publicist 4,643 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Play it after 'Swing Swing Swing'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 7 hours ago, crumbs said: I can't stand his insistence on pushing this sound. It's all over the Rathtars track as well; just meandering, percussive noise. The worst offender is the start of Clash of the Cranes. Irritating, aimless noise. I was going to mention that, but it gets a bit better after the opening. Although not enough for the track to be in my playlist. Never liked the Rathtars either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 The best version of Princess Leia's Theme is in the Revenge of the Sith end credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,520 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 9 hours ago, crumbs said: I can't stand his insistence on pushing this sound. It's all over the Rathtars track as well; just meandering, percussive noise. The worst offender is the start of Clash of the Cranes. Irritating, aimless noise. I've heard of CLASH OF THE CRANES, but what's RATHTARS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Rathar is the name of a creature in The BFG. They're also known under the name "Dream Eaters". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,520 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Ah! Thank you, Blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 You're welcome. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 It is a wonderful track in TFA, very wild and riteofthespringish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,892 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Prisoner of Azkaban is my least favorite JW Harry Potter score. I don't dislike it, it's just my least favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 It's middling for me. It's got some highlights (Buckbeak's Flight), but also some of the dullest musical moments of the entire 3 scores. I'm looking at you, Saving Buckbeak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I like The Rathtars too! I prefer Across the Stars over Han Solo and the Princes Theme! If this thread had been a contest, Manakin Skywalker would have been the winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 The Force Awakens is the weakest Star Wars score. Home Alone 2 > Home Alone. Jaws 2 is on the same level as Jaws. The Book Thief is among Williams' best works of the last 20 years. The first Harry Potter score is one of Williams' most uninspired works of his career. The same applies to the first half of Hook. CE3K > any Star Wars score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ricard said: The first Harry Potter score is one of Williams' most uninspired works of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 21 minutes ago, Ricard said: Home Alone 2 > Home Alone. The only one I agree with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 35 minutes ago, Ricard said: CE3K > any Star Wars score. That I can drink to. 10 hours ago, Quintus said: I never particularly got into Temple of Doom outside of Parade of the Slave Children. It's a score I ignored as an album of music. Funnily enough that's the one cue from Temple that I usually skip. I'm not sure why, but something about it rubs me the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,892 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Speaking of The Rathtars, I've spent the past decade+ memorizing every note of JW's Star Wars scores, and The Rathtars is the only cue that I cannot memorize. I can listen to it ten times in a row, and completely forget what I just heard once it's over. There's absolutely zero structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Speaking of The Rathtars, I've spent the past decade+ memorizing every note of JW's Star Wars scores, and The Rathtars is the only cue that I cannot memorize. I can listen to it ten times in a row, and completely forget what I just heard once it's over. There's absolutely zero structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 It doesn't help the track's structure that it's an amalgamation of, what, 3 cues (Han Solo Returns/Rathtars/Escape in the Falcon)? Complete with microedits of each cue, unused music and an alternate. Not that the music in complete form is much better; it's jarring in the film. At least we got You're Han Solo from the Lego game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted July 26, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2017 22 minutes ago, crumbs said: At least we got You're Han Solo from the Lego game. And I'm Han Solo from the Star Wars Kinect game. crumbs, Arpy, Loert and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 4 hours ago, Disco Stu said: The only one I agree with But it loses the charm the first one had by pumping up the orchestration. I really like than chamber music aspect of HA1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 20 hours ago, Sharky said: Funnily enough that's the one cue from Temple that I usually skip. I'm not sure why, but something about it rubs me the wrong way. ToD is my favourite score but I'm not crazy about that track either. To me it sounds like Williams going "Alright, listen up chaps, you hear that field drum? That's right, you're about to watch a very important scene in this film. Are you all sitting comfortably? Good, I present unto you...my Slave Children's Theme!" In other words, it's a tad obnoxious. However, I think the moments in film where the children are wrecking the dining table and escaping the palace are stellar. This section from the credits is just irresistible: Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Isn't that the only moment where this theme plays, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Well, the theme itself is hinted at a few times beforehand in the film, sometimes in a warped state (for example when Indy first discovers the mine after taking the Sankara Stones). In the track itself, it also comes in right after the introduction. That's the instance I find slightly obnoxious. Besides, all the other open fifths are pretty boring, and some of the shrieking violins are very irritating. My point is, the short grand statements of the theme when we see the children running work well in film, but the end credits version I linked to is the one that really satisfies me musically because of its definite ending. But that doesn't appear in the Slave Children's Crusade track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 It's a great theme. I would fall on my knees for Williams writing another one like it in his lifetime. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Absolutely, it's one of my favourite themes of his, it's just the first short portion of the track that irks me slightly, and the other plodding bits I mentioned. The rest of the score...11/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,353 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I don't know if I have any opinions of John Williams that are unpopular, as all opinions of his music get shared on this forum eventually. I guess I am one of the few that considers HPCOS to be a really great score and not just a rehash of HP1, though. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,313 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 The Chamber of Secrets theme is superb. So is Fawkes. And The Flying Car. He was on fire writing themes for that film, despite the time pressure. Holko and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I've never liked the Fawkes theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Loert said: To me it sounds like Williams going "Alright, listen up chaps, you hear that field drum? That's right, you're about to watch a very important scene in this film. Are you all sitting comfortably? Good, I present unto you...my Slave Children's Theme!" Exactly! And that's one of the cue's virtues IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: I guess I am one of the few that considers HPCOS to be a really great score and not just a rehash of HP1, though. I like HP2 more than HP1. If HP1 gets 10 points, HP2 gets the points of HP1 and 5 extra points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The beginning of Slave Children's Crusade might be one of my all time favorite Spielberg/Williams combinations of visuals and music. I also like the Rathtars. I didn't think these were necessarily unpopular opinions but I guess they are here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Yes, it is very rare to have two positive opinions about John in a row here in this forum. My unpopular opinion is that this decade is one of john's strongest, maybe the strongest. Quality time. And The Book Thief is his second best score after CE3K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Seriously dude, you need to stop drinking. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Why do you say so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 12 hours ago, Loert said: ToD is my favourite score but I'm not crazy about that track either. To me it sounds like Williams going "Alright, listen up chaps, you hear that field drum? That's right, you're about to watch a very important scene in this film. Are you all sitting comfortably? Good, I present unto you...my Slave Children's Theme!" In other words, it's a tad obnoxious You don't like his trademark set pieces? First JW fan I've ever known who doesn't like them. Seems incompatible actually. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 45 minutes ago, Quintus said: You don't like his trademark set pieces? First JW fan I've ever known who doesn't like them. Seems incompatible actually. Uhm...what? When did I ever say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Quintus said: You don't like his trademark set pieces? First JW fan I've ever known who doesn't like them. Seems incompatible actually. The Asteroid Field is probably rubbish too these days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smaug The Iron 513 Posted July 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2017 The force awakens score is better then any of the prequels score. DominicCobb, Joni Wiljami and Holko 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I doubt that's an unpopular opinion, at least around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I dunno, there are a lot of prequelniks around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 TFA wishes it was as good as the prequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The lack of farts/fart interaction in The BFG represents one of the greatest missed opportunities in recent film score history. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Yes, it is, because it's a wrong opinion. Ricard and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Bilbo Skywalker, why are are you liking all the post regarding my sad drinking habbits? I'm going to defend my opinion of 2010 after I have had some strong drinks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 He's a serial liker. I only post here for the Bilbo likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Is he even worse than Will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: The lack of farts/fart interaction in The BFG represents one of the greatest missed opportunities in recent film score history. I was honestly pretty disappointed all the farts were unscored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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