Brónach 1,302 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 One could argue that the other elements should have worked in the first place and that film music has to be something else than patchwork over mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 32 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: Or it can make up for sloppy film-making and acting and provide the emotion in a scene that the actor couldn't provide or create tension in a scene that the director couldn't create or give momentum and pace to the story that the script didn't have or give the impact to an important scene that all of them combined couldn't give it. Film scoring at its best can truly transform a film for the better - that if it is even given that chance. *cough* Star Wars prequels. *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 *cough* Star Wars original trilogy. *cough* Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2017 *cough* tickly throat *cough* Bilbo, Cerebral Cortex, Naïve Old Fart and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 *cough* Steven Spielberg films. *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,514 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 *cough* Titanic, and Always *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 The thing is, I really do have a bad cold. I’m just coughing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I'm sorry, bud. That's no fun. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 30 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: The thing is, I really do have a bad cold. I’m just coughing You must learn to channel your illness into something that creates value; next time you cough, try making passing insults at films that need music to give them a sense of worth. (Wish you the best in your recovery.) Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 So uncivilized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Elfman is attending the tribute concert to him in Vienna and talked briefly about the JL score (recorded last week in London). One tidbit had him talking about doing the mock-up for a "particularly moving sequence" and he persuaded the producers to hire a string orchestra to embellish the mock-up. http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=119077&forumID=1&archive=0 Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Weird idea to hire players to embellish a mockup when presumably the mockup is just temporary before you record the cue with the full orchestra anyway. I guess if the producers weren't completely sold on the cue yet. greenturnedblue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 That's pretty much it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2017 He could have been doing something difficult or impossible to render with samples, highly divided parts or something, and knew that he'd need the real thing to sell the idea to typically idiotic producers who can't see past the shortcomings of samples. toothless, MikeH and Arpy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 It seems Elfman's work on JL went pretty smoothly otherwise. Now I want soundtrack details... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Yeah he’s clearly 100% done or he wouldn’t be able to spend the whole week in Vienna. Details have to come soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Oh, it's coming out this year? Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 It's the most important score in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I fear it’s going to be quite a standard action blockbuster and won’t afford Elfman many opportunities to do much interesting. I’m really looking forward to hearing nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 If he doesn't deliver, we'll have final confirmation that Elfman now sucks. Funny book movies are his speciality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 3 hours ago, The Doctor said: If he doesn't deliver, we'll have final confirmation that Elfman now sucks. Funny book movies are his speciality. Don't you mean "Final Confrontation"? Pieter Boelen and Gruesome Son of a Bitch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fancyarcher 350 Posted September 28, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2017 New Elfman interview. Wait is he using the Williams Superman theme? http://www.billboard.com/amp/articles/news/7981630/danny-elfman-justice-league-joss-whedon-gus-van-sant-interview There are a few little fan moments. I instated a moment of the Wonder Woman theme that Hans Zimmer did for Batman Vs. Superman, but I also had two minutes where I had the pleasure of saying, “Let’s do John Williams’ Superman.” and that for me was heaven, because now I have a melody to twist, and I’m using it in an actually very dark way, in a dark moment. It’s the kind of thing that some fans will notice. Some won’t. It’s a moment where we’re really not sure whose side he’s on. The people at DC are starting to understand we’ve got these iconic bits from our past and that’s part of us, that’s part of our heritage -- we shouldn’t run away from that. Contemporary thinking is, every time they reboot something, you have to start completely from scratch -- which, of course, audiences will tell us again and again, is bullshit. Because the single-most surviving and loved theme in the world is Star Wars, which they had the good sense to not dump for the reboots. And every time it comes back, the audience goes crazy. Did you write new themes for such characters as Flash and Aquaman? I created very simple motifs. There are so many themes, you can’t just do a big theme for everything. So i created a motif for Flash, for Aquaman and Cyborg -- but they’re very simple things, and [DC] understood. I said, "These things may never be used again, but I’m giving you all the components, should you wish to have things to build on." So they either will or they won’t, but that’s how I approach a project like this. You have to take the attitude that this is the beginning of a mythology and it all matters, it all comes to fruition, and with any luck they will. I loved the people I worked with, they were wonderful. The DC guys were great. I kept talking about the DNA of John Williams in this other theme -- using the DNA of Batman in these other variations, which were not the Batman theme -- but it all derives from that... Musical themes are like genes, Holko, Arpy, crumbs and 7 others 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I like how he mentioned that created motif for Flash, Aquaman, and Cyborg. I'm not sure those characters really deserve just a motif (I'm wondering if the composer for Aquaman will discard it), but I'm interested to see how that plays out / development throughout the score. Also sounds like he wasn't forced to adapt his style, which is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Oh man! Williams' Superman Theme is coming back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 On 25/9/2017 at 10:33 PM, Disco Stu said: The thing is, I really do have a bad cold. I’m just coughing So you’re the one who gave me this cold? Ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted September 28, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2017 Thanks a lot for posting that, Fancyarcher. Already was looking forward to this score, but am even more so now. I've always liked and admired how Elfman likes playing with and using the themes that other composers have written just as much as he likes playing with his own, and the prospect of getting to hear him (if I'm reading correctly) play around with Williams' Superman theme is especially tantalizing. crumbs, Fancyarcher, toothless and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Yeah, he loves doing variations on other composers. And they are always interesting. Karol Fancyarcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2017 Key quote: Quote You’ve just been in London recording the score for Justice League. It’s been 28 years since you scored Batman. What was it like going back into the DC universe? It was great. It was like I never left because I’m using the same thematic material that I used back then. It never actually went away [Laughs.] It just was great fun. Confirmation that he's using his original Batman theme!! mstrox, Fancyarcher, crumbs and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Huh. After reading that interview snippet my interest in this score went up a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 What could be interesting is how he changes his original theme to fit this movie, which will be so different in style from Burton. Less gothic. Heh heh. Such a weird situation with this film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,000 Posted September 28, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2017 Love this quote about Whedon Quote It was the same as when I worked with him on Ultron. He appreciates melodies and pieces. He’s like, “Oh, you’ve given it identity here!” There was a moment where the Batmobile shoots out of a thing and he goes, “Go batshit crazy here! Batman the shit out of it!” When I’m using the Batman theme, I’m using the melodic sense of it, I’m wasn’t doing full-on Batman, and there’s a moment when he says, “No, right here, Full on!” I think they’re great and he loves doing little things like that that are pure fan excitement: “Do John Williams here, Batman the shit out of this moment.” He knows how fans think. Give them these little things and let them enjoy it Karol Holko, toothless, greenturnedblue and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 OMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, mstrox said: OMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Where's Flash theme? Guess it might be too similar to his Batman stuff. Karol Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Why bother with the Williams theme, shit is outdated as fuck and doesn't even come close to the MoS theme which is a far, far better theme for Supes. Elfman get yo old ass outta here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Yea we don't need these kind of rude gimmick accounts here. If you want to keep it post nicer things Bilbo and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I think Zimmer's theme was a pretty good theme for the Clark Kent presented in MoS and BvS, but not a very good theme for Superman - not even Snyder's version of Superman. Based on what we've seen, tonally, I agree that these themes as presented originally wouldn't necessarily fit. However, we don't know what Elfman is going to do. He mentions that he is twisting Williams' theme a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 13 minutes ago, Jay said: Yea we don't need these kind of rude gimmick accounts here. If you want to keep it post nicer things Not a gimmick, I'm dead serious. Rude to whom exactly? Elfman? Williams? I'm sure they'll be fine. "Stop saying stuff I don't agree with or I'll ban you"" Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I said nothing about your opinion, just your language used to express it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lord Zimmer said: "Stop saying stuff I don't agree with or I'll ban you"" Good to know. Trump age! A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 25 minutes ago, Lord Zimmer said: Elfman get yo old ass outta here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 13 minutes ago, Jay said: I said nothing about your opinion, just your language used to express it "If you want to keep it post nicer things" But, alright. Fine. Elfman, don't mess this up. Can't get worse than whatever Junkie did for BvS. But goddamn at those Whedon quotes man. And not to mention the stuff about Adam West Batman throwbacks.....this shits gonna be Batman & Robin territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Oh my God! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Awesome news! While I love MoS and generally don't think that Williams' Superman theme would fit the dark new DC universe, I have faith that Elfman will find a way to make it work (and if not, at the very least it'll be entertaining (unlike say, Rupert's Wonder Woman (zzzzzzzz))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Well, WW theme is in this score too. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Just now, crocodile said: Well, WW theme is in this score too. Karol Ew! Wait, his Wonder Woman theme or the Zimmer/XL (?) "jig". Either way is a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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