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      Donation time at JWFan   01/16/18

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      For those who may not know, JWFan relies entirely on donations to keep running.  Donations pay for our server bills, as well as keeping our domain and Invision Powerboard fees.
      As an incentive to donate, I am offering a series of free CDS to anyone who donates over a certain amount!   Last time this was a modest success, where I raised $500 of our desired $1,000 and mailed out 3 free CDs to lucky JWFanners.  This time I'll be doing the raffling a littler different!   Our goal is $1000 once again, and I will have four tiers of free CDs you can win once again.  But this time, the more you donate, the more entries into each raffle you'll get!   Each $10 you donate gets your name put into the raffle mug once for the $10 pool, twice for the $20 pool, thrice for the $30 pool, and five times into the $50 pool.  Here is the list of CDs you can win - and I have more to add at a later time when I get a little more organized (I'll post what they are by Friday at the latest)   The $10 pool (Every $10 you donate gets you one ticket into this pool) - will be drawn as soon as we hit $250 donated Tyler Bates - God of War; Ascension (OST, La La Land Records) Danny Elfman - Planet of the Apes (OST, Sony) Danny Elfman - Taking Woodstock (OST, La La Land Records) Christopher Lennertz - Identity Thief (OST, La La Land Records) Christopher Lennertz - Medal of Honor: Rising Sun (OST) Michael Giacchino - Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol (OST, Varese Sarabande) Dave Holmes & Various - Ocean's 11 (OST, WB Records) Joel McNeely & Various - Hollywood '94 (Varese Sarabande) Joe Kraemer - Jack Reacher (OST, La La Land Records) John Williams - Born on the Fourth of July (OST, MCA Records)   The $20 pool (Every $10 you donate gets you two ticket into this pool, must donate at least $20 to be eligible) - will be drawn as soon as we hit $500 donated John Barry - First Love (La La Land) Jerry Goldsmith - The Challenge (La La Land) Jerry Goldsmith - In Harm's Way (2009 Intrada edition) Jerry Goldsmith - The Red Pony (Varese) Alan Silvestri - Dutch (La La Land) Shirley Walker - Willard (La La Land) John Williams - Family Plot (Varese Sarabande) or, any of the above CDs if you prefer   The $30 pool (Every $10 you donate gets you three ticket into this pool, must donate at least $30 to be eligible) - will be drawn as soon as we hit $750 donated James Horner - Gorky Park (OOP Kritzerland Edition) James Newton Howard - Outbreak (2CD, Varese Deluxe Edition) Laurence Rosenthal - Clash of the Titans (2CD, Intrada) John Williams - The Fury (2CD, La La Land) John Williams - Jane Eyre (OOP, La La Land) or, any of the above CDs if you prefer   The $50 pool (Every $10 you donate gets you five ticket into this pool, must donate at least $50 to be eligible) - will be drawn as soon as we hit $1,000 donated Jerry Fielding - The Wild Bunch (3CD, FSM) Ira Newborn - The Naked Gun trilogy (3CD, La La Land) Shirley Walker and Various - Batman: The Animated Series Volume 3 (4CD, La La Land) or, any of the above CDs if you prefer     All shipping will be paid by me to anywhere in the world!   I will pull names from a hat for each pool, and you get to pick whatever CD set you want if I pull your name!   To be eligible, leave your JWFan username in the comments area of your donation.  If you want to donate but not be in the running for a free CD, mention that in the comment.   Use this link or the link on the mainpage.       Thank you!   Jason, Ricard, and Andreas.
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Sitcoms in the Golden Age of TV?

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4 minutes ago, Quintus said:

Is it possible to just skip the first two seasons entirely? 

 

You can skip the first season and start from the second probably. It's not the most original or amazing thing on TV, but it's enjoyable and has a lot of heart.

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Just now, Quintus said:

 

That's another one I tried and actually didn't mind, but my other half couldn't be bothered with it so that was that. 

 

It got kind of stale after the 3rd season. But the cast makes it a worthy half hour of weekly comedy to visit.

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It had its moments until that MTV hunk took over.

 

Before Charlie Sheen's mental breakdown after he was diagnosed with HIV because he dated hookers and porn stars for 30 years!

 

Winning!

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1 minute ago, KK said:

 

It got kind of stale after the 3rd season. But the cast makes it a worthy half hour of weekly comedy to visit.

 

It's not ideal and it's a bit of a shame when it happens, but it's also completely fine - when a TV comedy loses its mojo in later years. It doesn't break the show like it does in more dramatic fair. You still get many hours worth of laughs out of those first few seasons. 

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18 minutes ago, Quintus said:

Is it possible to just skip the first two seasons entirely? 

 

I'd imagine you could start with the Season 2 finale and then just go forward from there, yea.  The love interest guy from seasons 1 and 2 is literally never mentioned again after that.  You'd miss the initial courting of Chris Pratt and Aubrey Plaza, and all of Louie CK's appearances, but the general quality of the show will be consistent from that point

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Is P&R still on form now, are they still making it? 

 

9 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

Obviously, which is why I asked.

 

What would you honestly say is one of your favourite TV comedies ever? 

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For me, Curb is Seinfeld free from network restrictions and therefore preferable (although the 'how to say it without actually saying it' writing in the Seinfeld ep where the gang have a 'no masturbating' wager is genius).  

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4 minutes ago, TheGreyPilgrim said:

Don't even remotely get that, but knowing a bit of your worldview makes it less confounding.

 

But you are an entitled white guy too, right?

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5 minutes ago, TheGreyPilgrim said:

Don't even remotely get that, but knowing a bit of your worldview makes it less confounding.

 

I don't think you know much about my worldview, but thanks for the quick reminder of why I started posting and reading much less often outside of the big JW news threads.

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Just now, Disco Stu said:

 

I don't think you know much about my worldview, but thanks for the quick reminder of why I started posting and reading much less often outside of the big JW news threads.

 

There has been enough to form a picture of it, but really I just wanted to see if you were still taking this somewhat odd "everyone is mean to me here, so I'm posting less" approach.  It's a shame, because you're interesting.

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I never got into Friends, even in the slightest.  I think it had too much of a tendency to dip into the maudlin and saccharine, especially compared to something like the unapologetically, sublimely antisocial Seinfeld.  Frasier was the prime example of inserting heart into things in a genuine way.

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Trailer Park Boys. 

 

20 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

 

I don't think you know much about my worldview, but thanks for the quick reminder of why I started posting and reading much less often outside of the big JW news threads.

 

You're a bit of a sensitive baby really aren't you. 

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3 hours ago, Jay said:

I'd imagine you could start with the Season 2 finale and then just go forward from there, yea.  The love interest guy from seasons 1 and 2 is literally never mentioned again after that.  You'd miss the initial courting of Chris Pratt and Aubrey Plaza, and all of Louie CK's appearances, but the general quality of the show will be consistent from that point

 

I would say to start at Season's 2 penultimate episode ("The Master Plan") and not the finale since that's when Rob Lowe/Adam Scott come in. There are some inside jokes and minor characters introduced in the rest of 2 that might get missed here and there like the Ron's ex-wife thing and April becoming Ron's assistant, but yeah, Season 3 was when I really warmed to it. I was liking it fine but Scott and especially Lowe changed the whole energy for the better imo. Pretty much the instant they showed up and that bland Mark guy left, the show felt like it found its sweet spot, tonally and comically.

 

3 hours ago, Quintus said:

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Is P&R still on form now, are they still making it? 

 

They finished a couple years ago.

 

The quality jumps from Season 1 to 2 to 3 were pretty noticeable to me. Laughs suddenly got harder and more frequent, characters became more well-rounded, situations more inspired (the second episode of 3 where they all get the flu is widely considered peak P&R, probably the first great episode, may not get better for you if you don't love that one). I think it held on reasonably well til the end, it never became terrible but in typical fashion the later seasons regressed a bit. But that middle stretch has some golden episodes if you're enjoying the characters. Of the recent sitcoms I stuck with all the way through their runs (the others being The Office US, How I Met Your Mother, Community) P&R was easily the most consistent and least outstayed its welcome, and had the most fitting series finale.

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2 hours ago, Quintus said:

Is P&R still on form now, are they still making it?

 

The show's ended. 7 seasons.

 

And yeah, as mrbellamy said, the quality of the writing of the show is pretty consistent throughout all 7 seasons. The first few episodes weren't necessarily laugh-out-loud hilarious, but they weren't bad either.

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Good timing @mrbellamy, I just looked up Parks and Rec ep guide since I thought it might have been the final 2 eps of Season 2 that featured Rob Lowe and Adam Scott and not just the final 1 episode, and I was right.

 

So yea @Quint, I'd say either watch those then season 3 forward, or just start with the season 3 premiere if you want to give the show a second chance after not liking the initial eps of season 1; Of course you can always backfill once you fall in love with the characters

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10 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said:

I never got into Friends, even in the slightest.  I think it had too much of a tendency to dip into the maudlin and saccharine, especially compared to something like the unapologetically, sublimely antisocial Seinfeld.

 

We finally agree on something!

 

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Friends is a very consistent, well made, if very vanilla sitcom. 

 

Aged far better than the Fresh Prince, The Nanny etc. Which are as dated and unwatchable now than most 80's sitcoms.

 

I wonder if Mad About You is still watchable?

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