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Right now, who are your Top 5 film composers?

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10 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

 

Except Elton John wrote it

 

True. But many people also think Elton John wrote "The Lion Sleeps Tonight". There was apparently also a lawsuit over it's use in THE LION KING.

 

HANNIBAL is a fine score, btw, but Zimmer was far from a solo composer on that. There were several other composers involved, several existing music tracks being used and the best and most iconic of them remains "Vide Cor Meum" by Patrick Cassidy.

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Correct track listing:

 

1.  Dear Clarice (06:02) 
Hans Zimmer / Dialogue by Anthony Hopkins
2.  Aria Da Capo (01:48) 
Johann Sebastian Bach / Performed by Glenn Gould
3.  The Capponi Library (01:14) 
4.  Gourmet Valse Tartare (06:50) 
Klaus Badelt
5.  Avarice (03:54) 
6.  For A Small Stipend (00:55) 
7.  Firenze Di Notte (03:09) 
Martin Tillman & Mel Wesson
8.  Virtue (04:37) 
9.  Let My Home Be My Gallows (10:00) 
Hans Zimmer / Dialogue by Anthony Hopkins
10.  The Burning Heart (04:24) 
Hans Zimmer / Dialogue by Anthony Hopkins
11.  To Every Captive Soul (06:54) 
12.  Vide Cor Meum (04:20) 
Patrick Cassady / Libretto From Dante's "La Vita Nuova"

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20 minutes ago, Koray Savas said:

I thought you were being sarcastic so I didn't reply.

 

Elton John and Tim Rice wrote the songs for The Lion King.

 

Where's Blood Boal? Only he gets my humour.

 

Somebody bring me Blood Boal. And fetch me my bib!

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1. John Williams

2. Jerry Goldsmith

3. James Horner

4. John Barry

5. Danny Elfman

 

Herrman is sixth.

 

Arnold, Giachinno and Newton Howard are definately in my top 7-10 in some order.

 

If Arnold had continued his career the way he started with Stargate, ID4 and TND, he would have been in my 5 for sure.

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9 minutes ago, Damien F said:

If Arnold had continued his career the way he started with Stargate, ID4 and TND, he would have been in my 5 for sure.

 


THIS!!!!!  

 

Everything was different after those masterpieces.  What happened!?

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6 minutes ago, Josh500 said:

 

I think Casino Royale is pretty high up there too! 

 

Yup, CR is great. Closest score in the 21st century that matched his 90s high streak. Parts of Sherlock are fantastic too.

 

But his output since TND is still disappointing compared to his potential when he exploded onto the scene. Even TWINE, which is still very good, is a big step down from TND.

 

One of the reasons I love John Barry's Bond scores is that he was so consisently good throughout the decades. His quality remained the same even when his composing style changed. When Arnold changed his style, his quality dropped.

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5 minutes ago, Damien F said:

Yup, CR is great. Closest score in the 21st century that matched his 90s high streak. Parts of Sherlock are fantastic too.

 

But his output since TND is still disappointing compared to his potential when he exploded onto the scene. Even TWINE, which is still very good, is a big step down from TND.

 

I 100% agree with everything you say here!

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9 minutes ago, Damien F said:

 

Yup, CR is great. Closest score in the 21st century that matched his 90s high streak. Parts of Sherlock are fantastic too.

 

But his output since TND is still disappointing compared to his potential when he exploded onto the scene. Even TWINE, which is still very good, is a big step down from TND.

 

One of the reasons I love John Barry's Bond scores is that he was so consisently good throughout the decades. His quality remained the same even when his composing style changed. When Arnold changed his style, his quality dropped.

 

I don't know David Arnold well enough to comment one way or another, but I'll take your word for it.

 

By the way, I never realized Tomorrow Never Dies was so high up there! Would you say this is DA'S best Bond score?

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1 minute ago, Josh500 said:

 

I don't know David Arnold well enough to comment one war or another, but I'll take your word for it.

 

By the way, I never realized Tomorrow Never Dies was so high up there! Would you say this is DA'S best Bond score?

 

Absolutely. It's one of the best DA score period.

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3 minutes ago, Josh500 said:

By the way, I never realized Tomorrow Never Dies was so high up there! Would you say this is DA'S best Bond score?

 

Easily without a single doubt whatsoever.  Its basically tied with ID4 for me as DA's best score

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3 minutes ago, Jay said:

There is no 2CD version of Tomorrow Never Dies, Damien.  The expanded release is still 1CD.

Ah, I remember now. Thanks

 

TND was the very first OST I bought all the way back in 1997. Still have it. Still clearly remember trying to explain to a friend that the 'Hamburg Break In' track is the "background music" that plays during the scene where Bond breaks into Carver's Hamburg building and isn't actually a song!

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Top 5 David Arnold:

 

1. STARGATE

2. LAST OF THE DOGMEN

3. INDEPENDENCE DAY

4. GODZILLA

5. SHAFT

 

Honourable mentions to THE MUSKETEER, TOMORROW NEVER DIES, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH and THE YOUNG AMERICANS.

 

He used to feature in my Top 10, but not so much anymore.

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Williams, Horner, and Silvestri are the ones who I have the most sentimental attachment to and it would be kinda disingenuous of me to leave them out of any top 5. Not that I don't still just plain love listening to them, though Williams is the only one whose post-2000 music consistently keeps my interest, almost without exception.

 

The other two spots would probably fluctuate between Morricone, Goldsmith, Shore, Elfman, and Thomas Newman. Been more into Goldsmith and Newman lately.

 

Usual suspects. I think these are pretty much the guys who have inspired a complete obsession at some point with me. Obviously a lot of love for others but not quite to that point of listening and re-listening and re-re-listening to them exclusively for days, going through their career etc.

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Nothing, Jay, nothing at all. In fact if I had a #3, it'd be him. I also love, Barry, JNH, Arnold, Hermann, Rosza, Steiner, Bernstein (both of 'em!), Newman, T., Tiompkin, Martinez, Elfman, and a host of others.

The two at the top, however, have been, and always shall be, the music that I return to, no matter what. Their's is the music (not just film music, but any music) that means the most to me, and that's why I separated them. Their's is soul music, in a way that the rest, no matter how good, cannot be. It's music of my formative years, and it has shaped my life.

I hope that that explains things a little?

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2 hours ago, Richard said:

Right now? Pretty much the same as it's been, for the last 45 years:

1. John Williams

2. Jerry Goldsmith

...er...that's about it, really :unsure:

Nothing compares!

 

I would consider them to be the two best film composers of all time. Nobody else has shown that much musical sophistication, diversity, emotion, variety of instrumentation, transgression and connection of different genres, experiments, stylistic sovereignty and recognition value. All of these things are the reason why they both are my two favourite composers. And I'm not talking about movie composers, that ghetto. I'm talking about Mozart, I'm talking about Beethoven, I'm talking about Schubert. That's what I'm talking about.

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6 minutes ago, Bryant Burnette said:

#1 -- John Williams

 

Nobody else is close enough to be ranked #2, quite frankly.  So pick and choose among Goldsmith, Herrmann, Barry, and Shore and that'd be my 2-5.

All very classical, sophisticated composers.

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6 hours ago, Brundlefly said:

Nothing compares!

 

I would consider them to be the two best film composers of all time. Nobody else has shown that much musical sophistication, diversity, emotion, variety of instrumentation, transgression and connection of different genres, experiments, stylistic sovereignty and recognition value. All of these things are the reason why they both are my two favourite composers. And I'm not talking about movie composers, that ghetto. I'm talking about Mozart, I'm talking about Beethoven, I'm talking about Schubert. That's what I'm talking about.

 

I agree, although I wouldn't exactly compare Mozart and Beethoven with John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith! 😂 That's really comparing apples and oranges.

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