E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial La-La Land MUSIC Discussion

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

What book?

[phbart 609]

 

1 hour ago, OneBuckFilms said:

All I have is the top-left corner edition. It closes the book.

It's for sure the definitive edition. I wouldn't discard the 1996 edition, as it contains some "wrong takes" that I like and are not in the alternate section of CD2, such as the "E.T. Alone" section, "Frogs", "At Home", "Sending the Signal" and the "Bike Chase" section, simply called "Chase". And the 2002 SACD because, even though the 5.1 section is mostly front heavy, it's very nice to listen to this music on more than 2 channels.

 

54 minutes ago, Baby Jane Hudson said:

What book?

This one?

[Bespin 8,480]

Ha-hum. The Michael Jackson storybook remains to be re-released.

 

He was so cute, what a mess.

 

[phbart 609]

Isn't owned by another label?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Most likely.

 

I doubt LLL could afford the rights to anything Michael Jackson related.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Sony Epic brickwalls the shit out of MJ album remasters these days.

[Bespin 8,480]

I want to make sure that you understand I made a Joke.

 

I never listened to this storybook and absolutely don't care about it !

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

A joke is... a story with a humourous climax?

[phbart 609]

E.T. accused Michael Jackson on twitter of improper behaviour during the recording sessions of the album, and he would join Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey if he was alive. So, following this scandal, the plans for a release were cancelled.

[Omen II 1,235]

#me.t.oo

[Kühni 485]

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[Jay 37,287]

The LLL CD is 100% comprehensive, providing the proper takes used in the film for every single cue, plus every alternate recorded, all the stuff recorded just for the 1982 OST album, the ride music, etc.

 

The only thing the 1996 and 2002 expansions contain that aren't are here are some wrong takes that the producers of those CDs used instead of the proper film takes.

 

This might be of interest to you

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vT0E9cHkK-SqctUuLKYjNov1cm3DB7Dol3CCfQqmXPJUbNqwIrwdNTtn4FqV212S-3e_GltYaEDIUM8/pubhtml

[Kühni 485]

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[Jay 37,287]

Any time

[Kühni 485]

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[Jay 37,287]

LLL's CE3K is similarly 100% comprehensive, there isn't a single thing on the OST LP or 1998 CD that isn't on the new CD - unless you care about the disco track.

 

In the case of CE3K, no alternate takes exist on any prior CD, its always been the same takes in the film and on releases.

[Kühni 485]

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[Jay 37,287]

It's kind of hard for you to say that, since the new set contains music that wasn't in the film and has been sitting in a vault unheard for 40 years, so you don't know if you like it until you've heard it.  Have you checked out the samples on LLL's site?

 

http://www.lalalandrecords.com/Site/CloseEncounters.html

[Marian Schedenig 8,173]

Still waiting for my E.T. to ship...

[Smeltington 1,436]

What's the best CD source for the disco track?

[Bespin 8,480]

10 minutes ago, Smeltington said:

What's the best CD source for the disco track?

 

Disco Time! Disco Time! Com'on Baby!

 

(Reissued in 2015 as a SACD, Audio Fidelity/Sony Music Commercial Music Group, AFZ 226) Main Title And Mountain Visions; Nocturnal Pursuit; The Abduction Of Barry; I Can't Believe It's Real; Climbing Devil's Tower; The Arrival Of Sky Harbor; Night Seige; The Conversation; The Appearance Of The Visitors; Resolution And End Title; BONUS TRACK: Theme From Close Encounters of The Third Kind (disco version).

[Smeltington 1,436]

Nice thanks 

[Jay 37,287]

33 minutes ago, Smeltington said:

What's the best CD source for the disco track?

 

http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/110224/John_Williams-Close_Encounters_Of_The_Third_Kind-Hybrid_Stereo_SACD

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

12 hours ago, Jay said:

 

http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/110224/John_Williams-Close_Encounters_Of_The_Third_Kind-Hybrid_Stereo_SACD

 

I'm listening to this disc right now.

[Ollie 1,059]

I got that one for $3.99 when Hastings went out of business.

 

I still have the Varese CD too.

[Amer 2,080]

21 hours ago, Kühni said:

Ironically, the only track on the new CE3K release I *do* care about is "Inside". But I can't go spending money for a new CD just because of one track, those days are long past!

There are a bunch of unreleased cues besides that one. Also the proper remixing and remastering and presentation are worthy of the admission price alone. 

[Bespin 8,480]

Can't we stop talking about money here? Expanded releases are a lucrative business, and in the case of John Williams who always was a "milionnaire" of records, it is especially true.

 

I mean, go on another forum if you don't have money, stop bashing that this or this release don't worth the money.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

JWFan - Playground of the Rich and Powerful

[Bespin 8,480]

2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

JWFan - Playground of the Rich and Powerful

 

Can we create a subforum for the poorest JW"fans"? 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

2 hours ago, Bespin said:

Expanded releases are a lucrative business, and in the case of John Williams who always was a "milionnaire" of records, it is expecially true.

 

Not really. I don't think you realize that a simple 2 CD set often represents years of work, and is sold in limited numbers for only $29,95.

 

I guess the labels are turning a profit, but no one involved is getting rich from it.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

Tell that to Matessino's 5 Ferraris and 4 Porsches.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Yeah but they're all old, second hand Ferrari's.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Why is it mostly middle-to-upper-class white men who are active in committed film score consumption? Is film music misogynistic or something?

[Jurassic Shark 12,030]

14 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

Yeah but they're all old, second hand Ferrari's.

 

Oh, so then they don't count.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Of course they don't count.

[Ricard 2,242]

22 hours ago, Bespin said:

 

BONUS TRACK: Theme From Close Encounters of The Third Kind (disco version).

 

The actual name of the track is just "Theme From Close Encounters of the Third Kind"

[Bespin 8,480]

3 hours ago, Rick said:

 

The actual name of the track is just "Theme From Close Encounters of the Third Kind"

 

True but we have to warn people.  Listening to this disco track can leave serious aftermath.

 

[mstrox 6,647]

On 12/2/2017 at 7:27 AM, Bespin said:

 

Can we create a subforum for the poorest JW"fans"? 

 

Better to create a subforum for the richest JWFANs and let the poor ones just have “Other Topics.”  Wouldn’t want any poors to start feeling entitled!

[FC4L 87]

I'm confused about some of the tracks on disc 2 vs the presentation and track names on disc 1. Is D2-18 E.T. is Dying is presented in alternate form elsewhere on disc 1?

[crumbs 14,300]

1 hour ago, FC4L said:

I'm confused about some of the tracks on disc 2 vs the presentation and track names on disc 1. Is D2-18 E.T. is Dying is presented in alternate form elsewhere on disc 1?

 

I think E.T. Is Dying is just an early version of Stay With Me. So arguably it's Stay With Me (Alternate) but the original version had a different cue title so they retained it.

 

I think it's also the version of the cue and track title they used on the previous score release, so they kept it for consistency.

[Jay 37,287]

11 hours ago, FC4L said:

I'm confused about some of the tracks on disc 2 vs the presentation and track names on disc 1. Is D2-18 E.T. is Dying is presented in alternate form elsewhere on disc 1?

 

This should answer all your questions:

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vT0E9cHkK-SqctUuLKYjNov1cm3DB7Dol3CCfQqmXPJUbNqwIrwdNTtn4FqV212S-3e_GltYaEDIUM8/pubhtml

 

But to speak to that, D2T18 is "9M2 Stay With Me" as originally recorded, as has been released before on the 1996 and 2002  CDs as "ET Is Dying", which is why it has that name here.

 

After it was recorded, Spielberg asked for a rewrite. So almost the entire cue (the first ~90 seconds) was rewritten, and that Insert was recorded at the album recording sessions as "9M2 New Intro".   

 

So, D1T18 is 9M2 New Intro combined with the end of the original 9M2 and released as simply "Stay With Me" since that album title hadn't been used before.

[FC4L 87]

Thanks for the info.

[Jay 37,287]

No problem!

[Disco Stu 15,495]

"Toys" restored.  Isolated score only, but still neat.

 

EDIT:

See new thread here for my isolated score videos

 

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

OVER THE MOON: E.T. the Extra Terrestrial 35th Anniversary Remastered Edition (La La Land Records)

After a few weeks of warming up to this set I'm finally ready to share all my thoughts. While shipping was a bit longer than originally anticipated, it was well worth the wait. This is my first John Williams expansion, and I figure it's not a bad one to get started with, eh? Haha.

 

The entire presentation of the discs, the inserts, the artwork, and the liner notes is phenomenal.  Jim Titus' artwork is different than past covers and designs of the numerous releases this score has received, and it's probably the best. I think after enough re-releases we've gotten use to the "touching fingers in the light of the moon" and all, but if you liked that idea it's still printed onto the discs (quite nicely, I should add, as CD 2 is actually the outline of the same thing but with a constellation). Flipping over to the back, the general theme of the packaging continues. The entire track list is there to gaze at once more (as I did many times on the website while it was shipping) before I finally popped in CD 1.

 

The first time I listened, I read the introductory notes first, then started the music, following along Mike Matessino's notes for The Film Score Presentation. Very well done on that front, although I've read and heard so much about E.T. that there weren't any surprising tidbits, just easy to follow film-to-score connections and cues. That is always welcome. I wasn't crazy about reading through the perfect third comparisons with CE3K and such, but seeing as these sets were released and probably ordered by many around the same time it makes sense as a bridge between the two. Of course, I still need to purchase the CE3K set, but I'm extremely happy with what I have.

 

The music doesn't need a lot of explanation. This will always be, arguably, one of John Williams' magnum opus'. It is a masterpiece, whether you think it to be manipulating or not. 

 

CD 1 is basically a perfect listening experience. Beginning with the eerie Main Title, and into Far From Home / E.T. Alone, one of my favourite cues of the film, opening with the Call motif and exhibiting one of the more action-entailing themes of the score- the Keys theme, which I quite enjoy. The next many tracks follow Elliott meeting E.T., and progress upon a few leitmotifs while introducing a few more. E.T. and Elliott Get Drunk is very fun and comical. The Magic of Halloween contains the always smile-inducing cameo of Yoda's theme. At Home might just be one of my favourite cues as well- it's very calm and melodious. Of course, the greatest back-to-back-to-back in film score history is probably The Rescue and Bike Chase, The Departure, and the lovely End Credits.Just under twenty minutes, the finale of this score is legendary. I've heard it many times before, but it was certainly very special hearing it again in culmination with the rest of the set. I've always loved the piano rendition of the Friendship theme in End Credits, and the effortless cycling and shifting (two puns there) of themes in The Rescue and Bike Chase gave me the chills. It's just such wonderful music.

 

CD 2 begins with the remastered OST from the 1982 album. It's a pretty good album, and the remastered sound is top-notch quality. Adventure on Earth arranges parts of the finale sequence quite well. The alternates and additional music are the tracks I've listened to the least, naturally, but they are a testament to the definitive nature and high quality of this release.

 

In conclusion, I must say that La La Land Records have really impressed me. I've always enjoyed hearing about these sets, but to actually order, receive and immerse myself in one of them for the first time has been a pleasure. 

[Jurassic Shark 12,030]

On 11/17/2017 at 11:03 PM, phbart said:

I guess it's time to close the books on ET now.

 

You could have done more.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

That joke is getting old now!

[Jurassic Shark 12,030]

It's a classic!

[MrScratch 294]

The OST cover is still my favorite.

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

It's wonderful in its simplicity.