Thor 7,385 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 This doesn't have a previous thread either, it seems. The film is a forgettable, soapy Chris Columbus melodrama, but the score is great -- especially considering it's a replacement score (not sure how much time he had). Paints wintery landscapes in broad strokes, with gorgeous writing for woodwinds and solo guitar (Chris Parkening is one of our greatest masters). I've become more and more enamoured with this particular sound of Williams in later years (STANLEY & IRIS, PETE'N'TILLIE, THE ACCIDENTAL TOURIST etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Thor said: The film is a forgettable, soapy Chris Columbus melodrama disagreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 That's fine. Don't get me wrong -- I do like it sometimes when he goes all out mushy; when it's kind of a "celebration" of all those aspects, like HOME ALONE or the HARRY POTTERs or MRS. DOUBTFIRE. But it may also result in misfires, like BICENTENNIAL MAN and STEPMOM. Great melodrama is a tricky genre to get right. At least we almost always get great scores out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 891 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I love this score. Especially the tracks that feature the guitar as well as the sprightly Horse and Buggy cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,450 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 It's very nice, and I also like the guitar pieces, but...geez, doesn't JW get bored conducting his own music, all the time? Has he ever had the urge to conduct THE RING CYCLE, or the complete works of BRAHMS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 It is a charming little score with a lovely autumnal feel to it, very much in line with lyrical intimate JW scores like The Accidental Tourist and Stanley & Iris. The Days Between (aka the End Credits) is a particular highlight, both the guitar and oboe versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,614 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Richard said: It's very nice, and I also like the guitar pieces, but...geez, doesn't JW get bored conducting his own music, all the time? Has he ever had the urge to conduct THE RING CYCLE, or the complete works of BRAHMS? Your avatar is Rush. Do their concerts typically feature a lot of music by other bands? Does that irritate you as well? Or are you being sarcastic and I am just not getting it? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,450 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Rest assured, Tom, you are getting it, and that's a good point, but even Rush had a FEEDBACK tour (which I saw, btw). I know that JW is, primarily a composer, and that composers - usually - conduct their own music, but I wonder what JW's "spin" on, say, Vaughn Williams' 4th Symphony might be? I'm not sure that he's ever stretched himself, as an interpreter of other people's music. After all, he is influenced by a lot of people. Then again, one could argue "why would he want/need to?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,614 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 In the heyday of his conducting (BPO years), the ratio of other people's music to his was like 10 to 1. At this point, when he does conduct, he seems like he is on an extended farewell tour, giving the largest segment of the audience what it wants. At the end of the day, I think he sees conducting only as a means to an end. Composing he seems to find his artistic fulfillment. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,457 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I love this score! Worth mentioning is the recording of "The Days Between" by Keisuke Wakao, accompanied on the piano by the Master himself. Keisuke Wakao plays music of John Williams (1999, Denon, COCQ-83115; Pilot, Maruyama, Williams, Wakao, Borromeo String Qt) Featuring John Williams (p): The Days Between from "Stepmom". Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 The Keisuke Wakao CD is a must-have for all Williams fans, and not only for the STEPMOM piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Thor said: The Keisuke Wakao CD is a must-have for all Williams fans, and not only for the STEPMOM piece. Absolutely! Among the top re-recordings done of Maestro's work. The arrangements are all top notch. E.g. the rarely performed The Accidental Tourist piece is fantastic and perfect showcase for oboe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 And while you're at it, get the oboe concerto, which was written specifically for Wakao. It's not as strong as the bassoon concerto ("Five Sacred Trees"), but it's growing on me. Sorry, that was a total detour. Back to STEPMOM, I've always contemplated how cool it would have been if John Williams had employed John Williams instead of Parkening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,045 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 On 3/25/2017 at 5:33 AM, Thor said: This doesn't have a previous thread either, it seems. http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/17434-rate-stepmom/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BrotherSound 2,240 Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 Well, anyone dying to see the complete cue list for Stepmom, today’s your lucky day! Found it in the SESAC repertoire, apparently in film order: 688787458 Stepmom 688787459 Ben’s Antics 688787461 Isabel’s Expertise 688787462 Luke’s Rationale 688787463 She Can Cook Too 688787464 I Trust You 688787465 Feeling Change 688787467 I Killed Her 688787468 Get Out of My House 688787469 Ben Is Lost 688787470 On Horseback 688787471 I’d Do It For You 688787472 Isabel’s Rejection 688787473 Through MRI 688787474 Hung By A Thread 688787475 Art Lesson 688787476 Jackie’s Trick 688787477 I’m Telepathic 688787478 The Soccer Game 688787479 Side Effects 688787480 I Know Your Secret 688787481 Wrong Secret 688787482 It Should Have Been Me 688787483 Snowy Night 688787484 Horseplay 688787485 Career Decision 688787486 Do Something About It 688787487 Airport Meeting 688787488 Picture Gallery 688787489 Luke Brings the Tree 688787490 Are You Scared 688787491 Stepmom End Credits 688787492 You’re a Good Father 688787493 Poster Boy 688787494 Doing the Best I Can 688787497 Ladies Bonding 688787498 Magic Cape crumbs, Falstaft, Once and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,423 Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 Would be great if they release that on. Not Williams finest work but it's still a good score that deserve an expansion. #releaseStepmomexpandedscore BrotherSound, thx99, Henry Sítrónu and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,283 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 On 3/25/2017 at 6:43 PM, Bespin said: I love this score! Worth mentioning is the recording of "The Days Between" by Keisuke Wakao, accompanied on the piano by the Master himself. http://www.goplanete.com/johnwilliams/images/disco/p_cocq83115.jpg Keisuke Wakao plays music of John Williams (1999, Denon, COCQ-83115; Pilot, Maruyama, Williams, Wakao, Borromeo String Qt) Featuring John Williams (p): The Days Between from "Stepmom". I mentioned it several times. I prefer the piano only version. Unfortunately, no recording exists to my knowledge. So, I had to take piano lessons to play it myself (more badly than well, but betterthan nothing). Together with Theme from Sabrina probably my favourite piano piece from Williams. But I would not need an expansion of the original album unless the piano arrangement is on it. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,457 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said: Not Williams finest work (...) I totally disagree. SteveMc and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,423 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Bespin said: I totally disagree. As I said not Williams finest work but as he's THE master it's obviously another masterpiece! [Edit] never heard this piano version before thanks for the sharing. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,457 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 John Williams is playing the piano on that track. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Edmilson 7,266 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 3 hours ago, BrotherSound said: 688787498 What do these codes mean? These aren't reel/part numbers, or are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,240 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Edmilson said: What do these codes mean? These aren't reel/part numbers, or are they? No, they’re just arbitrary codes specific to this particular catalog. However, the codes for other JW scores in this database—The Patriot, The Adventures of Tintin, and Memoirs of a Geisha—precisely match the film order of cues when arranged ascending, and so do these, from what I can tell. Naïve Old Fart and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,957 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 19 hours ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said: Is that HanZ? 23 hours ago, BrotherSound said: Well, anyone dying to see the complete cue list for Stepmom, today’s your lucky day! Found it in the SESAC repertoire, apparently in film order: Get a hobby! On 3/25/2017 at 10:33 AM, Thor said: The film is a forgettable, soapy Chris Columbus melodrama, but the score is great -- especially considering it's a replacement score (not sure how much time he had). Who wrote the original score? Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,423 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: Is that HanZ? Nop but maybe a distant relative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,450 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 20 hours ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said: You keep using that word. I don't think it meant what you think it means. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,240 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Get a hobby! Oh, this is my hobby. My day job is trying to sort out the utterly ridiculous editing of the score in The Rise of Skywalker. 😁 crumbs and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,226 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Any thoughts on the FYC versus OST? I know the contents are the same but I'm sure someone mentioned that it was mastered differently/better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,736 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 @Tom Guernsey, the FYC is an HDCD and with a little effort, one can extract the tracks as 20-bit WAVs (actually 24-bit WAVs but the audio data has 20-but resolution). There are slight, relative amplitude differences between them and the commercial CD, given the higher bit depth, but I think that’s about it. I’ll see about posting a waveform comparison later today. Amer and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,226 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, thx99 said: @Tom Guernsey, the FYC is an HDCD and with a little effort, one can extract the tracks as 20-bit WAVs (actually 24-bit WAVs but the audio data has 20-but resolution). There are slight, relative amplitude differences between them and the commercial CD, given the higher bit depth, but I think that’s about it. I’ll see about posting a waveform comparison later today. Thanks @thx99. Don't go to too much effort on my account, it was a fairly casual query. Of course, if you want to do it for your own interest and want to share the results, that would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,072 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 28/02/2021 at 11:54 PM, May the Force be with You said: Would be great if they release that on. Not Williams finest work but it's still a good score that deserve an expansion. #releaseStepmomexpandedscore Nice. Ive never had the original album and was just thinking of getting the OST off ebay. To know that there is enough music for an expansion makes me to pause and ponder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,957 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, thx99 said: @Tom Guernsey, the FYC is an HDCD and with a little effort, one can extract the tracks as 20-bit WAVs (actually 24-bit WAVs but the audio data has 20-but resolution). There are slight, relative amplitude differences between them and the commercial CD, given the higher bit depth, but I think that’s about it. I’ll see about posting a waveform comparison later today. Since you know so much about these things, is it possible to rip the high resolution formats of SACD, DVD-A, or blu-ray audio with a USB blu-ray player (I've got a Verbatim blu-ray burner)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,736 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Since you know so much about these things, is it possible to rip the high resolution formats of SACD, DVD-A, or blu-ray audio with a USB blu-ray player (I've got a Verbatim blu-ray burner)? It's been many years now, but I've personally ripped the "Advanced-Resolution" stream from a DVD-A before using "DVD-Audio Explorer". I've never ripped SACDs or Blu-ray audio discs, though. The last time I looked into it, I believe SACDs required a PlayStation that might have been hacked or something. Granted, things may have progressed since then. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,957 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Just now, thx99 said: It's been many years now, but I've personally ripped the "Advanced-Resolution" stream from a DVD-A before using "DVD-Audio Explorer". I've never ripped SACDs or Blu-ray audio discs, though. The last time I looked into it, I believe SACDs required a PlayStation that might have been hacked or something. Granted, things may have progressed since then. Thanks. I was just wondering how I could transfer my high-res physical discs to a high-res portable player. Of course, they rather want us to purchase high-res downloads. thx99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,736 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 This article may be a few years old but it goes into gory detail of all that is (or was back then) required to rip an SACD: Down the Rabbit Hole of SACD Ripping and DSD Extraction https://www.psaudio.com/copper/article/down-the-rabbit-hole-of-sacd-ripping-and-dsd-extraction/ Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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