Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Alien is furthermore one of the least redundant scores! There are some special editions you should have even if you're no completist. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 56 minutes ago, publicist said: 'Hypersleep', for instance. Absolutely essential. True - I'd already forgotten that this was painfully missing on the original album. One of the most identifiable moments from the score, and one of the few obvious ones (to a non-score listener, I would assume), aside from The Landing, that were actually used in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gps 8 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 On 25.07.2017 at 4:40 PM, Josh500 said: Which JG must-haves are still missing from my collection? I have my eye on Planet of the Apes, Chinatown, Capricorn One, and Gremlins. Any other recommendations? Also how many do you own? Alien 2 CD Basic Instinct Basic Instinct 2 CD Capricorn One Caprocorn One OST Chinatown Chinatown LE First Knight 2 CD L.A. Confidential Star Trek The Motion Picture Star Trek The Motion Picture 3 CD Star Trek V 2 CD Star Trek First Contact Star Trek First Contact LE Star Trek Insurrection Star Trek Insurrection LE Star Trek Nemesis Star Trek Nemesis 2 CD The Blue Max 2 CD The Ghost and The Darkness 2 CD The Mummy The Russia House The Shadow 2 CD The Wind and the Lion 2 CD Total Recall 2 CD So 37 if I counted correctly. Plus several Start Trek TV CDs where he provided main themes. And my personal favoutite JG score is The Russia House. So it is highly recommended - closely followed by ST Insurrection and ST First Contact. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 The Russia House is an excellent score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 17 hours ago, Brundlefly said: Alien is furthermore one of the least redundant scores! There are some special editions you should have even if you're no completist. Great point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 I'm desperately trying to find The Russia House on CD. I know the score, which is definitely a JG masterpiece. That's not been expanded, though, right? It just occurred to me.... A very little known Jerry Goldsmith gem that nobody ever mentions is Malice. The title track alone is worth the price of the CD. Wonderful and unforgettable little piece. Check this out: 2 hours ago, gps said: Alien 2 CD Basic Instinct Basic Instinct 2 CD Capricorn One Caprocorn One OST Chinatown Chinatown LE First Knight 2 CD L.A. Confidential Star Trek The Motion Picture Star Trek The Motion Picture 3 CD Star Trek V 2 CD Star Trek First Contact Star Trek First Contact LE Star Trek Insurrection Star Trek Insurrection LE Star Trek Nemesis Star Trek Nemesis 2 CD The Blue Max 2 CD The Ghost and The Darkness 2 CD The Mummy The Russia House The Shadow 2 CD The Wind and the Lion 2 CD Total Recall 2 CD So 37 if I counted correctly. Plus several Start Trek TV CDs where he provided main themes. And my personal favoutite JG score is The Russia House. So it is highly recommended - closely followed by ST Insurrection and ST First Contact. Nice collection! Two essentials are missing, however. Poltergeist and Rambo First Blood II. Display Name 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 ...and LOGAN'S RUN, and THE OMEN TRILOGY, and ISLANDS IN THE STREAM, and RAMBO III, and THE BOYS FROM BRAZIL, and THE FIRST GREAT TRAIN ROBBERY, and LEGEND, and SUPERGIRL. Display Name 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 And Masada...and Patton... Display Name 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 ...and PLANET OF THE APES, and PAPILLON, and FREUD, and OUTLAND, and THE SECRET OF N*I*M*H, and UNDER FIRE, and HOOSIERS, and THE CHALLENGE, and TORA! TORA! TORA!... Display Name 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 ...and RUDY, and THE 13TH WARRIOR, and THE SUM OF ALL FEARS, and HOLLOW MAN, and MAGIC, and THE SWARM, and TWILIGHT ZONE: THE MOVIE, and GREMLINS, and GREMLINS 2, and SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY... Display Name 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display Name 60 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 There's never enough Goldsmith! The only score I don't like is The Russia House. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 This guy's profile picture is a couple played by Sean Connery and Michelle Pfeiffer. I guess it's irony. Is it irony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display Name 60 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted July 29, 2017 Author Share Posted July 29, 2017 Maybe he's a troll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Guys, don't be douchebags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I own none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I should hope not. You're male, aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Maybe he's one of those Democrats who thinks all Russians are spies or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 He's a prevert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 He sucks his own dick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display Name 60 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I must urge you to exercise caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, Display Name said: I must urge you to exercise caution. ...said the guy who hasn't yet revealed whether he does really not like Russia House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 The Russia House is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I like THE RUSSIA HOUSE, both film and score, and that's all I have to say on the matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Thread should be retitled bottlecaps. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gps 8 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 On 28.07.2017 at 6:59 PM, Josh500 said: I'm desperately trying to find The Russia House on CD. I know the score, which is definitely a JG masterpiece. That's not been expanded, though, right? Nice collection! Two essentials are missing, however. Poltergeist and Rambo First Blood II. Thanks for your recommendations. I'll Keep them in mind... I got Russia House not that long ago regularly from Amazon. It's a pity it became difficult to get. About the complete issue: not sure there. But I seem to remember reading somewhere that JG for Russia House actually wanted a shorter release, but in that case the Company overruled him. So it *might* be quite complete. If there is more music then this one really calls for the EE-Treatment! Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 Today I went shopping for more Goldsmith CDs. I came back with 4 CDs, none of them Goldsmith, however: LOTR Return of the King, Only You (Rachel Portman), an old John Williams and the BPO album, and Batman OS (Danny Elfman). Not bad, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I have one last recommendation to you: Don't buy the OSTs of the following titles, cause their album presentations lack too much music or it doesn't represent the score very well (IMO): 1 Alien 2 Star Trek: The Motion Picture 3 Gremlins 4 Poltergeist II: The Other Side 5 Rambo III 6 Star Trek V: The FInal Frontier 7 Total Recall 8 The Shadow 9 The Ghost and the Darkness Their OSTs are all insufficient, especially Gremlins and Rambo III. In the case of number 2, 4 and 7 there are expansions that are still made for a classic listening experience. All of them are worth having the complete scores of them, as they're all among Jerry's best and none of them is very redundant. However, this is up to you and depends on your fandom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 36 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: I have one last recommendation to you: Don't buy the OSTs of the following titles, cause their album presentations lack too much music or it doesn't represent the score very well (IMO): 1 Alien 2 Star Trek: The Motion Picture 3 Gremlins 4 Poltergeist II: The Other Side 5 Rambo III 6 Star Trek V: The FInal Frontier 7 Total Recall 8 The Shadow 9 The Ghost and the Darkness Their OSTs are all insufficient, especially Gremlins and Rambo III. In the case of number 2, 4 and 7 there are expansions that are still made for a classic listening experience. All of them are worth having the complete scores of them, as they're all among Jerry's best and none of them is very redundant. However, this is up to you and depends on your fandom. I wouldn't listen to Brundlefly regarding Alien and STTMP. They have great OSTs and Alien in particular is a more interesting listening experience than the C&C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Completely disagree with you 100% The Intrada Alien and LLL Star Trek TMP are essential purchases - and both include the full OST program anyway. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I agree with Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I agree with Disco Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Don't look at me. I think these people are completely nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 7 hours ago, Brundlefly said: I have one last recommendation to you: Don't buy the OSTs of the following titles, cause their album presentations lack too much music or it doesn't represent the score very well (IMO): 1 Alien 2 Star Trek: The Motion Picture 3 Gremlins 4 Poltergeist II: The Other Side 5 Rambo III 6 Star Trek V: The FInal Frontier 7 Total Recall 8 The Shadow 9 The Ghost and the Darkness Their OSTs are all insufficient, especially Gremlins and Rambo III. In the case of number 2, 4 and 7 there are expansions that are still made for a classic listening experience. All of them are worth having the complete scores of them, as they're all among Jerry's best and none of them is very redundant. However, this is up to you and depends on your fandom. Thanks for the advice! You say the OSTs are all insufficient. Well, that stands to reason. The OSTs don't contain as much music as the Expanded Versions, by definition. Still, I like OSTs. They have their own unique value. It's what the public got to see and hear first, it's what the composer released first, to present us their music, trimming down the whole score for a concert like suite.... On your list, I already own 1, 2, 7, and 9. I will get the Alien expanded album as well. Of the others I'm not so sure. I'm rather content with my Total Recall and Ghost in the Darkness OST albums. Even if I got the expanded versions, it would mostly be for the sake of adding to my collection, and I kinda doubt I would listen to these very often.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Josh500 said: Thanks for the advice! You say the OSTs are all insufficient. Well, that stands to reason. The OSTs don't contain as much music as the Expanded Versions, by definition. Still, I like OSTs. They have their own unique value. It's what the public got to see and hear first, it's what the composer released first, to present us their music, trimming down the whole score for a concert like suite.... On your list, I already own 1, 2, 7, and 9. I will get the Alien expanded album as well. Of the others I'm not so sure. I'm rather content with my Total Recall and Ghost in the Darkness OST albums. Even if I got the expanded versions, it would mostly be for the sake of adding to my collection, and I kinda doubt I would listen to these very often.... To some listeners the problem is that some scores have either a 30 minute OST or even less music or a 70 minute C&C or even more music. There is nothing in the middle like a decent 50 minute listening experience. Gremlins for example has a 15 min OST, but if you want more music you'll have to buy the complete thing. It's similar with Rambo III and The Shadow. It's either too little or too much music. So all people that are no crazy completists like me have to decide what they'd rather have. But if you say you would probably not listen to the C&C very often you know what to purchase. By the way, The Ghost and the Darkness OST is totally fine in length. Nevertheless only 15% of the actual movie score were included. The OST has many re-recordings that are far lighter sounding. I was personally quite overwhelmed of the overall darker tone of the film score which I now prefer, therefore I included it on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel P. 738 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Hello everyone! I have been lurking here regularly since a year 2001 and finally decided to register. Ironically, the first composer I write about is Jerry Goldsmith I'm lucky to have 206 of his albums (on CD) (and 180 by John Williams - who is my favorite artist of all time, even beat Black Sabbath, Metallica and Queen in this category. Jerry Goldsmith is almost the first ) I hope I can occasionally share some of my observations with you, which you find meaningful or interesting. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 14 hours ago, Jay said: Completely disagree with you 100% The Intrada Alien and LLL Star Trek TMP are essential purchases - and both include the full OST program anyway. Yes they're included. But I still think they're better listening experiences than the complete scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Thor? Is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Thor? Is that you? Thor would never say the complete scores to The Shadow or Independence Day are a better listening experience than the OST as I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 The OST of ID4 is all you need really. Especially if you have the Gold Edition! Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Pawel P. said: Hello everyone! I have been lurking here regularly since a year 2001 and finally decided to register. Ironically, the first composer I write about is Jerry Goldsmith I'm lucky to have 206 of his albums (on CD) (and 180 by John Williams - who is my favorite artist of all time, even beat Black Sabbath, Metallica and Queen in this category. Jerry Goldsmith is almost the first ) I hope I can occasionally share some of my observations with you, which you find meaningful or interesting. Welcome! Well, go ahead! What are your observations? After all, you have 206 Goldsmith albums... So what are your favourites or recommendations? 6 hours ago, Brundlefly said: To some listeners the problem is that some scores have either a 30 minute OST or even less music or a 70 minute C&C or even more music. There is nothing in the middle like a decent 50 minute listening experience. Well, many scores from the mid eighties onward do. I think 40-50 minutes is just fine. Poltergeist, Basic Instinct, Total Recall, etc. You got the main theme, plus a few highlights, maybe a few tracks of underscore. If there are cues that I absolutely need to have that's not on the OST, then I get the expanded version. But again, this applies only for non-JW composers. When it comes to JW, I usually get everything that comes out... OSTs, expanded albums, even compilations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel P. 738 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Josh500 said: Welcome! Well, go ahead! What are your observations? After all, you have 206 Goldsmith albums... So what are your favourites or recommendations? Well, tough question, because in my case the reception of music depends on the so-called disposition of the day But if I should put on absolutely favorite, the list is below. This is not the most original choice, I’m aware of that, but that's not the point. Of course, that doesn't mean that I mostly listen to these albums. Favorites tend to go to my player very rarely, because I know them best. Basic Instinct Chinatown First Knight The Ghost and The Darkness Islands In The Stream Legend The Mummy Night Crossing The Omen The Final Conflict: Omen III Papillon Poltergeist QB VII First Blood Rudy Russia House Star Trek The Motion Picture Star Tek V: The Final Frontier Total Recall Under Fire I fell in love with Goldsmith’s music in 1995, when I bought the cassette tapes of ‘First Kinight’ and ‘Congo’, and little later ‘Legend’ on CD, relased by Silva Screen. To this day it is one of my beloved scores. His music is phenomenally beautiful to me, courageous and timeless. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 47 minutes ago, Pawel P. said: Well, tough question, because in my case the reception of music depends on the so-called disposition of the day But if I should put on absolutely favorite, the list is below. This is not the most original choice, I’m aware of that, but that's not the point. Of course, that doesn't mean that I mostly listen to these albums. Favorites tend to go to my player very rarely, because I know them best. Basic Instinct Chinatown First Knight The Ghost and The Darkness Islands In The Stream Legend The Mummy Night Crossing The Omen The Final Conflict: Omen III Papillon Poltergeist QB VII First Blood Rudy Russia House Star Trek The Motion Picture Star Tek V: The Final Frontier Total Recall Under Fire I fell in love with Goldsmith’s music in 1995, when I bought the cassette tapes of ‘First Kinight’ and ‘Congo’, and little later ‘Legend’ on CD, relased by Silva Screen. To this day it is one of my beloved scores. His music is phenomenally beautiful to me, courageous and timeless. Absolutely agree! Well, the original thing of this list that you excluded Alien which is apparently very popular. Oh, and you included Night Crossing and Legend. Such awesome hidden gems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Night Crossing and Legend, hidden gems? They are both discussed quite frequently on film score messageboards in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Yeah, Legend appears in many peoples' lists of top Goldsmith scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 Gotta be honest, I've never even heard of the movie Legend before now. But listening to it now... First impression? Otherworldly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 It's Goldsmith's greatest "magical" score IMO. Edging out NIMH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 Is this one of those scores where you need to see the movie in order to "get it"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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