Josh500 1,615 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 So I now have 50 Jerry Goldsmith albums in my collection (seems like I bought over 30 JG CDs this year alone!). I think most of the scores that are considered his "best" are included. Most, but not all, especially his earlier works like "Patton" and "Tora Tora Tora" are still missing. But I want to have at least 60 by the end of the year! So which 10 are JG must-haves that I still do not have in my collection? Thanks in advance! CDs that I already own: Poltergeist Basic Instinct Alien (OST as well as the Intrada release) Total Recall Rambo: First Blood The Omen Damien: Omen II Planet of the Apes Star Trek: The Motion Picture Hollow Man Dennis the Menace Powder Congo Medicine Man Ghost and the Darkness Under Fire Legend Gremlins Gremlins 2 Air Force One Not Without My Daughter Forever Young Islands in the Stream Malice The First Knight The Sum of All Fears LA Confidential The Mummy The River Wild The Russia House Angie Looney Tunes City Hall Rio Conchos Star Trek: First Contact Star Trek: Nemesis Omen III: The Final Conflict The Shadow Rambo III Magic The 'Burbs The Explorers Poltergeist II Mulan Bandolero Lonely are the Brave The Stripper + The Traveling Executioner The Blue Max Warlock Mr. Baseball The Secret of NIMH Alien Nation Mom and Dad Save the World ____________ Sorry double post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Some of my favorites you currently don't have. The Burbs Hoosiers Small Soldiers King Solomon Mines Night Crossing Papillon The Secret of Nimh Mulan The 13th Warrior Several more I probably can't even think of, but those are some of my favorite scores of Goldsmith, that I believe are must haves. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 Medicine Man I already have. But yes, some good ones there! Especially Mulan and The Burbs! I admit, I'm more interested in his 80s and 90s scores. The Explorers and Inner Space are also on my current wish list! Fancyarcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Whoops didn't see that. So many titles to look at, I forget a few, ha. Explorers is fun, with a very nice adventure theme, and some good use of 80's synth, and Innerspace like most of his Dante's collaborations is fun, with a decent main theme, a good love theme, and a brief western Morricone inspired bit. It's not one of my favorite Goldsmith's score though, mostly because there's a lot of atmospheric synth tracks, which fit the film well, but I tend to skip it anytime I listen to the score. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 Yup! But I still think these are essentials in any half decent JG collection! These movies -- and by association these scores -- are absolute classics! Movies from my childhood. Fancyarcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 They're very fun, both scores and fun. Dante has a real knack for very "cartoony / out there" types of comedies, and they're usually very entertaining too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 The Burbs, second best of his Dantes Hoosiers, it's good but not spectacular 'inspirational sports americana', some of the synth work sounds awful Small Soldiers, it's fair to good but not especially distinctive King Solomon Mines - not his subtlest (Patton march reconfigured to sound like Raiders) but the hour of torpedo action cues sure is remarkable Night Crossing - essential Papillon - essential The Secret of Nimh - essential Mulan - great late animation/asia score, the commercial release sucks ass, sadly The 13th Warrior - in Small Soldiers mode, of course it's great the orchestration is so scaled down it might become a bit monotonous after a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I agree the synth work in Hoosiers is dated, but I still really like the main theme a lot, and how Goldsmith plays around with it too. It's very inspirational sounding, but it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Sure but like 'Rudy', there's something quaint-but-square about it. Inspiring by not being especially inspired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Cheesy but earnest. Goldsmith was never an ironic composer. He always treated the subject matter seriously. Rudy, i was deeply moved by it when i heard Goldsmith conduct a generous suite in 2001, with the LSO. Compositionally straight forward and simple. It does the job beautifully though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 It's more a genre thing. Movies like this were Horner's alley (though Horner never would've gotten the pep right), Goldsmith always seemed a bit lost without at least a bit of ambivalence he could latch onto. 'Rudy' is probably worse in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 3 hours ago, publicist said: Night Crossing - essential I just put this on my wishlist! Sounds great! https://youtu.be/ecs2TPGdnLk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 2 hours ago, publicist said: It's more a genre thing. Movies like this were Horner's alley (though Horner never would've gotten the pep right), Goldsmith always seemed a bit lost without at least a bit of ambivalence he could latch onto. 'Rudy' is probably worse in that regard. It is very "feel good" compares to Basic Instinct, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 This trailer is so goofy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 Well, it's not so much a trailer, than a small scene from the movie.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 The movie is even goofier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Ruuudy! Ruuudy! Ruuudy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 He doesn't have Rudy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 "Must-haves" is a vague term, especially when it comes to Goldsmith with his huge output of scores that are different enough that there are the established classics and a wide range of personal favourites. Here's twelve: Star Trek: The Final Frontier Night Crossing The Blue Max Planet of the Apes Rambo: First Blood Part II (or First Blood - depending on which one you actually have) The Great Train Robbery Baby - Secret of the Lost Legend The 13th Warrior Bad Girls Capricorn One The Cassandra Crossing Logan's Run And twelve more in that other thread. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Twelve more: The Edge Fierce Creatures The Going Up of David Lev Lionheart Mulan (I'd wait for an official score release) Outland The Secret of N.I.M.H Rudy The Shadow Under Fire Twilight Zone: The Movie Wild Rovers Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 You like my 12 scores here better than my other 12 in the other thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Twelve more: The Edge Fierce Creatures The Going Up of David Lev Lionheart Mulan (I'd wait for an official score release) Outland The Secret of N.I.M.H Rudy The Shadow Under Fire Twilight Zone: The Movie Wild Rovers Thanks! But give me two more, because I already own Under Fire and The Shadow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Coma Escape from the Planet of the Apes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Masada OST rerecording Basic Instinct (Quarter complete release) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Basic Instinct (Quarter complete release) I haven't progressed to collecting the expanded or complete Jerry Goldsmith CDs yet.... I'm not sure I ever will. JG is a composer whose works I like a lot, but I don't feel the need to hear every single note he wrote. A good representation of the scores is all I need, really. And even then, I mainly only listen to the main themes, only sometimes to the whole album. This is in stark contrast to John Williams, of course. I buy every single expanded album of his that are released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Star Trek V: The Final Frontier Twilight Zone: The Movie First Blood Rudy The Haunting It's really inexcusable that you don't have these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 All the Rambo's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, The Doctor said: Star Trek V: The Final Frontier Twilight Zone: The Movie First Blood Rudy The Haunting Good ones! And I really want The Vanishing too! Anybody has this score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Bottlecap collector! Gnome in Plaid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 1 minute ago, publicist said: Bottlecap collector! For you, maybe. Doesn't mean other people don't appreciate it! Do you have it at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Of course i have it. But you have much more important stuff to add to your collection before entering the lame-o early to mid 90's phase. Mediocre movies, mediocre scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, publicist said: Of course i have it. But you have much more important stuff to add to your collection before entering the lame-o early to mid 90's phase. Mediocre movies, mediocre scores. Sure, but I can't really choose the order in which to get them. What I find, I'll buy. Just don't needlessly bash scores just because you don't like them! Other people might! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Mediocre is mediocre. Its no needless bashing but i wouldn't be sure if you are actually able to distinguish, going by your likings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 The Vanishing is lower rung 90's Goldsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, publicist said: Mediocre is mediocre. Its no needless bashing but i wouldn't be sure if you are actually able to distinguish, going by your likings. Same thing could be said about you! You sound like a Nazi, anybody ever told you that? You should try to appreciate that there's no accounting for taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Especially not for bad taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Josh500 said: You sound like a Nazi, anybody ever told you that? Well, he is German! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Germans make great leather jackets. And headphones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, Stefancos said: Well, he is German! Well, that explains it! 😂 Just now, The Doctor said: Germans make great leather jackets. And headphones! Not to mention cars! I drive a Mercedes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, The Doctor said: Germans make great leather jackets. We do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 I think he means Lederhosen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 A compact overview of what you have and what you should get. Bold titles are titles you do not have. The number of exclamation marks indicates, how urgently you need them (IMO): 60s: Rio Conchos The Sand Pebbles! The Blue Max! Planet of the Apes 70s: Patton!! Papillon!!! Chinatown!! The Wind and the Lion!!! The Omen Logan's Run! Islands in the Stream! Damien: Omen II Magic The Boys from Brazil!!! Capricorn One!! Coma! The Swarm! Alien Star Trek: The Motion Picture 80s: Inchon! The Final Conflict Masada!!! Outland! Night Crossing!!! Poltergeist First Blood!! The Challenge! The Secret of NIMH!!! Under Fire Psycho II! Twilight Zone: The Movie!! Gremlins Rambo: First Blood Part II Legend Explorers!! Hoosiers!! Poltergeist II: The Other Side!! Lionheart!! Extreme Prejudice!! Innerspace! Rambo III The 'Burbs!!! Star Trek V: The Final Frontier!!! Warlock! Leviathan! 90s: Total Recall The Russia House Gremlins 2: The New Batch Not Without My Daughter Sleeping with the Enemy! Forever Young Basic Instinct Medicine Man Dennis the Menace Malice Rudy! Matinee! Angie The Shadow The River Wild Powder The First Knight Congo City Hall Ghost and the Darkness Star Trek: First Contact Executive Decision! Chain Reaction! Air Force One LA Confidential The Edge!! U.S. Marshals! Deep Rising! Mulan!!! Small Soldiers!! Star Trek: Insurrection!! The Mummy The Haunting! The 13th Warrior!! 2000s: Hollow Man The Last Castle! The Sum of All Fears Star Trek: Nemesis Looney Tunes Timeline! There are huge gaps in the late 80s and you have no single Franklin J. Schaffner-Jerry Goldsmith collaboration! Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 @Brundlefly Thank you, very helpful! Actually I do have POTA, of course I do! I just forgot to include it on my list! But I corrected that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Josh500 said: Actually I do have POTA, of course I do! I just forgot to include it on my list! But I corrected that. Corrected it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 4 hours ago, Brundlefly said: A compact overview of what you have and what you should get. Bold titles are titles you do not have. The number of exclamation marks indicates, how urgently you need them (IMO): 70s: Patton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chinatown!! The Wind and the Lion!!! Islands in the Stream!!!!!!!!!!!!! Coma! 80s: Inchon! Hoosiers!! Star Trek V: The Final Frontier!!! 90s: U.S. Marshals! The 13th Warrior!! Nice overview (actually reminded me about some albums I'd like to get). I quoted the ones I'd prioritize (with a lot of exclamation marks added for Patton and Islands in the Stream). You left out a couple of really incredible scores from his early career, though: Freud and City of Fear are essential Goldsmith. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Off the top of my head, SEs of EXPLORERS EFTPOTA STAR TREK:V FIRST CONTACT NEMESIS PAPILLON MASADA OSTs of PSYCHO II PATTON TORA! TORA! TORA! THE SUM OF I'm sorry, I'm too embarrassed to continue Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Josh you really need to get Twilight Zone The Movie for sure. Just order the FSM CD from Screen Archives, don't wait for the old OST to maybe show up in some store. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Agreed. Its a lovely score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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