Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 4 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: Agreed, but since I don't own the first score, I don't mind. It's like I get the highlights of the first one, AND some extras! Except "Harry's Wondrous World" the OST of the second film includes no rerecording that has already been released on the OST of the first film. On album you don't even notice that passages were reused and rerecorded, as the second album kind of completes the first one. So you have just the highlights of the first score that are unreleased on the first album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 On 6/3/2017 at 9:41 AM, Thor said: The third. It's the best Potter score (of them all), and really the last time we heard "classic" Williams. War Horse is utterly classic Williams from the first note to the last My favorite Potter score is the first one ultimately, but I truly love all three scores A LOT. COS continues to be criminally underrated around here and everywhere else, and POA is just brilliant. HPATSS just slightly edges out as being just so full of amazing melodies. It has the best villain music, too. But again, I love all three scores so much. Cerebral Cortex and Josh500 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 PS and CoS are almost on the same level for me. They're both that good. However, PoA is slightly better. 1 hour ago, Jay said: COS continues to be criminally underrated around here and everywhere else Took the words right out of my mouth. Fawkes the Phoenix and The Chamber of Secrets are masterpieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I agree with Stefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Heard Chamber Of Secrets in concert the other week, conducted by JW. Was bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Well, you guys prove out point, because that's exactly what Jay and I said! CoS is criminally underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 We're saying it's properly rated at less good than the other two Potters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I agree with Jay and Josh500 mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 So you, Jay and Josh think COS is on par with the other two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I think all 3 scores are great scores, indeed. And I only said COS was underrated, I did not say it was literally equal to SS & POA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 You are incorrect, CoS is NOT a great score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 COS is not as good as the other two, considering that much of it is actually taken from SS. But I love the new darker parts from the second score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Well, I personally think PS and CoS are almost equally good, when considering only the original music. However, CoS has some obvious problems, in how the score was handled in the movie.... But that doesn't mean the original music is bad, or even inferior. In fact, some of the setpieces from CoS are some of the best JW has written! Many people just don't notice this, and instead display an almost allergic reaction when it comes to CoS, and that's certainly undeserved. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 If you're not a particular fan of COS, I think it works nice to think of it as the second movement in a three-movement symphony Williams wrote for the Potter world, serving as the transitory element that maintains the lighter and warm fantasy aspects of the first film's score while hinting at the darker and more mature tones to come in the final act. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Cerebral Cortex said: If you're not a particular fan of COS, I think it works nice to think of it as the second movement in a three-movement symphony Williams wrote for the Potter world, serving as the transitory element that maintains the lighter and warm fantasy aspects of the first film's score while hinting at the darker and more mature tones to come in the final act. Hey I never thought of it that way before, but you're right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Josh500 said: PS and CoS are almost on the same level for me. They're both that good. However, PoS is slightly better. Hehehe... Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jay said: Hey I never thought of it that way before, but you're right! Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Hehehe... Damn auto correct! 😂 PoA, of course. 21 minutes ago, Cerebral Cortex said: If you're not a particular fan of COS, I think it works nice to think of it as the second movement in a three-movement symphony Williams wrote for the Potter world, serving as the transitory element that maintains the lighter and warm fantasy aspects of the first film's score while hinting at the darker and more mature tones to come in the final act. Sure, but if somebody's not especially partial to CoS (not me!), how is thinking like this gonna change one's opinion about it? They're just gonna think it's the "sucky" second movement of JW's Harry Potter symphony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Perhaps when viewed in that broader context, it may take on a different meaning or purpose to the listener and may be appreciated more as a result. For example, I think Back to the Future Part II is pretty okay just as a movie, especially when compared to the greatness of the first entry, but I feel like I appreciate it more when I think of it as the second act in a huge 6-hour Back to the Future film, and at least in that regard it works really quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Cerebral Cortex said: Perhaps when viewed in that broader context, it may take on a different meaning or purpose to the listener and may be appreciated more as a result. For example, I think Back to the Future Part II is pretty okay just as a movie, especially when compared to the greatness of the first entry, but I feel like I appreciate it more when I think of it as the second act in a huge 6-hour Back to the Future film, and at least in that regard it works really quite well. OK, I see your point. Yes, that's certainly possible, why not? Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 8 hours ago, Cerebral Cortex said: If you're not a particular fan of COS, I think it works nice to think of it as the second movement in a three-movement symphony Williams wrote for the Potter world, serving as the transitory element that maintains the lighter and warm fantasy aspects of the first film's score while hinting at the darker and more mature tones to come in the final act. I disagree, with the case of BTTFII (and that trilogy of scores) it's a clear movement of three parts, each reintroducing themes and building towards one whole picture. With the first three Potter scores it very much feels less cohesive and structured. HP1 was obviously the introduction to the thematic material then HP2 on the other hand feels like the brief was an afterthought of Williams' unavailability and his instructions to just repurpose material from the first score. Moving onto HP3, Cuaron further shook things up and we got a greater shift in tone and abandoning thematic material from the last two scores. The only thing that bridges the three scores is Hedwig's Theme! All this not to denigrate the score for Chamber of Secrets, which has one of my favourite Williams themes - Fawkes' Theme and some brilliant action music in the finale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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