Display Name 60 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 So, since there's a real John Williams franchise comparison rush I wanted to make the same with a slighty more diverse composer (within a franchise, IMO). The first thing would be the Rambo trilogy. I expect the result of the movies to be quite definite, but the result of the scores could be quite interesting, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 First Blood is better than Second Blood and Third Blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 There's really someone who voted for Rambo: First Blood Part II? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display Name 60 Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 Disturbing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Brundlefly said: There's really someone who voted for Rambo: First Blood Part II? It's fun! And is probably THE textbook example for "mindless action movie". Of course the first film is anything but, so they're really as different as different can be. Critically, probably the first film has to win hands down. But I understood the poll asks for personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, Pieter_Boelen said: Critically, probably the first film has to win hands down. But I understood the poll asks for personal preference. Strike "probably". But yes, when it is about personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: Strike "probably". I was trying to avoid potentially offending any potential people who insist that the second one is potentially the best film. Somehow. You never do know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 7 hours ago, Brundlefly said: There's really someone who voted for Rambo: First Blood Part II? It's the best Rambo movie with the best Rambo score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display Name 60 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 It's the second best film and second best score. Although "second best film" is almost impossible to write cause it hurts so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 The first results of this poll are that the third movie's score is underestimated. I've always considered it to be the first plus the second score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 The third score is just electronic noise. Only the first Rambo score is worth owning. Glad I got rid of the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 23 minutes ago, Stefancos said: What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Not familiar with Jerry's scores well enough to vote on them, but movie-wise, First Blood takes it. I would say by a landslide, but First Blood part II has one of the greatest things ever committed to celluloid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 19 hours ago, I Need About Tree Fiddy said: The third score is just electronic noise. Only the first Rambo score is worth owning. Glad I got rid of the other two. First Blood is the simplest score of them. The other two are a little bit more complex and very diverse. One can just assume you have never really spent time listening to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 You don't have to assume anything. You may know that I listened to them each once, hit them with my bad CDs hammer, and threw the shards in the trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 You don't like synth music, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 He probably doesn't know what synth music sounds like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display Name 60 Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 On Tuesday, May 09, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Brundlefly said: The first results of this poll are that the third movie's score is underestimated. I've always considered it to be the first plus the second score. I'm pretty surprised that the third score hasn't got more votes. Why are there 4 votes for the second film but none for the third film?! The latter is at least funny (if not intentionally) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 The result of this poll is really a crime! One third voted for the second film and just two people (including me) voted for the third score! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Perfectly valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 First Blood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,518 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Brundlefly said: The result of this poll is really a crime! One third voted for the second film and just two people (including me) voted for the third score! I voted for the third score because it was the first Rambo score I fell in love with, due to its epic sweeping orchestral nature and great themes. But I think many people underrate it because of the inferior (though not horrible as some make it out) orchestral performance compared to the first two scores. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 They're all awesome. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,518 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 27 minutes ago, Batman's Diet Coke said: They're all awesome. Quite so. Might be my favorite musical trilogy of all time...seriously they might top LotR for me, even despite the synth farts! I love the thematic development through them. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: Quite so. Might be my favorite musical trilogy of all time...seriously they might top LotR for me, even despite the synth farts! You sight many of Goldsmith' choices of synthetic and electronic instrumentation quite sceptical, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,518 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Not sure I understand the question as you phrased it... I love some of Goldsmith's synth usage (Damnation Alley I find fantastic) and like most of it...but there are a few scores in the 80s where the synths to me are awkwardly dated and detract from the composition as music...the synth farts here, lots of the synths in Hoosiers, and most of all...some of the synths in Legend and Under Fire for me detract from what should be perfect 10/10 works. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: Not sure I understand the question as you phrased it... I love some of Goldsmith's synth usage (Damnation Alley I find fantastic) and like most of it...but there are a few scores in the 80s where the synths to me are awkwardly dated and detract from the composition as music...the synth farts here, lots of the synths in Hoosiers, and most of all...some of the synths in Legend and Under Fire for me detract from what should be perfect 10/10 works. Yavar He finally got the synths right in The Russia House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,518 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 The year before that, I love the synths in The 'Burbs (yes, even the dog barks!) And I also love the synth usage in Warlock, to be honest. I know it's not for everyone. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Porkins 53 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Just like the films, the quality of the scores goes down a little each consecutive film. Still, all are a good watching and listening experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 9 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: Not sure I understand the question as you phrased it... I love some of Goldsmith's synth usage (Damnation Alley I find fantastic) and like most of it...but there are a few scores in the 80s where the synths to me are awkwardly dated and detract from the composition as music...the synth farts here, lots of the synths in Hoosiers, and most of all...some of the synths in Legend and Under Fire for me detract from what should be perfect 10/10 works. That's exactly what I was asking for. I love most of his synth usage like in Rambo 2 and 3, Legend, The Burbs, Damnation Alley, Under Fire, Nemesis. Others are okay for me, although I don't love them: Hoosiers, Poltergeist 2, Insurrection, Link. There are just a few that I don't really like and view critical: Warlock, Sleeping with the Enemy, The Vanishing. I think there is a good amount of instances where he could have restrained a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMaestraX 106 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Rambo III - Rambo II: First Blood Part 2 - First Blood - in that order for both film & score! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,518 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 It's funny how opinions can differ, Brundlefly. I LOVE the score for Warlock and the way the synths are integrated in it; I think it's brilliant, unique, and quite underrated. They don't stick out like a sore thumb at all but feel perfectly balanced in that score. While they stick out a bit more in Link, I think they are wholly appropriate there as well. Insurrection's synths might come off a bit dated at times I suppose but they don't bother me at all...they're really worse than Nemesis for you? "Okay" for me describes Sleeping with the Enemy, The Vanishing, Poltergeist II I guess. I like most of the Rambo synths apart from the farts...I think First Blood by far had the best synth usage/integration of the three. You already know I do agree with you on The 'Burbs and Damnation Alley, but I admit I'm surprised you think Goldsmith could be more restrained in his synth usage at times, but "love" the use in Legend and Under Fire...I know I'm not the only Goldsmith fan who wishes those scores were more acoustic. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Dunnit feel gud when ya let out a whoppin big fart, mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: It's funny how opinions can differ, Brundlefly. I LOVE the score for Warlock and the way the synths are integrated in it; I think it's brilliant, unique, and quite underrated. They don't stick out like a sore thumb at all but feel perfectly balanced in that score. While they stick out a bit more in Link, I think they are wholly appropriate there as well. Insurrection's synths might come off a bit dated at times I suppose but they don't bother me at all...they're really worse than Nemesis for you? "Okay" for me describes Sleeping with the Enemy, The Vanishing, Poltergeist II I guess. I like most of the Rambo synths apart from the farts...I think First Blood by far had the best synth usage/integration of the three. You already know I do agree with you on The 'Burbs and Damnation Alley, but I admit I'm surprised you think Goldsmith could be more restrained in his synth usage at times, but "love" the use in Legend and Under Fire...I know I'm not the only Goldsmith fan who wishes those scores were more acoustic. Yavar I agree with you on Warlock. If anything I find the way the synths are handled enchances that score quite a bit, really gives it a more unique feeling. Also the synths are about the only thing I would change about Legend's score. At points, they distract from an otherwise perfect listening experience. As for my favorite Rambo score, I would say the first, just because it's the most "restrained" of the bunch, but it depends on what mood I'm in. If I'm in the mood for some great action I listen to First Blood Part II, and if I want something a bit more vaguely "middle-eastern sounding", and even thoughtful at points, I listen to part III. All three scores are superb, which is the great thing about Goldsmith's sequel scores in general. He doesn't simply just rehash music, he makes it different enough, so they can all stand on there own. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,518 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Agree 100% with everything you wrote, Fancyarcher! (Aside from really being able to pick a favorite Rambo score; as you say all three are superb.) Yavar Fancyarcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I couldn't even pick a favorite one. First Blood is just the answer I'd give if somebody stuck a gun to my face, and asked me to answer that particular question, and that's mostly since I watched and listened to the films and scores in order. One of the things I like about Rambo III, is that unlike Part II, it's not a balls to the walls action score (great as the action is, it can be overpowering at points), there's actually a lot of subtly there. I especially love the Afghanistan theme, which sounds both heroic, reflective, and dangerous all at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,518 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Agreed! Yavar Fancyarcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 The Rambo III theme is incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 It's my favourite Rambo theme. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Nincompoops! Brundlefly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Pub is one of those self-appointed authorities whose views are correct by reputation and virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Strike the 'self'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 8 hours ago, Margo Channing said: Pub is one of those self-appointed authorities whose views are correct by reputation and virtue. Except his opinions of War Horse, Meeting Joe Black and the Rambo III theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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