Fancyarcher 350 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Hobbit Trilogy. The films are not that great, but they didn't disappointment me like the Star Wars prequels did, though ROTS is an entertaining enough to watch though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Theory: Lucas knew that there was no way his prequel trilogy films could match the hype created in the wake of the originals so he purposefully made the first 2 horrible so that the final installment would seem like a masterpiece by comparison. Will and John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Cerebral Cortex said: Theory: Lucas knew that there was no way his prequel trilogy films could match the hype created in the wake of the originals so he purposefully made the first 2 horrible so that the final installment would seem like a masterpiece by comparison. Then why was the last one so bad too? mstrox and A. A. Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 It wasn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 It's what I've been saying, ROTS has a strong sense of momentum in its favour, regardless of its efficient shooting and editing style, corny dialogue, bad acting, horrible blue/green screening and lapses in common sense logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 22 hours ago, Selina Kyle said: Yeah, just like Indiana Jones IV. No. That's exactly what BloodBoal refered to. The movie itself is good (not great), but nevertheless I hate it as a sequel of the Indiana Jones trilogy. 15 hours ago, I Need About Tree Fiddy said: Then why was the last one so bad too? Lucas still didn't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,738 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: Lucas still didn't get it. Ain't that the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romão 2,274 Posted June 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2017 There's a certain charm to the Prequel's ineptitude. It's like the makers of those movies were living in a world of their own. Their flaws, while many, are not generic Hollywood flaws. Their inept tone is quite unique. The Hobbit trilogy is one cliché after the other. Its flaws, of which are many, are pretty much common to most crappy movies of this sort. They are therefore much less unique. Many movies suck in the very same way as the hobbit movies. But not many, if any, movie can suck in the quite same tone as the prequels do. And besides, those were not needlessly streched into 3 movies nor were they based on a much loved book. Plus, they were scored by John Williams, and that's a major plus KK, Not Mr. Big and Jay 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Romão said: There's a certain charm to the Prequel's ineptitude. It's like the makers of those movies were living in a world of their own. Their flaws, while many, are not generic Hollywood flaws. Their inept tone is quite unique. You mean the same effect that is shown in Tim Burton's "Ed Wood"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I supose, that might be a apt comparision. In the prequels, there's none of the corporate cynism atached to lesser quality blockbusters, that tends to suggest the movie makers are in on the joke and know they are making crap. Profitable crap, but still crap. With the prequels, the feeling one gets is that there is a conviction and earnestness in the perception of the quality of the movie they are making. It makes it endearing. I find none of that in the hobbit, which just reeks of cynism and condescendence A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 There is no 'less unique' or 'more unique'. Something is either unique or it is not unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Quote There's a certain charm to the Prequel's ineptitude. It's like the makers of those movies were living in a world of their own. Their flaws, while many, are not generic Hollywood flaws. Their inept tone is quite unique. Perhaps, but that doesn't make then any less boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 KOTCS is NOT a good movie. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 It's not. Though it isnt nearly as awful as some people claim. Spielberg, even on complete auto-pilot does elevate it a bit, and Ford is fine when the script doesnt work against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 There are some fine elements in it, and seeing Marion again, is great, but...generally, you guys are right. (edit) actually, it's not bad...it's sad. It's sad to see a whole ocean of talent wasted on such a shoddily executed piece of work. That's the heartbreaking thing about it. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 KotCS was a pioneering work created by an automated director. It's the future of film making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 31 minutes ago, Richard said: It's sad to see a whole ocean of talent wasted on such a shoddily executed piece of work. That's the heartbreaking thing about it. You mean: The director of "Schindler's List", the composer of "Jurassic Park", and the actor of Han Solo, making a film that is just okay - Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull! But it can get worse: The director of "Speed", the composer of "Alien", and the actor of Oscar Schindler, making a film that is just awful - ??? John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 2:12 AM, BloodBoal said: You're more or less correct. Only partially so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just reading this thread for the first time now. Both trilogies are huge disappointment, because both of the trilogies that they are prequels to are so good. If I have to pick one, I'd say the Hobbit trilogy is better, because it has more individual scenes that are better and tons of great acting. And all the original scores are great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 No prequel bashing in this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 24 minutes ago, Evil-Lyn said: No prequel bashing in this post. They are very much worthy to be bashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 We have far more offensive material to bash these days such as Independence Day: Resurgence, Suicide Squad (especially The Joker) and Female Ghostbusters. The prequels look like masterpieces compared to the shit I've been subject to lately. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 29 minutes ago, Evil-Lyn said: We have far more offensive material to bash these days such as Independence Day: Resurgence, Suicide Squad (especially The Joker) and Female Ghostbusters. The prequels look like masterpieces compared to the shit I've been subject to lately. Feel free to bash those films elsewhere on these forums. This topic is a discussion thread for the Hobbit and Star Wars prequel trilogies, not for any of the films you mentioned above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I love the prequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Evil-Lyn said: I love the prequels. You have my pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasm[+]Donor. 75 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I have to agree with Evil Lyn. I think both trilogies are bashed mostly by fans, i ve seen people watching the 6 star wars and hobbit in a row and never complaining about one movie or how the two trilogies were different. I think nostalgia has to do a lot in all this, fans are way to biased about these. For some kids today, SW1 2 3 are the real ones so will be 7 8 9, the original trilogy is considered as bad. Would have the hobbit movies been done before LOTR im sure we will be bashing LOTR because its not like the 1st trilogy. Personally: SW 1 2 3 were not good enough: poor acting, bad story lines and these clear immaculate settings made the movies look like shinny peplums.. Lucas was the mastermind of this so I hold him responsible for that disaster. Jackson, for me tried to do his best, if you take into account the mess it was to get these movies done you d be more forgiving about the result. I read the book before the movies came out and believe me, if it had been adapted like the book was the result would have been far worse, at least he tried to expand the universe using material from other books. Even though CGI are way too much and BOFA is a mess, Im sure the studio has sth to do with that, Jackson granted more years he would have made visuals probably different. But the hobbit case is very special because people always complained about adaptations and that one was completely full, a good one giving birth to caracters that arent developed in the book. I still prefer them to have been done than still waiting for someone to tackle the subject. Holko and Brundlefly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 16 hours ago, Evil-Lyn said: We have far more offensive material to bash these days such as Independence Day: Resurgence, Suicide Squad (especially The Joker) and Female Ghostbusters. The prequels look like masterpieces compared to the shit I've been subject to lately. This is a good point. There's been some load of shite released in the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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