Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Of course everyone has at least three favorite composers and logically they made at least three enjoyable scores. But what about the scores that you do not really like (or like the least) ALTHOUGH they have been composed by one of your favorite composers? I'd like to know your three LEAST PREFERED scores by your three favorite composers. 1. JOHN WILLIAMS 1. Always 2. The BFG 3. Far and Away 2. JERRY GOLDSMITH 1. Along Came a Spider 2. Congo 3. Runaway 3. ENNIO MORRICONE 1. Mission to Mars 2. U-Turn 3. Face to Face (I don't know enough Morricone titles to say which ones are really his worst.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Hmm, I'll have to think about this for a bit. Figuring them out for Goldsmith will be a bitch because, even if I dislike a score overall from him, there is almost always at least one cue that I really dig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,708 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Relatively speaking, JW doesn't have any bad scores. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 I know it is not easy. Therefore "least prefered". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Mission to Mars is among my favorite Morricone scores Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 As I said, I know all JW scores post-Jaws and almost all JG scores post-Chinatown, but I hardly know a tenth of all EM scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Romão said: Mission to Mars is among my favorite Morricone scores Yes! The only score I really dislike that is high profile enough to mention is Hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Romão said: Mission to Mars is among my favorite Morricone scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 'U-Turn' and 'Faccia a Faccia' are great, as well. Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I still don't know what to make of the BFG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 It's just boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,330 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 John Williams should be impeached, I mean, retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 John Williams: 1. The BFG 2. The Adventures of Tintin 3. The Book Thief Michael Giacchino: 1. Doctor Strange 2. Zootopia (or Zootropolis) 3. Inside Out - catchy theme, bizarre and unlistenable score. Howard Shore - The Hobbit Trilogy Brilliant music all-round, but ultimately it's a challenge to get through and not as immediate and memorable as his prior LotR scores. I still listen to each of them as often as I can, parts are beginning to grow on me and I'm sure after more listens I'll have a better opinion of them. Here they are in order from my favourite to least favourite in the context of this thread: 1. The Desolation of Smaug 2. An Unexpected Journey 3. The Battle of the Five Armies ps. - I love cues and moments from each score, but as a whole are my least favourite, either they're just not as memorable or engaging, or there really only are a few things I personally enjoyed. If you love and adore any of them, I'm not going to bash you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 1. John Williams a) JOHN GOLDFARB PLEASE COME HOME b) THE BOOK THIEF c) THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE 2. Danny Elfman a) AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON b) MEN IN BLACK 3 c) ALICE THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS 3. Elliot Goldenthal a) ROSWELL b) THE TEMPEST c) PET SEMATARY (not a bad score, but it freaks me out every time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Alice Through the Looking Glass was one of the most boring and disappointing scores I'd ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Wait until you hear Justice League! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I shudder the thought. Should have just coerced Hans Zimmer for one more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 43 minutes ago, Sally Spectra said: Alice Through the Looking Glass was one of the most boring and disappointing scores I'd ever heard. Especially because the score for the first movie is so brilliant! The only good thing about the LOOKING GLASS score was "Alice's Theme", but that's a leftover from the first anyway. I don't like Elfman in big action blockbuster/superhero mode these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Williams: Book Thief Sleepers Seven Years in Tibet Elfman: Big Eyes Taking Woodstock Wisdom Gia: Tomorrowland Dawn of the Planet of the Apes of the Dawn of the Planet of the Dawn of the Apes Star Trek into Dankness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Gia top three??? Hey Troxell! Fuck you! mstrox and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I probably have more Gia scores than anybody outside of Elfman and Williams, both of whom I keep complete collections. I could have replaced him with Zimmer, who I like about as well (although I don't like anything of Zimmer's as much as I like, say, Speed Racer, The Incredibles, Up, or Super 8). I have a bunch of Goldsmith, but honestly that was more of an early film score listener's attempt to TRY to like Goldsmith despite never really liking Goldsmith. Every other composer, I kind of pick up based on whether I like the score in-movie or not, and it's pretty rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Gia but not Goldsmith? You are dead to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I like Goldsmith when I have positive attachment to the movies (Gremlins 1/2, The Mummy), but a lot of the "classics" leave me cold - Poltergeist, The Omen, POTA, etc etc. I think the only Goldsmith score I'd throw on besides the three mentioned above would be maybe Star Trek TMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Did you just spill my beer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Shudder at his favourites! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Point at him and laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 This bloke gets his own thread? mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Somebody tell Goldsmith that it's OK - they can't all be Spider-Man Homecoming-caliber scores! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Them's fightin' words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Apropos of nothing, you know what would be a nice forum feature? The ability to block specific threads from ever being marked as having unread posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 4 hours ago, mstrox said: Williams: Sleepers Elfman: Wisdom Whoa! These are actually some of my favourite scores by each composer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I'm the master of controversy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 You're a butt. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I know I'm gonna get slapped down for this, but... Williams: SCHINDLER'S LIST FAR AND AWAY JURASSIC PARK. Your move JWfaners. Come on...Come on!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 He, he.....a joke, I presume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 A joke. A story with a humorous climax. Thor, I'm deadly serious. SCHINDLER'S LIST is gratuitous schmaltz, JURASSIC PARK is the Emperor's new clothes, and FAR AND AWAY is so chock full of faux Oirishisms, it's insulting. This is, of course, just three film scores from a composer whose collected works are nigh-on worshiped, by yours truly. The thread title says "The Flop Three". These are mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 Always is no schmaltz? Yet there were three people that got the thread's demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Of course it is. ALWAYS is unashamed schmaltz, but it's schmaltz with integrity. SL has lofty ideals, but it punches far above its weight. It's the listen-to-this-it'll-change-your-life context I abhor. It's dishonest, and that's why I don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 42 minutes ago, Richard said: A joke. A story with a humorous climax. Thor, I'm deadly serious. SCHINDLER'S LIST is gratuitous schmaltz, JURASSIC PARK is the Emperor's new clothes, and FAR AND AWAY is so chock full of faux Oirishisms, it's insulting. This is, of course, just three film scores from a composer whose collected works are nigh-on worshiped, by yours truly. The thread title says "The Flop Three". These are mine. Alrighty, then. I'm not going to berate you or anything, but for me, they are obviously all the very best of John Williams. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Richard said: Of course it is. ALWAYS is unashamed schmaltz, but it's schmaltz with integrity. SL has lofty ideals, but it punches far above its weight. It's the listen-to-this-it'll-change-your-life context I abhor. It's dishonest, and that's why I don't like it. Yeah Wojciech Kilar should have scored it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I think Always gets bashed more than the Star Wars prequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Always hardly ever gets mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Williams is not a flop person. At worst, he's boring and WASP-ish. Though i would have to single out 'Stanley & iris' as a really poor score - the underscore sounds as if Williams never learned to write chamber music, a lot of half-finished sketches still waiting for a final draft. But then, 'S&I' is a rather poor and insubstantial movie, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Poor films are no excuse for poor accompanying music. Jerry Goldsmith proved that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Goldsmith's richest flop phase was also round that time. And i count more than three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, publicist said: Williams is not a flop person. At worst, he's boring and WASP-ish. Though i would have to single out 'Stanley & iris' as a really poor score - the underscore sounds as if Williams never learned to write chamber music, a lot of half-finished sketches still waiting for a final draft. But then, 'S&I' is a rather poor and insubstantial movie, so... Williams doesn't have a lot of "what the hell was he thinking" films in his filmography. Not after he became big. I would say that Heartbeeps is the only one. Even SpaceCamp is just boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 7 hours ago, Thor said: Alrighty, then. I'm not going to berate you or anything, but for me, they are obviously all the very best of John Williams. Thank you, Thor, for not biting my head off. Its easy to dismiss a "bad" score, that's associated with a "bad" film (BFG, THE BOOK THIEF, HEARTBEEPS), but one is going to encounter far more flac, if one sticks one's head above the parapet, and criticises a "great" score, from a "great" film (SCHINDLER'S LIST, JURASSIC PARK). It goes against the grain, against popular opinion, and it's bound to rub people up the wrong way. Many JWfaners like these scores. I don't necessarily dislike them; they just don't do much for me. At the end of the day, though, its just a parlour-game, one of many played on this site. Long may these games continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 The BFG is not a bad film! mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I know. That's why I said "bad". Nothing more complicated than perception... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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