Nick1Ø66 4,711 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 40 minutes ago, Jay said: No it isn't. Specialty is not the word you're looking for. Richard can go about his business. Move along. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Am I the only one who sells the OSTs and Expansions, when there is a Complete Score? Now I have more Goldsmith albums (66) than Williams albums (64), which makes me think about who is my favourite composer. I have all Williams stuff I need except the Stanley and Iris Deluxe Edition, but there are still plenty of Goldsmith CDs that I need. The most of them are those unpayable ones: Logan's Run Coma (OOP) Masada (OOP) Innerspace (OOP) Lionheart (OOP) Leviathan (OOP) Matinee Chain Reaction Mulan The Last Castle The Sum of All Fears (OOP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: I buy every single JW, JG, JH, MG, and DE album the specialty labels put out. I think I have around 2,000 physical CDs That's quite a collection. 2,000 CDs... Are these all film music? Or do you also collect other music? Jazz, Pop, Rock, Classical, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Who is "DE"? Deluxe Edition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 9 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: Am I the only one who sells the OSTs and Expansions, when there is a Complete Score? Now I have more Goldsmith albums (66) than Williams albums (64), which makes me think about who is my favourite composer. I have all Williams stuff I need except the Stanley and Iris Deluxe Edition, but there are still plenty of Goldsmith CDs that I need. The most of them are those unpayable ones: Logan's Run Coma Masada Innerspace Lionheart Leviathan Matinee Chain Reaction Mulan The Last Castle The Sum of All Fears I have never even once sold a JW album. Just feels wrong to me. Besides, those old original soundtrack albums and CDs have an invaluable nostalgic value. I love those short (usually around 30 minutes) soundtracks from the 70s and 80s, like the OS albums of Jaws, ET, Raiders, Born on the Fourth of July, etc. I'll keep these forever, regardless of any future complete releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Just now, Brundlefly said: Who is "DE"? Deluxe Edition? Danny Elfman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I think I have around 1100 film music CDs and around 700 "normal" music CDs? Something like that, I haven't counted them in ages I have never listened to classical or jazz in my entire life, just film music and pop/rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 Just now, Brundlefly said: Who is "DE"? Deluxe Edition? Danny Elfman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Just now, Jay said: I have never listened to classical or jazz in my entire life, just film music and pop/rock I have never listened to classical or jazz in my entire life, just film music.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: Who is "DE"? Deluxe Edition? Danny Elfman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Okay, from now on I am never gonna forget that DE means Danny Elfman. I have never listened to pop in my entire life, just orchestral classical music, John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith and rock (earlier). Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jay said: I think I have around 1100 film music CDs and around 700 "normal" music CDs? Something like that I haven't counted them in ages I have never listened to classical or jazz in my entire life, just film music and pop/rock Me, I love classical music, especially Tchaikovsky, Beethoven, and Chopin. I used to play the piano myself. When you listen to classical music, you can often hear where JW gets his inspirations. He's an avid listener and admirer of all sorts of classical music, and it shows. Besides that, I also listen to pop/rock and whatever currently tops the charts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Someday I'll listen to some classical music, some day.... I don't even really like golden age film scores either, pretty much just Jaws -> Present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: I have never listened to pop in my entire life, just orchestral classical music, John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith and rock (earlier). I listen to both pop and rock... Except sometimes I'm not sure what's the difference. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Josh500 said: Me, I love classical music, especially Tchaikovsky, Beethoven, and Chopin. I used to play the piano myself. When you listen to classical music, you can often hear where JW gets his inspirations. He's an avid listener and admirer of all sorts of classical music, and it shows. Besides that, I also listen to pop/rock and whatever currently tops the charts.... It's less classic that he gets most of his inspiration from, but more romantic, expressionism and impressionism. 1 minute ago, Josh500 said: I listen to both pop and rock... Except sometimes I'm not sure what's the difference. 😂 Well, theoretically pop is just popular music, so if rock is popular... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 Just now, Jay said: Someday I'll listen to some classical music, some day.... I don't even really like golden age film scores either, pretty much just Jaws -> Present Bernard Hermann, Henry Manchini, and Max Steiner are my favourites from the earlier period... Buy yeah, nothing tops Williams after Jaws. If not for Williams I probably wouldn't have gotten into film music in the first place. 2 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: It's less classic that he gets most of his inspiration from, but more romantic, expressionism and impressionism. I'm aware of the differences. I'm just using the term "classical music" in the broadest sense, from Vivaldi to Beethoven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,514 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: Who is "DE"? Deluxe Edition? 1 hour ago, Jay said: Danny Elfman. What happens if you have a Deluxe Edition of a Danny Elfman CD? 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: Am I the only one who sells the OSTs and Expansions, when there is a Complete Score? I've never sold an OST in my life, but I have traded them with other JWfaners, usually for...ahem..."unofficial"... copies of SEs that I don't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I keep all my CDs. Doesn't matter if a future version makes it completely obsolete. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,514 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Jay said: I buy every single JW, JG, JH, MG, and DE album the specialty labels put out. What about BH, JNH, JB, EM, MR, NR, AN, T/R/DN, TJ, HZ - nah, fuck that! - and JP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I do not buy all the releases the specialty labels put out for those artists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 22 hours ago, Brundlefly said: As I see you always keep every release. At this point it would be helpful to get rid of some, just for space reasons, but I don't think I could do that. 22 hours ago, Brundlefly said: Are there any releases you missed? Most of them have had new releases during the past few years, but I'm still completely missing The Swarm, and Air Force One, Small Soldiers and Mulan are only represented as CDRs (with expanded releases of everything coming out these days, I don't see the point in seeking out the original albums). 20 hours ago, Romão said: How deep are the shelves? They're 20cm deep actually, which is why they're so perfect for CDs/DVDs/Blu-rays, compared to the 28cm Billys. Also, unlike Billy, they have continuous holes for placing the shelf boards, so you don't have to awkwardly make some middle rows higher or drill holes yourself. There is, or was, also a 40cm deep version. The entire series has gone out of and slightly differently back in production over the years here, changed colours etc., and might be dead again now (haven't checked recently, since I've run out of space to put new shelves anyway). But I guess that varies from country to country. 4 hours ago, Brundlefly said: Am I the only one who sells the OSTs and Expansions, when there is a Complete Score? I certainly wouldn't sell this one: That's also missing from the photo, by the way, because it was part of a (temporarily) aborted attempt to nicely display my signed CDs, which means they're piled in a different shelf at the moment where you don't really see them at all... Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Okay, I wouldn't either sell a signed CD if I had one. I also think of buying the OSTs, when they were a re-recording and not included on the special edition (Capricorn One). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 When they're re-recs, definitely. The Capricorn One album shits on the full original score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 9 hours ago, Jay said: I keep all my CDs. Same here, except your regular pop and rock music. Seriously, compared to the hard to get film scores (limited or not), your run-of-the-mill pop and rock CDs somehow appear so cheap and dispensable.... I guess that's one of the unintended side effects of being a soundtrack collector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I pirated all his stuff. He wouldn't have wanted me collecting all those bottlecaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Josh500 said: Same here, except your regular pop and rock music. Seriously, compared to the hard to get film scores (limited or not), your run-of-the-mill pop and rock CDs somehow appear so cheap and dispensable.... I guess that's one of the unintended side effects of being a soundtrack collector. Er, I just see it as paper and plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 12 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: When they're re-recs, definitely. The Capricorn One album shits on the full original score. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,514 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: This! 14 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: When they're re-recs, definitely. The Capricorn One album shits on the full original score. I agree with my esteemed colleagues. The "OST" is played better, and recorded better. It's also a better listening experience. It's one of the few examples where an "OST" beats an expanded/complete score. I listen to the "OST" far more often than I do the Intrada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 That main title sounds savage! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Same thing happened with Masada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Just now, Romão said: Same thing happened with Masada Oh God! I was so disappointed when i heard that old bootleg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 What exactly is the problem with Masada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The original recording for the TV mini-series pales in comparison to the OST rerecording Goldsmith did in London (also with the NPO?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 So... the Varese Sarabande OST is a re-recording and sounds much better and is better played than the Intrada Complete Original Score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,514 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: That main title sounds savage! Yes. It's savage, desperate, dense, and urgent. 5 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: So... the Varese Sarabande OST is a re-recording and sounds much better and is better played than the Intrada Complete Original Score? I cannot comment on the complete score, as I don't own it , but the "OST" is fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: So... the Varese Sarabande OST is a re-recording and sounds much better and is better played than the Intrada Complete Original Score? Very much so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 58 minutes ago, Richard said: I cannot comment on the complete score, as I don't own it I understand your sorrow. And the guys at Intrada reissued One Little Indian Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Right, Masada is another one where I still need the original album in non-CDR form. 2 hours ago, Richard said: I agree with my esteemed colleagues. The "OST" is played better, and recorded better. It's also a better listening experience. It's one of the few examples where an "OST" beats an expanded/complete score. I listen to the "OST" far more often than I do the Intrada. Damien, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 None ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Just realized I haven't posted my answer to the question The Sand Pebbles (Intrada) Papillon (Quartet) Alien (Intrada) Star Trek: The Motion Picture (La La Land) Poltergeist (Rhino) The Secret of Nimh (Intrada) Psycho II (Intrada) Under Fire (FSM) Legend (Silva Screen) Hoosiers (Intrada) Link (La La Land) Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (Intrada) Dennis the Menace (La La Land) Star Trek: First Contact (GNP Crescendo) Star Trek: Insurrection (GNP Crescendo) The Mummy (Decca) Star Trek: Nemesis (Varese Sarabande) [the original OST, don't own the expansion] 17 Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,514 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: Damien, too. Also agreed, but the Varese has SNOWMOBILE, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: Just realized I haven't posted my answer to the question Alien (Intrada) I recently saw the Intrada version of Alien for around 40 bucks (new, still shrink-wrapped). I'm asking, because I already have the 10 track original soundtrack album (I downloaded it earlier this month). Should I get the Intrada edition as well? I understand a lot of the music on it wasn't even used in the movie.... and I'm not sure yet whether I'm that much of a JG fan yet. 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: Just realized I haven't posted my answer to the question The Sand Pebbles (Intrada) Papillon (Quartet) Alien (Intrada) Star Trek: The Motion Picture (La La Land) Poltergeist (Rhino) The Secret of Nimh (Intrada) Psycho II (Intrada) Under Fire (FSM) Legend (Silva Screen) Hoosiers (Intrada) Link (La La Land) Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (Intrada) Dennis the Menace (La La Land) Star Trek: First Contact (GNP Crescendo) Star Trek: Insurrection (GNP Crescendo) The Mummy (Decca) Star Trek: Nemesis (Varese Sarabande) [the original OST, don't own the expansion] 17 Basic Instinct, Total Recall, and Rambo are must haves. Get those asap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 It's my single favorite Goldsmith score, so I would say yes it is absolutely worth owning in complete form, one of the most essential releases to come out of the specialty labels. Along with Star Wars, I consider it one of the cornerstone film scores of all time. And I personally think the movie is better with Goldsmith's original intentions restored. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 There's something almost mysterious, haunting, and terribly awe-inspiring about the whole Alien score.... Yeah, I think I'll get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 39 minutes ago, Josh500 said: I recently saw the Intrada version of Alien for around 40 bucks (new, still shrink-wrapped). I'm asking, because I already have the 10 track original soundtrack album (I downloaded it earlier this month). Should I get the Intrada edition as well? I understand a lot of the music on it wasn't even used in the movie.... and I'm not sure yet whether I'm that much of a JG fan yet. The Intrada edition of the score is not OOP. You can buy it directly from Intrada for $30 and support the label http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.5613/.f And yes, its well worth it; A great presentation of his music. It includes the OST on disc 2 as well. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 52 minutes ago, Josh500 said: Should I get the Intrada edition as well? I understand a lot of the music on it wasn't even used in the movie.... and I'm not sure yet whether I'm that much of a JG fan yet. A lot of the music on the original album wasn't used in the film. On the other hand, the film has quite a bit of material that wasn't on the album. Plus the Intrada sounds decidedly better than the original album release, as far as I recall. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Yup, and it has FANTASTIC liner notes to boot Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 Yup, I'm definitely gonna get the Intrada edition! I thought this was limited, but it's actually not. What a pleasant surprise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: A lot of the music on the original album wasn't used in the film. On the other hand, the film has quite a bit of material that wasn't on the album. 'Hypersleep', for instance. Absolutely essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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