curlytoot 97 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Oddly enough, I was searching to see if there were any pics of JW with Leonard Bernstein, when I stumbled upon this photo. Anyone know anything about it? Were they all actually there at the same time or was the photo basically cobbled together? Forgive my ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I know but I forgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 It's a fake! See, you can tell by the cross section. Pretty sure it's partially a collage, and partially some of them together. I don't remember who was pasted in though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Apparently from Vanity Fair 1997. FSM messageboard had a thread about in 2006. There is a suggestion that they usually photograph such a big group of people in smaller groups and then put it together editorially, mostly because of schedules of the busy composers who might not be able to attend at the same time. The text at the bottom of the picture says: The Composers Photographed by Art Streiber in Los Angeles on January 7 and 20, 1997. "No one knows why films need music, but no film is complete without it." —The late Bernard Herrmann, composer for Citizen Kane, Psycho and Taxi Driver. The two dates lend credence to the idea that there were two different photo sessions with different composers present. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Hansu and Johnny exchanging that loving look.... If this board had ships.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Muad'Dib said: Hansu and Johnny exchanging that loving look.... If this board had ships.... Actually Johnny is looking into the space behind Danny Elfman pretending to be interested in what the younger composer is saying. I bet he grinned and nodded furiously. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Elliot Goldenthal is looking into your soul. Corellian2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 48 minutes ago, Evil-Lyn said: Elliot Goldenthal is looking into your soul. He has the habit of doing that. Ricard and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thor 7,490 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Incanus said: Apparently from Vanity Fair 1997. FSM messageboard had a thread about in 2006. There is a suggestion that they usually photograph such a big group of people in smaller groups and then put it together editorially, mostly because of schedules of the busy composers who might not be able to attend at the same time. The text at the bottom of the picture says: The Composers Photographed by Art Streiber in Los Angeles on January 7 and 20, 1997. "No one knows why films need music, but no film is complete without it." —The late Bernard Herrmann, composer for Citizen Kane, Psycho and Taxi Driver. The two dates lend credence to the idea that there were two different photo sessions with different composers present. That is correct. Two different sessions. I remember when this Vanity Fair pic did all the rounds in the early days of the internet. I even ran a story on it in my early incarnation of Celluloid Tunes. A bit sad to see all the composers who have passed since. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 This looks like the most photoshopped photo I've ever seen. Horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Ive seen worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 7,490 Posted August 29, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2017 Well, I'm not quite sure who were in what sessions (it wasn't merely as easy as the left side in one session, and the right side in the other). By the way, I just noticed there's some guy who's photoshopped himself into the picture (the guy in the back with a purple suit). He was obviously not part of the original photo, which can be seen here: http://www.c3iopscenter.com/currentops/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/7January1997ComposersVanityFair.jpg Incanus, Mari and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I was just going to comment on that, @Thor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Thor said: Well, I'm not quite sure who were in what sessions (it wasn't merely as easy as the left side in one session, and the right side in the other). By the way, I just noticed there's some guy who's photoshopped himself into the picture (the guy in the back with a purple suit). He was obviously not part of the original photo, which can be seen here: http://www.c3iopscenter.com/currentops/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/7January1997ComposersVanityFair.jpg Thanks for sharing the original image Thor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Composers I didn't know by sight: Schifrin Isham Barry Hamlisch Jarre Shaiman Menken Composers I knew by sight: JNH Goldsmith Williams Elfman Zimmer Bernstein Horner Goldenthal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Here's the original non-shopped version And here's the original JWFan thread on all this http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/11492-vanity-fair-hollywood-1997-composers-pic/ Incanus and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 9 hours ago, Incanus said: Actually Johnny is looking into the space behind Danny Elfman pretending to be interested in what the younger composer is saying. I bet he grinned and nodded furiously. The space between spaces! Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 8 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Composers I didn't know by sight: Schifrin Isham Barry Hamlisch Jarre Shaiman Menken Composers I knew by sight: JNH Goldsmith Williams Elfman Zimmer Bernstein Horner Goldenthal You didn't list Kamen, but I hope you did recognise him! I didn't recognise JNH in that pic, but that's mostly due to the perspective. Otherwise, my list is pretty much like yours, except that I also knew Schifrin, Barry and Shaiman. Curious to see that soon I'll have seen five of them live (would have been six, had Barry been well enough to personally receive his Max Steiner award in 2009). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: You didn't list Kamen, but I hope you did recognise him! I did not! I don't know what most composers I listen to look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 "Ha ha ha... Suckers..." - John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 As looks go, Kamen was one of the most iconic ones. I still remember watching a David Gilmour DVD at my father's (probably David Gilmour in Concert) and being surprised when I spotted Kamen on the keyboard. (That was before I found out that he did arrangements on The Wall and some other Pink Floyd stuff) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Never been a big Kamen guy. I like his Bond score, Brazil, and X-Men. Robin Hood I've just never connected with. That's about the limit of my familiarity. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Oh, I don't know much, and I never got the huge fascination with Robin Hood (which doesn't mean I won't give it another try when a complete release comes out). But he's done some nice stuff, and he certainly was recognisable. Plus I like what he did for Pink Floyd. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 The actual magazine spread erroneously credits Williams with all 4 Superman films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Evil-Lyn said: The actual magazine spread erroneously credits Williams with all 4 Superman films. Vanity Fair. Shows what they know. Mere dilettantes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,512 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 7 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Never been a big Kamen guy. I like his Bond score, Brazil, and X-Men. Robin Hood I've just never connected with. That's about the limit of my familiarity. BRAZIL is fantastic. LICENCE TO KILL is such an underrated score. It's crying out for a complete release. 7 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Oh, I don't know much, and I never got the huge fascination with Robin Hood (which doesn't mean I won't give it another try when a complete release comes out). But he's done some nice stuff, and he certainly was recognisable. Plus I like what he did for Pink Floyd. I thought the same thing, when I discovered that JNH was all over a bunch of 70s Elton John records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 It's when I read some of these posts ("I didn't know what some of these guys looked like", "I'm not familiar with Kamen" etc.), that I realize how old I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,512 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 We've all got to start somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: That's not the conclusion you should come to. Rather that youngsters these days don't know a damn thing about film music and film music composers, apart from Gihackino and Zimmer. For some reason, I've assumed that I'm older than you but I don't know on what I've based that assumption since you don't let any biographical details slip ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 He let exactly one slip: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27212-gizmo-2007-2017/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 On 8/29/2017 at 6:12 PM, Disco Stu said: Never been a big Kamen guy. I like his Bond score, Brazil, and X-Men. Robin Hood I've just never connected with. That's about the limit of my familiarity. I find his music to be a bit twee to be honest, a bit like the 80's/90's equivalent of Giacchino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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