Tom 4,637 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 The end credit suite from BotFJ has been my favorite Williams' "Americana" piece of his oeuvre. However, I am really taken by the trumpet version of With Malice Toward None on the Spielberg/Williams album. In fact, I think I prefer the latter. There is something so understated yet moving about the whole piece. So, why not create a poll. Pick whichever version of BotFJ you prefer, as they both feature the trumpet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,497 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 No contest: BOT4thOJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Oooh tough. Both are my favourites from JW's stately Americana catalogue but I have to go with Born on the Fourth of July if only by a narrow margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I'll be the one who votes for "With Malice Toward None." Both are of course brilliant compositions but I prefer the quiet optimism of the Lincoln piece. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Would it have killed you to just spell the titles out? Did the time you saved really make that big a difference to you? Also, not even a contest: Born on the Fourth of July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 IvfBOTFJ. IlibtWMtN. mrbellamy and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Lincoln for me! I love that score and have listened to it dozens of times; I've only listened to BO4OJ twice. Kind of waiting for an expanded release to sell me on that score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 with malice toward none competition. 2010's always wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 With Malice Towards None, in any version, is one of JW's best pieces. I can't even recall the other option. I suspect it's more white bread Americana compared to the reverent, deeply human tone of Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: With Malice Towards None, in any version, is one of JW's best pieces. I can't even recall the other option. I suspect it's more white bread Americana compared to the reverent, deeply human tone of Lincoln. Actually, there's a dark, deeply tragic quality to the Born on the Fourth of July piece, reflective of its themes of the plight of Vietnam vets returning to America. It's fantastic. But yes, I prefer the almost religious tone of the Lincoln piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I prefer the album arrangement(s) of the Lincoln piece to BOTFOJL's suite but I prefer the BOTFOJL suite over the concert arrangement Lincoln piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Born on the Fourth of July is my favourite theme by Williams! That's it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,637 Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 I remember being blown away by the trumpet/string interplay in the middle section of BotF (or Born on the Fourth of July, for those who like things spelled out for them) the first time I heard it. Williams then punched me in the gut by removing it in the concert version. I even heard him perform the said concert version with the CSO (again, Chicago Symphony Orchestra), and it still seemed like a punch in the gut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 A deeply affecting gut-punch of baby boomer disillusionment or a milquetoast, pussyfooting, PBS-grade ode to Copland. My vote is cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 What's wrong with PBS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 No more Friends references please. Godawful shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Friends is great! Can you BE anymore wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,637 Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 7 hours ago, Sharky said: A deeply affecting gut-punch of baby boomer disillusionment or a milquetoast, pussyfooting, PBS-grade ode to Copland. More of a both/and sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 7 hours ago, Sharky said: A deeply affecting gut-punch of baby boomer disillusionment or a milquetoast, pussyfooting, PBS-grade ode to Copland. My vote is cast. I... don't know which is which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: Friends is great! Can you BE anymore wrong? Of the main 90s must-see TV Thursday NBC comedy shows, which I watched religiously, here's where I stand: Cheers The Cosby Show Wings Seinfeld Frasier Mad About You Friends Indianagirl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Disco Stu said: What's wrong with PBS? It's middlebrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Middlebrow's a real nice, comfortable place to be! Come join the horde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 The Cosby Show is now unwatchable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 With all due respect to the piece from Lincoln, it is in no position to go up against Born on the Forth of July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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