Popular Post crocodile 8,000 Posted May 25, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2018 Oh can you remember those dreaded Zimmer chords in the Tintin pirate battle sequence? Or the wailing women in MR and ROTS? Oh the horror! Karol crumbs, Muad'Dib, Holko and 5 others 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I mean, he went full RCP in Munich. What a terrible score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, Blumenkohl said: I mean how many of us came hard for “No Man’s Land” in War Horse for those very same reasons? "No Man's Land" is quite brilliant. A score highlight. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Loert said: It gets better every time I listen to it. In fact, I have an irresistible urge to transcribe it... Use your musical instincts, Loert. Let the NOTES flow through you. Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, Fal said: Well, for one thing, if that were true, Kasey wouldn't be talking about it I love you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 2 hours ago, leeallen01 said: Others enjoy his RCP percussion, but to me it sounds like a Zimmer-obsessed teenager who wanted to "epic" up Williams original themes. I really really cringed when I heard 'Reminiscient Therapy.' I can't help my dislike for it, it was an immediate reaction of dislike at how Powell handled the many callbacks. ...and tell me how trashy Giacchino's score is etc, even though I find his Rogue One score vastly superior to Powell's Solo. I enjoy the percussion. I find it quite fitting and distinct. I mean, honestly, that Here They Come variation was epic. Reminiscence Therapy is my favourite track. It's nostalgaic beauty, it's a great mix of old and new ( and no, I don't mean that at all like I did when I reviewed TLJ score). It's that awesome callback to the original SW Hyperspace to open, the Rebel Fanfare/Falcon, awesome Here They Come variation, great Asteroid Field quote, and perhaps my favourite usage of Chewie's theme. Then some Adventures of Han, which is too great to hate, especially since it came out today. It all works out splendidly in my speakers. I too like Rogue One's score, but I cannot help but love Solo so much more. Your opinion is respected, but mine remains. 2 hours ago, John said: I fully acknowledge and respect your opinion, but you are wrong. This. 2 hours ago, TGP said: Good grief, what is all this about RCP percussion (which I assume means low but boosted surdos, taikos, big bass drums etc.)? Am I the only one who doesn't hear anything of the sort in this score? I hear...percussion. Are some people just allergic to anything with a beat now? I know, right? I love the percussion. Especially that Here They Come variation that I cannot get enough of. Reminiscence Therapy (which is a funny title, because that is exactly what it is)!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 49 minutes ago, Loert said: Not absurd at all, in fact, this is one of the main reasons why he's a favourite of mine. You can tell that he always tries even harder with each new score. Still, HTTYD is better than everything... Nah, he hasn't topped Horton for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 hour ago, leeallen01 said: Yeah fuck those fuckers who form an opinion based on their reaction to something. Yes. That's exactly what "reactionary" means. Bravo! Kasey Kockroach and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 You are all beautiful people and I love each and every one of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Renaming this score “How to Train Your Wookie” igger6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 More like "How to Train Emilia Clarke to Act". Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 On 25/05/2018 at 5:04 PM, Blumenkohl said: Yeah those food people are FRIs too. Children are particularly idiotic in this domain. If you don’t like spinach, it doesn’t mean you won’t like spanakopita. But FRI are ideologically opposed to the very concept of spinach, so they eat the spanakopita with the drive to hate it because it has spinach. They react to the concept rather than the real thing in front of them. I used to hate guacamole as a kid. Tried it once and thought it was gross. It looked gross. I lived my whole childhood and adolescence just hating guacamole. Hard pass on the guacamole. If I tried it, I knew I didn't like it and that's how it always tasted. I was the only guy around who didn't like guacamole! Then somewhere in my early 20s I decided "You know, life might be more fun if I liked guacamole" and I told myself that maybe actually I was bringing the party down and guacamole was kinda cool. I reconsidered guacamole. Next time I tried it, it wasn't all that bad. Weird. It's not my absolute #1 favorite thing in the whole wide world but if the host comes out with the guacamole, shit bring it on. Same with butter. I hated it as a child and from then on into my teenage years if there wasn't strawberry jelly I would just eat bread and rolls and toast dry, or not at all. My friends would ask if I wanted butter and I would say "Nope, don't like butter. HAHAHA yeah, isn't that weird?! Yep just don't like it! " Took me years to realize that not liking butter was...um, inconvenient. One night we went out to eat and I gave buttering my bread another shot. Yeah, guess what, I like butter like everybody else. Not that special. There are dudes who refuse to enjoy a 5-star romcom or ladies who won't get into a really intense game. Or vice versa! Sometimes I find myself wrapping my opinions into my sense of self...becomes irrational. BLUMENKOHL and Not Mr. Big 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Mine Mission is so nutritious for my ears. Such bounce! Such rhythm! Such pure Powelliness! Mitth'raw'nuorodo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Which tracks feature the love theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I hate The Lost World, John Williams really phoned it in. Such generic percussion, only a composer who has something to hide uses that. I don't actually know what separates generic from non-generic percussion, but I hear a lot of drums and so I instantly know it's bad. crumbs and Not Mr. Big 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Arpy said: Which tracks feature the love theme? Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breadstick Basilisk 108 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Arpy said: Which tracks feature the love theme? "Lando's Closet" is the major one that comes to mind. It's the closest thing you'll get to a concert arrangement of the theme. Also features pretty prominently in "The Good Guy". Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Lando's Closet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breadstick Basilisk 108 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Yes...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Thank you @mrbellamy and @Breadstick Basilisk Breadstick Basilisk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breadstick Basilisk 108 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Just noticed this great, tragic rendition of the love theme, at 2:44. DarthDementous and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John 2,032 Posted May 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2018 “Lando’s Closet” has become my grown-up lullaby. Will, Breadstick Basilisk and Kasey Kockroach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Chicken in the Pot is the Canto Bight of the Jabba Flow of the Cantina Band we never knew we needed! DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I like to call it Chicken in the Run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DarthDementous 1,059 Posted May 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2018 I'm incredibly impressed that each track doesn't feel like it drags at all, and holy shit I've never heard such fast-paced and intense action writing before that never lets up but also doesn't lose my interest. this is the Star Wars score I never knew I wanted, I'm getting more and more used to the 'un-Star Warsy' elements as I continue to listen because it just serves conveying the emotion and action of the scene so well. EDIT: the moments where Powell goes pure romantic Hollywood are fucking sublime and take me immediately back to the era of the Original Trilogy. SteveMc, crumbs, Breadstick Basilisk and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, DarthDementous said: EDIT: the moments where Powell goes pure romantic Hollywood are fucking sublime and take me immediately back to the era of the Original Trilogy. This. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breadstick Basilisk 108 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, DarthDementous said: EDIT: the moments where Powell goes pure romantic Hollywood are fucking sublime and take me immediately back to the era of the Original Trilogy. Yep. I assume you're referring to "Lando's Closet"? That's the one that stuck out to me, anyways. Any other spots that come to mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Breadstick Basilisk said: Just noticed this great, tragic rendition of the love theme, at 2:44. Bloody brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Beautifully horrifying sound at about 0:43. This is the freshest, most passionate, exciting Star Wars score I've heard since Return of the Jedi. Jacck and Taikomochi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Mark my words, Williams will use RCP drum loops in Episode IX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2018 John Williams: Young lad, what is this miraculous device?.. John Powell: RCP drums, sir. John Williams: Mmm, most intriguing indeed... SteveMc, mstrox, MikeH and 5 others 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1977 1,743 Posted May 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Sharky said: Exactly. ROTS with its thudding daikos sounded more "RCP" (an epithet that's becoming more meaningless and this thread wears on) than this. This is a lighter, airier prelayed percussion sound common to Powell, Arnold, HGW and their 90s contemporaries. The fact that it's elicited such a visceral reaction here is... predictable, yet somewhat amusing. It's not about percussion (which I happen to love), it's about crap sounding synthesized "beats" as the young 'uns refer to it being placed under everything in this score to "epic it up". There's nothing RCP sounding about ROTS's percussion. Chalk and cheese. Sharkissimo, Taikomochi, Jacck and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Is this related to any theme or just a one-off? I don't really recognize it from anywhere else in the score but I love it haha. Maybe actually a little deconstruction on Han's Hero theme? Similar range and rhythmic values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 minute ago, mrbellamy said: Is this related to any theme or just a one-off? I don't really recognize it from anywhere else in the score but I love it haha. Maybe actually a little deconstruction on Han's Hero theme? Similar range and rhythmic values. Thats the gang theme by Powell Breadstick Basilisk and mrbellamy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Where else is it? Ah yeah, listening to "Train Heist" again, that's right. Still, goes to show some thematic unity going on there. crumbs and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2018 I also hear the gang theme in Marauders Arrive, Mine Mission, Break Out and Into the Maw. Might be others. I hear Chewie's theme in Flying with Chewie, Break Out and Reminiscing Therapy. Anywhere else? Man, see, this is exactly what I love about Powell scores. So many rich details constantly being discovered after revisit upon revisit upon revisit! mrbellamy, Breadstick Basilisk and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 minute ago, kaseykockroach said: I hear Chewie's theme in Flying with Chewie, Break Out and Reminiscing Therapy. Anywhere else? My favorite's in Mine Mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breadstick Basilisk 108 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: I hear Chewie's theme in Flying with Chewie, Break Out and Reminiscing Therapy. Anywhere else? "Train Heist"! Slow rendition at 0:46! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Yeah thats right! Powell is a really good storyteller, one Powell to unite them all! Gang Theme Variations Yup the gang theme first heard in Flying With Chewie track. I mean by the plot, thats the first time we met the Tobias's gang And it get to its various variations in the track "Train Heist", starting at 1:46 to 2:15 ( this is the Hancock feel im talking about) and then transitioned into its heroic statement at 2:53 - 3-06 then to its cheerful mode at4:23 - 4:37 . . this theme is scattered through track Marauders Arrive, Into The maw in its action/suspense mode . But it gets into its slow/sad variation in this track at 1:50 to 2:30 ( this is where its gets similar to stoick theme in HTTYD) it gets into its "confused"/suspense mode in this track at 00:21- 00:30 ( i love how Powell uses this to that effect because thats whats currently going in the plot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Is it weird that the percussion in this and Ferdinand reminds me more of Horner than RCP? I don't know, maybe I'm insane. I hear that kind of percussion, I think Horner's Zorro action music (but Powell has a lot more 'oomph' and gusto). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 "Train Heist" is magnificent. The second the action started to pick up in the theater, I knew this was going to be a nice action cue. Smaug The Iron and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I don't remember the exact spot it's heard (just got home from work and I'm pooped), but I remember in that cue there was some kind of brass noise that sounded like, well, an incoming train! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown 238 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Marauders Arrive on repeat for days. 😍 Breadstick Basilisk and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Spoiler I like that at first, that sounds like a menacing villain theme, but as the movie and score go on, it turns out it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown 238 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 It's just refreshing. You haven't heard that type of choir since Avatar in 2009. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 Spoilers. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 (Sorry, fixed) It's especially unique in terms of what's usually heard in the Star Wars music world. The closest I can think of is the end of Phantom Menace. Even then, in this case, the cue isn't carried by the voices, the voices are just adding to the strong rhythm Powell's got going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown 238 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 For those interested, you can pick up the Hi-Res version of the soundtrack on PSM for pretty cheap! https://www.prostudiomasters.com/album/page/20544 1 minute ago, kaseykockroach said: (Sorry, fixed) It's especially unique in terms of what's usually heard in the Star Wars music world. The closest I can think of is the end of Phantom Menace. Even then, in this case, the cue isn't carried by the voices, the voices are just adding to the strong rhythm Powell's got going on. The only disappointment for me for this soundtrack is the lack of concert suites. I would love one for the love theme, the marauders, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 No worries, I bet leaked recording sessions will pop up or something of that caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown 238 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 What makes you think that? Where's Rogue One then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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