toothless 963 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 0:38 - 0:55 1:35 - 2:14 TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee 247 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 I lack the musical knowledge to really explain this, but Elfman and Shore just seem to favour similar progressions. Parts of Silence of the Lambs are very similar to Batman, while the quieter parts of Oz sound like the Shire parts of Lord of the Rings. It's probably why Shore scoring Ed Wood doesn't seem as odd in context as it might have done, or how Elfman channelling Shore in Red Dragon just sounds like Elfman. I don't think they're ever copying each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 With my previous post (Shore elfman) and the one before it (Hooper/muse), I think it's just unintentional similarities hence why I changed the title of this thread to better reflect that Nonetheless, both examples a quite striking at how similar they sound ddddeeee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 45 minutes ago, toothless said: think it's just unintentional similarities Indeed. I doubt The Hobbit was temped with anything other than The Lord of the Rings. At most, some other works of Shore may have been used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 From an IMAX film - I'll eat my hat if that wasn't temped with Dante's Peak. Not only the main theme but the whole cue structure from this point: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Richard Penna said: From an IMAX film - I'll eat my hat if that wasn't temped with Dante's Peak. Not only the main theme but the whole cue structure from this point: I just clicked play at the same time on both videos and it allmost sounds like one piece indeed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 When I listen to "Ravenna's Embrace" and more so with "We are worthy of each other" from JNH's The Huntsman, I get a feelings of "The face of pan" by Williams Just some similarities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Not temp track, but common use of samples. Also this melody: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Anyone else think the Ed Wood score is better than all subsequent Elfman Burton scores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2018 ? Cerebral Cortex, Holko and Evanus 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 2:51 AM, Horner's Dynamic Range said: Anyone else think the Ed Wood score is better than all subsequent Elfman Burton scores? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I love how parts of Dracula were the basis for the Cloud City music years later in TESB, sans choir. In fact I love how Dracula is one big unofficial Star Wars alts album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,525 Posted September 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2018 Azkaban is ruined forever, I don't even want it anymore! toothless, Will, Cerebral Cortex and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Can anyone point out the Mahler work that The Spark sounds like. It's the fifth symphony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Am I crazy or are the first 3 notes of WIlliams' Dracula theme a reversal of Bernard's iconic Dracula motif? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Listening to Marvel's Daredevil Season 3 soundtrack after watching the series and came across this little piece. It was either inspired by Remembering Petticoat Lane from Jurassic Park, or perhaps an homage to Williams... Partway through the track, Paesano introduces a small choir that also reminds me of another cue from Jurassic Park - Hatching Baby Raptor. Can anyone else hear the similarities? Luka and Evanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka 242 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I was listening to some opera when I heard something that reminded me of a track in Solo... It probably wasn't a temp track though haha Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I'm 30 seconds into Bram Stoker's Dracula. That's the Blood Ritual from Curse of the Black Pearl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Nothing wrong with self-stealing (in moderation). Just wanted to point this out. (0:26 - 0:41) (4:59 - 5:17) You may remember that the latter is my favorite part of my favorite score of 2017 ("don't @ me" as the kids say!) Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Was listening to Tintin today and heard a reoccurring motif that sounds a bit like The Fury (first heard it in “Marlinspike Hall”). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,281 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Yeah I remember that one didn’t fly by unnoticed here at the time. It pops up in BFG too weirdly enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I haven't been able to listen to Miracle's main theme without hearing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Okay so I'm not sure if this has been pointed out (I would think so because it's pretty blinking obvious) but this is it. That opening bit and... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I don't hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Not spot-on or anything but kinda both in the same spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 10:38 PM, Manakin Skywalker said: I don't hear it. It's the brass "dooooo doo doodoo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 When watching Home Alone 2, I noticed one of the chases uses the chase motif from Indy's Very First Adventure, another one is a prototype Fighting the Troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 That's the one from Tchaikovski, one of the Nutcracker waltzes. He must love that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 Strong resemblance between Thin Red Line and Arctic. A smaller one with Oblivion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJA 19 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 The above piece has a reoccuring section (it first appears at 0:07) with an uncannily similarity to two separate Mario Nascimbene film compositions: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 So with last year's Black Friday, we can employ the fairest comparison yet in the age-old debate: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1P9HEBrFO54ojgMssdgj8rW1f497uUGj2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 . Remco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 So I'm walking around and this comes up in my brain: https://picosong.com/wQPNe/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Gettysburg is on TCM right now. This moment in the main title immediately made me think of "Test Drive" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 The "heroic" motif from 1941 in Clark Loses his Nerve? How very Horner of Williams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 This isn't so much a similarity as a direct interpolation of the material, but I was listening to Mendelssohn's Midsummer Night's Dream last week and it was absolutely killing me thinking of what movie "Dance of Clowns" made me think of. I finally thought of it today: it was used in The Santa Clause (not credited in the film credits though). I'm guessing this was a result of temp love. Here's the music in context Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 That’s a good catch! I imagine if the music producer of the Santa clause ever saw this post, he/she’d be exasperated that they found the one guy on the interwebs who called them out on their oversight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Hmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Why not just license O Fortuna... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Beyond the Morricone, the theme from Yellowstone is effectively Quick and the Dead - perhaps massive homage or just, well, something, else. Play the key themes from Silvestri in your mind with this 'theme', slow it down, and well.....voila. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 You could have a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Don't believe there's anything more than coincidence here, but the connection was instantly made in my head: https://johndadlez.com/MP3/PlanetOfTheApesSoundtrackCollection/2 BENEATH/2_15_ASA.mp3 https://videakid.hu/videok/mese/tuskevar-4.-a-leskunyhoban-1967-magyar-ifjusagi-filmsorozat-GV7ZEkvMn0jp2iFi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Breaking! The Planet of the Apes series has utilized time travel for decades. But what if original composer Jerry Goldsmith was no stranger to time travel either? What if he went to the future and used the sounds of tomorrow to generate the celebrated music of his time? Want to know the answer? You may not like what you find. The source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 On 8/12/2019 at 1:35 PM, thestat said: Beyond the Morricone, the theme from Yellowstone is effectively Quick and the Dead - perhaps massive homage or just, well, something, else. Play the key themes from Silvestri in your mind with this 'theme', slow it down, and well.....voila. I'm not hearing anything beyond some vague melodic similarity. I like Tyler's scores for this series, but his main theme doesn't really do it for me. On 10/21/2018 at 1:02 AM, Arpy said: Listening to Marvel's Daredevil Season 3 soundtrack after watching the series and came across this little piece. It was either inspired by Remembering Petticoat Lane from Jurassic Park, or perhaps an homage to Williams... Partway through the track, Paesano introduces a small choir that also reminds me of another cue from Jurassic Park - Hatching Baby Raptor. Can anyone else hear the similarities? The first half of that was definitely temped with Petticoat Lane and Hatching Baby Raptor. Particularly from 1:30 - you can just picture Hammond looking solemnly towards the island, and even down to instrumentation at 2:38. The second half sounds more original, but man... they should've just licensed JW's cues for the first half. If ever i were in an editing situation I'd show the composer a copy of the film with a temp track once (so they knew what sort of thing I wanted) and then immediately replace the temp with the shittiest, tinniest stock music I could find (of a quality that no studio would put in a movie). That way, anything the composer produced would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Yes, it’s copy-and-paste. But it’s a TV-SHOW on NETFLIX on its 3RD SEASON. I don’t know how good we expect it to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, rough cut said: Yes, it’s copy-and-paste. But it’s a TV-SHOW on NETFLIX on its 3RD SEASON. I don’t know how good we expect it to be? Television is the dump of Film/Television Scoring. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Aaron Copland very lightly borrowing from a folk song for his Red Pony film score. A folk song that he later published his own arrangement of in the "Old American Songs" set. Copland borrowed from folk songs all the time of course, I mention this time only because about The Red Pony Copland said, “There are no quotations of folklore anywhere in the work.” Wrong! (0:40 - 0:47) (0:28 - 0:42) And here is Copland's own arrangement for voice & piano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 On 8/16/2019 at 11:01 PM, Not Mr. Big said: Television is the dump of Film/Television Scoring. I don't see why more TV doesn't just use library music. If the nature of the show means that the music isn't really prominent, there are better things for composers to spend their time on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 1:14 to 1:22 You guessed it… goes with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,436 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 So, I was listening to the Memoirs of a Geisha OST a few days ago, when this reminded me of this I don't think is very unlikely that Snow Falling on Cedars was used as temp for Geisha, but anyway, on the very same track, I discovered an unexpected surprise: the second half of the OST track, which, according to Jay's spreadsheet, corresponds to cue 6M5A The War Comes, is quite similar to The Immolation Scene from Revenge of the Sith! Just listen to this: And this I'm pretty sure this has been brought up by another JWFanner since 2005, but since I haven't listened to Geisha in years, this struck me as a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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