Jay 37,281 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Woah, turns out I was wrong! Dunno where I heard it was a 22-er from. Reality is they ordered 13 episodes, but are only airing 12 this year (episodes 1-11 and 13), saving the already filmed episode 12 to be a Season 2 episode next year (it comes back in September) That means this Thursday's new ep is the season finale! http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/news/a843131/seth-macfarlane-orville-season-1-cut-short/ http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/orville/listings/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 It looks like a very expensive show to produce. The CGI looks pretty darn good and of course MacFarlane is shelling out for a full orchestral score in every single episode, something even Game of Thrones doesn't always do!. Makes sense to go with the shorter season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Hopefully the second season is a bit longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised if they only order 11 new episodes to make each season be 12 eps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Why are parts of this show's scoring work so impossible to find online? Normally YouTube is forthcoming with this stuff, but there's nowt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 These threads on FSM has some links to some stuff: https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=119977&forumID=1&archive=0 https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=119661&forumID=1&archive=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,687 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 @Disco StuI quite liked the up/down vote episode. Anything that has a go at the social media mob is OK with me! And I thought the scoring for the most recent episode (the one with the flat universe) was outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I just love the show because it gives me the same warm fuzzy that watching classic TNG and DS9 does. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: @Disco StuI quite liked the up/down vote episode. Anything that has a go at the social media mob is OK with me! And I thought the scoring for the most recent episode (the one with the flat universe) was outstanding. The idea of public shaming that ruins peoples lives over relatively trivial matters (the case of the woman who made that stupid joke about South Africa comes to mind) is concerning and well-worth speculative fiction exploring the implications of. I just thought this particular script was a little clumsy about it, not sure what specifically to put my finger on. Like I said I still enjoy the characters doing things together (and the visual look of the show is nice too) even if the narrative they were acting out left something to be desired. 3 minutes ago, Woj said: I just love the show because it gives me the same warm fuzzy that watching classic TNG and DS9 does. Pretty much, yeah. I love that it goes for that vibe, but it certainly doesn't have the intelligence and nuance of DS9, especially in its latter half. But that's not some kind of dealbreaker for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Hardly any shows start out great right off the bat, takes a little bit to figure out their strengths and weaknesses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Pretty much, yeah. I love that it goes for that vibe, but it certainly doesn't have the intelligence and nuance of DS9, especially in its latter half. I doubt Wojo was implying that. And The Orville is not a serious-minded science fiction series like DS9 was. It's comedy albeit with some solid Trekish chops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I was not comparing shows, correct. I was comparing the feelings in me that the shows created. If I said The Orville gave me the same warm happy feeling as eating a cheeseburger, would I be comparing the show to a slab of milk encrusted ground beef? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 18 minutes ago, Woj said: I was not comparing shows, correct. I was comparing the feelings in me that the shows created. If I said The Orville gave me the same warm happy feeling as eating a cheeseburger, would I be comparing the show to a slab of milk encrusted ground beef? Cherries and papayas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Why didn't the people on that time dilated planet sing Woody Harrelson's Kelly song? Missed opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 The Orville 1x12 Mad Idolatry Fantastic finale to a fantastic season! I loved the sci-fi concept they delved into this week and I really loved the angle they took of having a character play a part in a civilization's development, and then feeling the weight of that when things didn't go well. BUT, the only real problem with the episode is that it wrapped up MUCH too quickly! We didn't get to go deep enough into this civilization and its differences from ours, particularly all the ins and outs of the Kelly idolatry....... but most disappointingly, not enough time was spent on the weight of the world it gave to Kelly. They basically went right from that to the quasi-deus-ex-machina of Isaac being able to fix everything, and the wrap up after he came back was particularly lightning paced. I think out of all the episodes would have made great two-parters, this is the one! They could have done a whole hour just on exploring the world and coming back to find how they changed it, then a whole second hour on how Kelly feels about it and more planning on how to fix it and more time spend on isaac's time there and that aftermath. Oh well. Can't wait for season 2! karelm and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 There was a Voyager episode that was just like this episode, in which the Doctor spends lifetimes down on the time-dilated planet while Voyager is trapped, until they develop the tech to push the ship out of orbit. I was quite annoyed at the beginning of this episode because I think it was the third in a row that saw the Orville encountered an invisible space anomaly in the first five minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,687 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Decent finale, even though I literally saw every plot point coming as soon as the natives at the beginning said "Kelly". The only thing I didn't guess was Isaac staying down on the surface, but the rest was fairly predictable to anyone who watches Trek...including the relationship being doomed, and why. I did think for about 5 seconds that Palicki might have wanted out and they would just write Kelly out of the show by having her stay on the planet (which would be a heartbreaking resolution to the relationship issue) but nah. That would have taken BSG level courage in terms of storytelling. I agree with Jay that is was all resolved WAY to quickly, given the weight of what was occurring. At one point I checked the time and it had like 5 minutes left, and had no idea how they'd resolve it satisfactorily. They sort of did, but it would have been much better as a two parter (like several episodes). Maybe for season 2, if they're against doing a fully serialised show, they should consider mini-arcs of 2 or 3 episodes. All in all I really enjoyed season one, surprisingly more than almost any other new show I've watched this year. The show has a good hearted earnestness to it that's rare on TV. Really looking forward to season 2. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Right, I totally forgot to mention the Ed / Kelly romance subplot. Well, it wasn't done that well, I didn't think. I still can't quite figure out if they have good chemistry or not, but I definitely they've they've each had better chemistry with other characters (Charlize Theron and Rob Lowe) than with each other. If they had axed this subplot out of this episode, it would have given more time to flesh out the main story, too. I hope season 2 doesn't dwell on their romance much. I also noted that they stuck with LaMarr being chief engineer, in two different bridge scenes there were 2 different random extras in his old spot at the helm next to Malloy. I wonder if season 2 will bring a new permanent bridge character, or if the unaired for now episode 12 featured more about his transition down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Watched the final episode today. Definitely a very enjoyable new series! Bring on Part 2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 What do you think are the strongest and weakest aspects of the show, Pieter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 8 hours ago, Jay said: What do you think are the strongest and weakest aspects of the show, Pieter? Hmm... You're making me think there. Strong points, I reckon the generally good natured atmosphere, which is of course helped by the humour. Sometimes pretty clever points too. On the other hand, not all the humour works, especially the crude and childish bits. The characters are likeable though and respond in fairly human ways that you don't often see in shows like these. Special effects are exactly at the level I'd expect them at; not any excessive "wow" factor, but that only helps them support the story instead of distract from it. Plus having high quality orchestral music with a fun theme certainly helps too. (Where is an OST when you need one?) It is pretty much Star Trek, which I definitely like but is sometimes a bit slow and takes itself a bit too seriously. But here some Stargate style "we really don't care" humour is thrown in for good measure, which adds to the fun factor for me. Long story short: It's fun and entertaining, but not actually dumb despite some of the humour making it seem that way. Does that sound about fair...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Yes. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Yea! Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 The first piece of licensed Orville merchandise arrives on January 16th! Four-time Emmy Award winner Seth MacFarlane creates a new sci-fi dramedy universe on the Fox Network with his new show, The Orville. MacFarlane plays Captain Ed Mercer, an officer in the Planetary Union in the 25th century who gathers a crew from the farthest reaches of the galaxy—his ex-wife included—to man the exploration vessel Orville and patrol the mysteries of deep space. Filled with alien species, exotic worlds, futuristic technology and awe-inspiring spaceships, this lavish companion to The Orville takes you behind the scenes through concept art, on-set photography and technical schematics to explore the show’s production design, costumes, makeup prosthetics and visual effects. This is the ultimate guide to this new space-faring epic adventure. Jeff Bond is the author of Danse Macabre: 25 years of Danny Elfman and Tim Burton, and The Music of Star Trek. He was Executive Editor of Geek magazine and Senior Editor at CFQ, the revival of Cinefantastique magazine, from 2003 to 2006. He covers film music and other subjects for the Hollywood Reporter and has written hundreds of movie and television soundtrack liner notes booklets. Hardcover: 160 pages Publisher: Titan Books (January 16, 2018) Language: English ISBN-10: 1785657615 ISBN-13: 978-1785657610 Product Dimensions: 8.7 x 0.7 x 11.1 inches https://www.amazon.com/dp/1785657615 idril 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,585 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 The wife and I both love this show now...I think I'm gonna have to pick up that book! Pity it's not out before X-Mas because I think she'd actually be excited to get it. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 13-12-2017 at 9:00 PM, Jay said: The first piece of licensed Orville merchandise arrives on January 16th! Interesting. Written by a person who does a lot of soundtrack stuff too? Could that possibly mean good audible merchandise might follow...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Finally caught up with this during the week. Really enjoyed it. When it was announced, I expected a straight-up comedy. Didn't expect it to be as much like TNG as it is with loads of genuinely serious moments. Really looking forward to season 2. Although the first two seasons of TNG had some great episodes, most of it was pretty rubbish so I'd definitely say the season average of The Orville is higher than those first two seasons. It really does feel more like Star Trek than Discovery, and although Discovery has its moments, I think I look forward more to new Orville episodes. Given that Seth is a huge JW fan, I wonder did he approach JW to write the main theme? Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 On 12/15/2017 at 4:32 PM, Pieter_Boelen said: Interesting. Written by a person who does a lot of soundtrack stuff too? Could that possibly mean good audible merchandise might follow...? I wanna say yes. I think there was a post over at FSM where LLL mentioned something about it. And I think Seth Mcfarlane mentioned something as well about doing a cd of the 1st episode. 20 hours ago, Damien F said: Given that Seth is a huge JW fan, I wonder did he approach JW to write the main theme? John Williams recommended John Powell write the theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 52 minutes ago, El Jefe said: I wanna say yes. I think there was a post over at FSM where LLL mentioned something about it. And I think Seth Mcfarlane mentioned something as well about doing a cd of the 1st episode. Bring it on! But I hope they'll have music from the other episodes too. Several composers contributed good stuff that deserves to be heard, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Congrats to Broughton, McNeely, Debney.... and that other guy! https://www.facebook.com/ifmca/photos/a.426942827370839.104933.111384242260034/1773993199332455/?type=3&theater Pieter Boelen and Nick1Ø66 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Nice! Now give us that award-winning music to listen to as well!!! Award-winning label La-La Land Records can do it. dtw42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Just watched the final episode. WORDS. CANNOT. EXPRESS. MY. LOVE. FOR. THE. ORVILLE. I haven't been this into a show for many years. I am basically giddy with excitement waiting for the next episodes every week. I love it on the level of Stargate and Star Trek. Fantastic sci-fi, great stories, wonderful characters that are just damn fun to visit each week. I truly love everything about it. pete and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,281 Posted March 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2018 Yup, easily my favorite show of 2017, I can't wait for season 2, which incidentally they began filming this week. Also the score is great, I love that more and more all the time too, I hope that rumored album freaking happens soon, and they don't wait for the season 2 premiere to be near to release it Pieter Boelen, Yavar Moradi and leeallen01 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 I actually sit and hum the main theme loudly whenever the titles hit during an episode. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 I don't even like the theme as much as many of the individual episode's scores. The theme is fine, though. The episode scores are easily my favorite things I've ever heard from Debney and McNeely leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,687 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Orville > The Last Jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Since there still isn't an announcement about a soundtrack release yet (seriously, I'd expect one by now from such a music-loving producer!), here are the only two tracks that I did find: And this can serve as soundtrack cover: Still better than nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 They could just publish the midi-file. It wouldn't sound anymore synthetic than the score "recording"... Pieter Boelen and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 57 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: They could just publish the midi-file. It wouldn't sound anymore synthetic than the score "recording"... Huh? Sounds real enough to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Yeah, like in real sample library... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 There are pictures of the recording sessions. Orville episodes had real orchestral recordings for their scores. Just like all of MacFarlane’s shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,687 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: They could just publish the midi-file. I've been wondering...what are midi-files? igger6 and DarthDementous 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 33 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: There are pictures of the recording sessions. Orville episodes had real orchestral recordings for their scores. Just like all of MacFarlane’s shows. That doesn't mean that all the instruments are real. For TV shows it's not unheard of to mix real recordings with instrument samples. 31 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: I've been wondering...what are midi-files? It's explained in the appendix of JRR Tolkien's Unfinished Tales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,687 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's explained in the appendix of JRR Tolkien's Unfinished Tales. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Yeah, I bet you didn't expect that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 Didnt the Orville use an 80 piece orchestra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I guess so, on the specific day when they were gonna film the recording session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I don't know what Jurassic Shark is on about here. The Orville uses a huge orchestra to record full episode scores for every episode Disco Stu and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 It's just that it sounds kind of synthetic here and there. I guess it could have something to do with how it's recorded and processed afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 MacFarlane is going to get The Orville canceled with his anti-FOX rhetoric. Just wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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