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Sitcoms in the Golden Age of TV?

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There are still a couple of multi-camera sitcoms out there. Kevin Can Wait and Man With A Plan come to mind. With the former clearly offering more of "King of Queens", though not reaching its quality, while the latter is at least better than "Joey" and the god-awful and boringly unfunny "Odd Couple". It's so sad to see Matthew Perry in such a slow-witted absent-minded state. He was so incredible as Chandler that I can't even comprehend this being the same actor. More of an anti-drinking commercial than anything.

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3 hours ago, Quintus said:

If you were older I bet you would have been all over I Love Lucy! 

 

And is there something wrong with that? Don't you wax lyrically about Alf Garnett? Which is a comedy from the 60's.

 

You have a strong Cremers like tendency to put down people who are into things that you find a waste of time. Just a little whiff of pompous arse.

KK is a pretty intelligent guy, who watches, enjoys and has reviewed Doctor Who. So is he a moron for having done that?

 

I guess it's where the Brexit "we're better than them" part comes from.

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Haha, I was just teasing you, you ought to know what I'm like by now. I am a snobby fuck when I want to be though, I don't deny that. 

 

By the way was I Love Lucy's humour tinged with politicism? 

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Well Star Trek TOS was produced by Desilu, which was Lucy Ball and Dezi Arness. Paramount only took it over after I think.

 

So the I Love Lucy show you just admitted to loving led to Kirk, Spock and McCoy.

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9 minutes ago, Quintus said:

Haha, I was just teasing you, you ought to know what I'm like by now. I am a snobby fuck when I want to be though, I don't deny that. 

 

Of course you are, but on the flip side you act like a whiny little bitch when people attack your old favorites. So its swings and roundabouts.

Just now, Alexcremers said:

 

You say it like it's the worst insult one can make!

 

If someone called me that, i would have to cut either them or myself!

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12 hours ago, Stefancos said:

Friends is a very consistent, well made, if very vanilla sitcom. 

 

Aged far better than the Fresh Prince, The Nanny etc. Which are as dated and unwatchable now than most 80's sitcoms.

 

I wonder if Mad About You is still watchable?


'Vanilla' ... well yes, I do remember the 'whiteness' of the central sextet (despite New York's enormous ethnic diversity) being criticized.

But the likes of Chandler's gay drag-act father and Ross' lesbian ex-wife maybe weren't what you'd necessarily have expected from a big network sitcom.       

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I never really got that kind of criticism. Yes New York is a multi-ethnic city. But generally speaking white people tend to hang more with white people, black people with black people etc.

 

It's far from blatant.

 

Would the show have been any better had they put in a token?

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Yes, and I understand why not liking him (and/or the situations he gets into) turns some people off from not being able to enjoy the show.  I, personally, enjoyed it very much, and look forward to the new season.

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Larry David's character is the kind that can only work in comedy, really.

 

Like how all the Friends characters would be overbearing, neurotic, misogynistic, obsessive, damaged and mentally challenged if they were written for drama.

 

Chandler would the the most normal one.

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No woman who looks like her and has any self confidence would date a possesive, jealous, obsessive, misogynist like Ross.

 

Take away the comedy and his behavior throughout the show actually borders on psychopathic.

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I've never found Larry David punchable, in character or in interviews. In fact I think he's fucking awesome and definitely my kind of guy. 

 

Has anyone seen the movie he did shortly after the last Curb? The one where he loses everything. It was actually pretty good! Basically just Larry David: The Movie. 

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Phoebe man! Her dad bailed on her, her mum killed herself, stepdad in jail, twin-sister who's a porn actress while she herself works in a "massage-parlor". Became a surrogate for her retarded younger brothers kids with his 40+ year old teacher!

 

Vanilla my ass, that show it grim!

 

1 minute ago, Quintus said:

 In fact I think he's fucking awesome and definitely my kind of guy. 

 

Gay!

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Gay? I assure you it has nothing to do with physical attraction. 

 

But Friends? Snore, that was years ago. It was the Big Bang of its day - always fucking on. I can't dwell on something I got absolutely sick to death of the sight of. 

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I was a student and either abroad or partying. Ahh, the wistful looks back. But i can safely say that 'Friends' was no part of the equation. I do remember watching strange latin american and Louis De Funes movies back then.

 

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24 minutes ago, Quintus said:

Has anyone seen the movie he did shortly after the last Curb? The one where he loses everything. It was actually pretty good! Basically just Larry David: The Movie. 

 

 

I saw it and liked it a lot!  I was going to link you to my review of it in the Older Films thread, only to realize I never actually wrote one :P

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To work in the mines?

 

Highschool was like the most boring, unproductive, uncomfortable place for me. Flunked in subject I wasn't good in simply because I never really made any effort, and sailed though on the stuff I was good at, but never attempted to improve. Really a total waste of time for all involved.

 

Probably why I never amounted to much. I'm actually quite intelligent.

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