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Most wanted Jerry Goldsmith Deluxe Treatment by Varese Sarabande?

Most wanted Jerry Goldsmith Deluxe Treatment by Varese Sarabande?  

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  1. 1. What Goldsmith titles, owned by Varese, would you like to see expanded as soon as possible? You have three choices!

    • The Final Conflict (few cues are still missing)
    • Lionheart (out of print and still not complete?)
    • Leviathan (more than 20 minutes are missing)
    • Medicine Man (approx. 15 minutes are missing)
    • Rudy (approx. 20 minutes are missing)
    • Matinée (just a few minutes are missing)
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    • Air Force One (more than 50 minutes are missing!)
    • L.A. Confidential (approx. 10 minutes are missing)
    • U.S. Marshals (more than 30 minutes are missing)
    • Small Soldiers (more than 60 minutes are missing!)
    • The 13th Warrior (more than 20 minutes are missing)
    • Hollow Man (more than 25 minutes are missing)
    • Along Came a Spider (approx. 30 minutes are missing)
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    • Looney Tunes: Back in Action (more than 25 minutes are missing)
    • Timeline (more than 30 minutes are missing)
    • Another less popular score (Fierce Creatures, City Hall, Angie, Malice, Love Field, Mr. Baseball, Mom and Dad Save the World, Criminal Law, Raggedy Man)


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9 hours ago, Brundlefly said:

It is the last track of the main program. Maybe it was intended to be the first track of the bonus section, but then they put "Bonus Tracks:" at the wrong place.

 

You're correct; The artwork put the Bonus Track wording in the wrong spot.

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19 hours ago, Stefancos said:

OMG! That's just the worrst thing thats ever happened!

It is! Now I had a this track on my media player for years, before I decided to leave it off the score presentation.

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Why would you leave out The Other? Twilight Time already did the restoration work on that one for their isolated score track...what's the holdup, Varese???!!

 

and while they're at it they could remaster Mephisto Waltz and add the sweeteners missing from their otherwise complete release.

 

Yavar

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The Small Soldiers boot is apparently not at all complete. The two Flint scores and The Other have good sounding isolated score tracks thanks to Twilight Time but those unfortunately do contain microedits in some cues. Rudy, L.A. Confidential, and Hollow Man received isolated scores (the latter with commentary) on DVD, but those are unfortunately in compressed audio so we really do still need DEs for them.

 

Of the remaining unexpanded Varese-controlled titles...

 

There is no boot at all (to my knowledge)  for

The Final Conflict, Leviathan, Love Field, Medicine Man, Malice, Angie, City Hall, U.S. Marshals, The Haunting...or Mr. Baseball, if anyone's interested in that one :)

 

I think there may be a boot (I don't have it) of Mom and Dad Save the World albeit in poor sound. Same goes for Matinee, though I find the sound acceptable enough.

 

There are actually only good sounding complete boots for Air Force One, The 13th Warrior, Along Came A Spider, Timeline, and Looney Tunes...and I think that last one might also be lossy like the DVD iso tracks. I guess those are legitimately lower priority but I still want them all of course!

 

Yavar

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The boot for 13th Warrior sounds great but it's missing percussion overlays for "Valhalla/Viking Victory", added in the final mix of the film.

 

Ideally a complete set would hold Goldsmith's score plus Graeme Revell's rejected score.

 

And even more ideally, John McTiernan's original cut would be released on Blu-ray!

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10 hours ago, publicist said:

The Haunting is more important. There are great-sounding boots out for the others.

I have never and I will never buy boots, so this is really no criteria!

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Just now, The Doctor said:

I don't buy bootlegs, I download them for free.

 

Me too! I do not want to support the heinous practice of bootlegging by buying them.

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1 hour ago, Stefancos said:

Me too! I do not want to support the heinous practice of bootlegging by buying them.

Surprisingly, this makes sense.

 

Especially nowadays, I can truly relinquish boots. They're often so stupidly compiled, so why grappling with it. Just wait and an official release is even more delightful when you haven't already had an almost complete version of the score.

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I didn't scroll up and thus assumed for a moment that you thought The Edge was a bad score. I was then going to express relief that it turned out I wasn't the only one who never got the love for that one. Then I scrolled up and...oh, yeah, nevermind. 

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8 hours ago, kaseykockroach said:

I didn't scroll up and thus assumed for a moment that you thought The Edge was a bad score. I was then going to express relief that it turned out I wasn't the only one who never got the love for that one. Then I scrolled up and...oh, yeah, nevermind. 

I for example am not the biggest fan of it. I enjoy it, but it is much more popular among JG fans than I would have assumed.

 

@publicist and @kaseykockroach, would you like to reconsider your Top 3, since we just got The Haunting?

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On 28.10.2017 at 6:40 PM, Brundlefly said:

Fuck Halloween! Air Force One and Small Soldiers are more important!

I know. But they didn't fuck Halloween as you can see.

14 hours ago, Brundlefly said:

@publicist and @kaseykockroach, would you like to reconsider your Top 3, since we just got The Haunting?

This is gonna be pretty complicated, when Air Force One will be out.

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On 31.10.2017 at 10:41 AM, Display Name said:

This is gonna be pretty complicated, when Air Force One will be out.

When Air Force One is released I will start a new poll. It will be interesting to see where all the votes will go then. Even I don't know what my third vote would be then. It would have been The Haunting, but well...

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If anyone is curious how a similar poll I created shook out on the FSM board:

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=114138&forumID=1&archive=0

 

"The clear #1 winner: SMALL SOLDIERS, with 29 votes! I think Varese has gotten a loud and clear message about what score people want next.
In solid 2nd place, AIR FORCE ONE with 23 votes. (Some people wanted Randy Newman's rejected score to be included and some people didn't care.)
3rd place surprised me as I find it a fairly generic action effort and I had no idea it was so beloved, but I'm guessing the brevity of the original album is playing a major role in people wanting more: U.S. MARSHALS with 19 votes.
We then have a TIE at 4th place with LEVIATHAN and THE 13TH WARRIOR at 15 votes. (If the latter is released multiple people have expressed interest in Graeme Revell's rejected score being included.)
Right behind them at 5th place we have the first "Classic Jerry" score on the rankings: THE OTHER (14 votes).

The rest of the titles received under 10 votes each, ranked as follows:
8 votes each: THE MEPHISTO WALTZ and HOLLOW MAN
7 votes each: PLANET OF THE APES, THE OMEN, MATINEE, L.A. CONFIDENTIAL, THE HAUNTING, and TIMELINE
6 votes each: THE FINAL CONFLICT, MOM AND DAD SAVE THE WORLD, and MEDICINE MAN
5 votes each: OUR MAN FLINT, IN LIKE FLINT, RUDY, and ALONG CAME A SPIDER
4 votes each: RAGGEDY MAN, LIONHEART, and LOONEY TUNES: BACK IN ACTION
1 vote each: MALICE and ANGIE
The only Varese-controlled titles which no one voted for were LOVE FIELD, CITY HALL, and MR. BASEBALL...though I would point out that in this thread and others, people have recently asked for expanded editions of all three of these even though they aren't as high of a priority as other titles.
City Hall Complete Score Breakdown (about 12 minutes of missing music estimated): http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=110759&forumID=1&archive=0
Love Field (not a breakdown but discussion of a key highlight cue which is missing on CD): http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=114459&forumID=1&archive=0
Well, this was a fun exercise with some surprises. Thanks to everyone who participated!"

 

Interestingly, the two scores released in complete form by Varese since then were The Omen and The Haunting, both of which only received 7 votes. Eight scores were more popular requests than those two, some of them with considerably more votes!

 

My current top three wants are The Other, Medicine Man, and Mom and Dad Save the World. Not the most popular picks, but I find them far more interesting and varied than the "autopilot" surface-level 90s action scores like U.S. Marshals and Air Force One, good as they are (and as much unreleased music as they have).

 

Yavar

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I'd be shocked if they didn't have plans in the cards for both scores. Perhaps just trickier/slower to do for whatever reason. But I'm confident they both will happen. Let's not forget they've already deluxified other Dante scores (Gremlins 2 and The 'Burbs) so I'm sure they'll get to Small Soldiers.

 

Yavar

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7 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

I'd be shocked if they didn't have plans in the cards for both scores. Perhaps just trickier/slower to do for whatever reason. But I'm confident they both will happen. Let's not forget they've already deluxified other Dante scores (Gremlins 2 and The 'Burbs) so I'm sure they'll get to Small Soldiers.

 

Yavar

Do you know, are there any complete score breakdowns? I just know there's a lot missing, but not exactly what.

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On 10/29/2017 at 7:38 PM, Baby Jane Hudson said:

I kept my fake 2000 2-CD edition of ID4 because it has some great arrangements that weren't on the LLL.

 

LLL's 2CD version is just fine, but still missing the film version of Target Remains and annoyingly crams Dad's a Genius at the end of The Death of Marilyn. There needs to be a space there.

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20 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

 

LLL's 2CD version is just fine, but still missing the film version of Target Remains and annoyingly crams Dad's a Genius at the end of The Death of Marilyn. There needs to be a space there.

 

The 2000 version has the complete 13 minute final battle music that Arnold originally composed in one single track. Yeah yeah all that music is on the LLL, but I still like hearing it all at once.

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Before the bootleg, the only way to hear the "film version" of The Day We Fight Back was that ridiculous recording on The Towering Inferno and Other Disaster Classics.

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There are many funny instances in the movie where I think "why the hell isn't it on the OST?". But how much and what is exactly missing is beyond my knowledge. Is the whole score really 90 minutes and more?

 

BTW, I'm talking about Small Soldiers.

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