs 77 minutes and is missing a couple of tracks from the two separate volumes.

 

I think it's only missing the unused cue The Future, which is around two minutes.  A tight squeeze nonetheless.

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4 hours ago, publicist said:

As far as i'm concerned 'The Mummy' only has one worthwile cue left which is the sandstorm scene. Goldsmith being Goldsmith left that off the official release for several more boring (or repetitive) ones.

What's about the third quarter of the film, whose music is completely left off the album (=the big gap between "Discoveries" and "My Favourite Plague")

 

4 hours ago, Jim Ware said:

I think it's only missing the unused cue The Future, which is around two minutes.  A tight squeeze nonetheless.

Is there a complete cue list?

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On 18/02/2005 at 2:33 AM, John Takis said:

The complete score to Lionheart CAN be fit on an 80-minute CD. Unfortunately, it's never been issued that way.

From Varese:

Vol. 1 = The original release: only a part of the score

Vol. 2 = The rest of the score, plus a duplicated section from the End Credits spliced onto "The Future"

The Epic Symphonic Score = All of Vol. 1 + most of Vol. 2 -- a few tracks are missing

These were all issued on CD, but I believe they're out-of-print. None of the above are in chronological order. There's also an obscure Japanese release that has everything except "The Future", and IS in chronological order -- but I wouldn't know where to tell you to get it.

My advice? Get Vol. 1 + 2, or E.S.S. + Vol. 2, and edit your own version. Here's the proper track-list:

1. The Ceremony

2. The Castle

3. Bring Him Back

4. Failed Knight

5. The Circus

6. Robert and Blanche

7. The Future (minus duplicated End Credits material)

8. Children In Bondage

9. Gates Of Paris

10. Paris Underground

11. The Road From Paris

12. The Banner

13. The Dress

14. Mathilda

15. The Plauge

16. Forest Hunt

17. The Lake

18. The Wrong Flag

19. Final Fight

20. King Richard (includes the End Credits)

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34 minutes ago, Brundlefly said:

What's about the third quarter of the film, whose music is completely left off the album (=the big gap between "Discoveries" and "My Favourite Plague")

 

Nothing i need on disc. Lots of repetitions. This is a perfect 55-60 minute score.

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