E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial La-La Land ANNOUNCEMENT Thread

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

It should be in the ET Isolated Score thread

[Disco Stu 15,495]

3 minutes ago, crumbs said:

Can someone please link me that great spreadsheet breakdown of the cue list and soundtrack releases so far? I can't find it.

This is @Jay's document:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QpVGzKLbN19_Tw2lwEU7LVglmqL3ogBrUWhTVUwHjww/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&hl=en_US&gid=0

I literally just type in "google.com/spreadsheets" on the board search to find these now.

[phbart 609]

Okay now, jokes aside, I really think CD1 won't be much different than the 2002 CD (aside from the remastered sound), which had 21 tracks. From what it looks, this has 23 tracks with the "Escape/Chase/Saying Goodbye" aparently splitted, so that leaves room for just one extra track. The smaller cues will be on CD2, along with the alternate and unused versions.

[crumbs 14,315]

MM may have combined tracks that were split on the 2002 release though?

[phbart 609]

Could be, but I don't see how that would work for E.T. since not even the film mix combines the cues to such a different way that what's already been released on past CDs, unless it's MM's turn to now make some "exciting editing decisions".

[crumbs 14,315]

I'm lining up the cue list to the blurred album listing. There's a few weird things I'm discovering but overall it does seem to match the 2002 release more than I expected.

[phbart 609]

Maybe he'll move "Toys" to CD2 to the "unused on film" section

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

13 minutes ago, phbart said:

Okay now, jokes aside, I really think CD1 won't be much different than the 2002 CD (aside from the remastered sound), which had 21 tracks. From what it looks, this has 23 tracks with the "Escape/Chase/Saying Goodbye" aparently splitted, so that leaves room for just one extra track. The smaller cues will be on CD2, along with the alternate and unused versions.

 

Correct takes!

[Disco Stu 15,495]

1 minute ago, phbart said:

Maybe he'll move "Toys" to CD2 to the "unused on film" section

This is probably Toys though:

[phbart 609]

3 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

Correct takes!

Yes, aside from the remastered sound and correct takes.

[crumbs 14,315]

My best guess, using a combination of cue titles and existing album titles:

[phbart 609]

"11 E.T. Raids the Icebox"

 

I missed the "Quiet Man" cue there. Could it be merged with "Frogs"?

[crumbs 14,315]

Yeah, in all likelihood, that track is actually called E.T. And Elliot Get Drunk. MM appears to have taken a lot of guidance from the 2002 expansion titles (possible Williams directive?)

[bollemanneke 3,348]

Great spreadsheet as usual.

[King Mark 3,631]

Everything for me revolves  on 3 cues

 

E.T. is Dying Film Version

Correct Goodbye Scene

E.T. Botanicus

 

and what about the Kiss Scene and Into the Cornfield cues...where's that supposed to be. do we still need the Laserdisk for that

[phbart 609]

5 minutes ago, crumbs said:

Yeah, in all likelihood, that track is actually called E.T. And Elliot Get Drunk. MM appears to have taken a lot of guidance from the 2002 expansion titles (possible Williams directive?)

Or maybe avoiding extra paperwork with the music publisher service, as newly renamed tracks would probably have to be registered all over again. I'm just guessing, actually. I don't really know that stuff works.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

"Botanicus" isn't the only music from the waiting line. There's an even better piece that develops the government agent motif.

[crumbs 14,315]

Where exactly has the term 'Botanicus' come from? Is that the official name of the piece Williams wrote?

[phbart 609]

13 minutes ago, king mark said:

Everything for me revolves  on 3 cues

 

E.T. is Dying Film Version

Correct Goodbye Scene

E.T. Botanicus

 

and what about the Kiss Scene and Cornfield cue...where's that supposed to be

The kiss scene could merged with "Frogs", but not so tightly merged so as to make them impossible to separate with editing software without sacrificing anything. The cornfield cue looks more like an "alternate" main title to me.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

It's the name of the alien that appears while the music plays.

[crumbs 14,315]

The Cornfield could be track 11 on disc 2, if you squint.

 

[phbart 609]

Yes, looks like it.

In all, something tells me that not all of the "wrong" takes from previous releases will be on CD2 as alternates, so we'll probably still have to keep them.

[crumbs 14,315]

That's a fair assumption. MM's intention is to present the score with the most polished version of every cue Williams wrote for a score, in every iteration said cue ever existed. If previous producers used incorrect takes, he's not bound to carry those over to his own presentation.

Anyway, here's my crude analysis of disc 2. Lots of guesswork and the track titles are anyone's guess, but the likelihood of this now-infamous theme park music being included seems increasingly small:

[King Mark 3,631]

looks missing  the 1996 c.d End Credits, which I actually like

 

I had hoped this set would make everything obsolete

 

not sure how your reading Botanicus

[phbart 609]

"Bedtime Story" (At Home) also differs slightly from 1:14 to 1:30 from the 1996 CD to the 2002 CD (and 1996 Laserdisc isolated).

[King Mark 3,631]

I guess we'll do damage control on friday

[crumbs 14,315]

6 minutes ago, king mark said:

looks missing  the 1996 c.d End Credits, which I actually like

I had hoped this set would make everything obsolete

not sure how your reading Botanicus

So it's probable that track 20 is actually End Credits (Alternate). Botanicus was just wishful thinking; I doubt any such track would  be called such a silly title.

The weird thing about tracks 14 and 18 is they aren't designated as alternates or original versions; they just appear to be very short track titles??

Summing up, I'm certain any theme park music would've featured in its own section in the tracklist, like how they've broken up the OST and the Additional Music section. 

So, yeah... lower your expectations, folks. There ain't no Theme Park music on this release, which probably means Williams nixed it or the sessions are missing.

[phbart 609]

All we can do is keep our fingers crossed. It'll be a superb release, but it won't please greeks and trojans altogether

[King Mark 3,631]

yeah and I think there's more than one cue to the ride music so it would have been a special section .So it's not on there

[crumbs 14,315]

It's possible the sessions were missing or lost to time. Either way, shitty outcome. If ever there was a release to include that music, this was it.

Will be interesting to hear MM explain what happened (as he was fully aware of said music).

[Nemesis 245]

I'm sure the Adventure Ride music is on disc 2. MM would not leave it out.

[Amer 2,108]

I think there is no Botanicus music cues here. The sub heading of the 2nd part of the tracklist looks like  "Alternate Cues" . If you squint you could almost see it. Anyways, if there was Botanicus here then preferred heading would have been Alternate and Bonus cues. 

[phbart 609]

1 minute ago, Nemesis said:

I'm sure the Adventure Ride music is on disc 2. MM would not leave it out.

He wouldn't. But if JW doesn't want that to be included, then it won't be included. Unless MM has now mastered even further his skills as "negotiator" since the Jurassic Park set...

[King Mark 3,631]

I'm concluding there's no ride music

The thing is E.T. has NEVER been a priority release for me  since all the material is already released on different sources .  This set can basically be cobbled up together from the LD and various c.d.s. My main selling point would have been the ride music.

Now the ONLY selling point is the sound quality and remastering. But there wasn't anything wrong with the sound quality on previous releases (including the LD rip)  so I dunno. And it looks like we'll still have to make a "complete score" play list made from disk 1 and 2.

 

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Let's save the righteous anger for Friday when we know for sure.

[crumbs 14,315]

Well MM was critical of the last release omitting that theme park material, so this appears to be yet another JW Special.

If anyone can add up the track times for the alternate/original cues, it'll probably confirm there's no room for the theme park cues on disc 2 anyway. Sigh.

[Wojo 2,453]

23 minutes ago, king mark said:

E.T. has NEVER been a priority release for me  since all the material is already released on different sources .  This set can basically be cobbled up together from the LD and various c.d.s.

That's too much work. I will be happy to make this my first purchase of the soundtrack. 

[filmmusic 1,829]

Some tracks could be the same exact cues with the complete score, but with an alternate mix.

But I hope not.

[crumbs 14,315]

1 minute ago, filmmusic said:

Some tracks could be the same exact cues with the complete score, but with an alternate mix.

But I hope not.

Stuff like that over the theme park cues would suck enormously.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

I'll stick with the unremastered OST.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

1 minute ago, Evil-Lyn said:

I'll stick with the unremastered OST.

Its the best John Williams OST.

[filmmusic 1,829]

4 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

Its the best John Williams OST.

If you haven't seen the film and don't know the music composed for it, it could be.

But in comparison to the entire music on film, i would consider a good ost something that's not missing anything substantial, eg. like JFK which has all the important cues and mainly misses cues with sustained chords and rhythmic loops ,

[King Mark 3,631]

So that awful sounding Botanicus track now has an official permanent place on my hard drive. I need time to let it sink in

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

Alright, as soon as vacation time becomes available, I'll go to the E.T. ride and perform sexual favors for everyone until they give me copies of the music.

[Pawel P. 738]

The reason that I so much want to have that Botanicus Theme on that edition is not just the fact that I’m want to put everything Williams composed and recorded in my CD collection (I’ll probably never achieve this goal ). I just fell in love with this music. It’s beautiful, majestic and has a mystery in it. And it's quite catchy!

[Nemesis 245]

It has a touch of Williams' Dracula. I like this passage very much and want to have it in stellar audio quality.

[King Mark 3,631]

It's fair to say it on most JWfans "Most wanted Unreleased Track" list

 

It's been discussed to death on the forum  so it's a pretty big deal it's not on the release

 

Like the Hook set not having the Feast insert

[Josh500 1,615]

Somehow I have a nagging feeling that this set will sell out a lot quicker than both AI or JP Collection...

Maybe in a week, or even in 2 or 3 days.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Ha.  Nope.