E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial La-La Land MUSIC Discussion

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

On 4/29/2019 at 8:21 PM, Jurassic Shark said:

It's a classic!

 

You mean vintage?

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

Geez, Louise.

[phbart 609]

On 4/29/2019 at 2:45 PM, Jurassic Shark said:

 

You could have done more.

You're so right... I forgot the vinyl.

[bollemanneke 3,334]

Could we have a forum rule that bans or severely punishes anyone who uses that Schindler quote from now on?

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

Are you saying we need more forum rules?

[phbart 609]

They should make a rule that bans anyone who talks about John Williams here.

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

You're referring to the guitarist, right?

[phbart 609]

That made me remind of a friend of mine. Many years ago I told him I was a fan of John Williams, and for my birthday he bought me a CD of John Williams... the guitarist!

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

He's not a friend anymore, I presume.

[phbart 609]

He was hit by a truck a week later... and I gave the CD to my sister so she could use as a mirror.

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

Did you tell him it was the wrong JW?

[phbart 609]

Not exactly. To not hurt his feelings, I told him JW had a second career as a guitar player but was embarassed by it, and instead of changing his name like "Directed by Alan Smithee", he changed his image (ever notice how both are bald?). But I got drunk during the party, so I ended up telling him he was a useless son of a bitch and anyone who don't know the difference between JW the Maestro and JW the guitarist deserves a slow and painfull death.

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

...and then you hit him with a truck. Wow. You don't mess with John Williams (the composer).

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

5 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

You're referring to the guitarist, right?

 

There's another John Williams?

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

There's the actor in the original Sabrina film.

[theMaestraX 106]

What a GREAT play this & also the 2002 version!

[fommes 153]

What section from E.T. Phones Home - Album Version (OST) - is not the film take like on the LLL?

[Holko 9,491]

From a quick visual Audacity comparison all I see is that the OST one plays a tad faster.

[Jay 37,258]

IIRC the album version is one take all the way through, while the film (and therefore LLL disc 1) version is mostly that same take, but they intercut to a different take for a small section for a performance issue - I just don't remember where

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

On 10/4/2017 at 2:08 AM, Erik Woods said:

Although "Adventure on Earth" went through a massive transformation.  Still sounds bright and vibrant... as always... but you can tell by looks at the waveforms how much work was put into that cue specifically.

 

Could you elaborate on this, please?

[Boreli 1]

Any chance of a re-release ?

[bruce marshall 1,314]

I have:

45 rpm single

Ost LP

THE E.T. STORYBOOK LP.

Ost CD

Expanded 20th anniversary CD

 

Isn't that enough?!😞

[Smeltington 1,436]

If you don't have Botanicus, you better not show your face in this forum, pardner.

[bruce marshall 1,314]

On 10/4/2017 at 1:00 PM, phbart said:

The back cover says 77:57 for CD1, and Kiss has 0:41. It would fit.

😅

 

43 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

😅

 

 

You hafta admit...thats a pretty good meme!

On 10/6/2017 at 12:03 PM, phbart said:

Utter analog incompetence...from the producers....

😡😠

[Boreli 1]

1 hour ago, bruce marshall said:

I have:

Expanded 20th anniversary CD

 

Isn't that enough?!😞

I mean release new copies of this one (La La Land edition)...

[bruce marshall 1,314]

I bought a 2cd case.

Then, I put the ost in one.spindle.

NEXT , place the 2002 CD in the other spindle.

Finally, take the front and back covers from 2002 and place in jewel case. Take the ost booklet and place it behind forntage with cover showing.

Voila! E.T. 2cd special edition!😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😍😍😍😍😍

[Amer 2,078]

In case you missed it,  the OST reissue can be found in the 4k Blu ray release. But no bonus cues etc. 

[Jay 37,258]

13 hours ago, Boreli said:

Any chance of a re-release ?

 

 

You missed it. It's sold out / out of print.

 

https://lalalandrecords.com/e-t-the-extra-terrestrial-35th-anniversary-limited-edition-2-cd-set/

 

If you are OK with vinyl instead of CD, that is still in print:

 

https://lalalandrecords.com/e-t-the-extra-terrestrial-limited-edition-vinyl-2xlp/

 

However that doesn't have all the bonus tracks the CD version did.

 

 

You can find 3rd parties selling the OOP CD on Amazon or Ebay

 

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B075MYT4DJ/

https://www.ebay.com/itm/264738992806

https://www.ebay.com/itm/264747128672

https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/10855400?ev=rb

 

etc

[Boreli 1]

18 hours ago, Amer said:

In case you missed it,  the OST reissue can be found in the 4k Blu ray release. But no bonus cues etc. 

Will buy it now!

8 hours ago, Jay said:

 

 

You missed it. It's sold out / out of print.

 

https://lalalandrecords.com/e-t-the-extra-terrestrial-35th-anniversary-limited-edition-2-cd-set/

 

If you are OK with vinyl instead of CD, that is still in print:

 

https://lalalandrecords.com/e-t-the-extra-terrestrial-limited-edition-vinyl-2xlp/

 

However that doesn't have all the bonus tracks the CD version did.

 

 

You can find 3rd parties selling the OOP CD on Amazon or Ebay

 

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B075MYT4DJ/

https://www.ebay.com/itm/264738992806

https://www.ebay.com/itm/264747128672

https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/10855400?ev=rb

 

etc

Many thanks!

[Jay 37,258]

No problem

[Naïve Old Fart 9,489]

On 8/4/2020 at 12:49 AM, bruce marshall said:

I have:

45 rpm single

Ost LP

THE E.T. STORYBOOK LP.

Ost CD

Expanded 20th anniversary CD

 

Isn't that enough?!😞

No. You don't have the 1996 CD (the sound is better than the 2002 CD), the OST vinyl picture disc, and, of course, the LLL 2-disc set.

It's not enough.

[bruce marshall 1,314]

26 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

No. You don't have the 1996 CD (the sound is better than the 2002 CD), the OST vinyl picture disc, and, of course, the LLL 2-disc set.

It's not enough.

I could have bought more😞

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

Go to bed, Bruce.

[bruce marshall 1,314]

56 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Go to bed, Bruce.

I could have snored more

[Holko 9,491]

Listened to this again. What a masterpiece! The best part is how all the related themes are given time to show up and blossom, statements of the Flying Theme (as almost a synthesis of The Call and Friendship, which we've heard plenty of) feel incredibly well-earned and satisfying when they're not overplayed like on the OST - even when it soars in Halloween, it's over a shaky foundation and lands with a thud, it's just not the time for it yet, not taking the spotlight from Bike Chase -, how after the brilliant overture we take an extended time to dedicate gorgeous quiet harp textures to relationship growth, until the threat starts creeping back in and pushing the score to start being more extroverted, the lovely 3-cue setpiece in the middle (Get Drunk, Frogs, Kiss), wonderful further developments, falling action and a fantastic build to a pitch perfect extended finale. Still worthy of my top favourite score spot shared with STAR WARS.

 

I love Far From Home/E.T. Alone (alternate)! The high tuba is an interesting touch but it's the early mothership departure that makes it - somehow it has an elegant but unfulfilled majesty, suggestions of a beautiful shape but the cue as is is just reaching for it and not succeeding in getting there, eventually just giving up (which of course fits perfectly with the scene it scores). I have to wonder if JW was thinking of bookending with a more complete reprise at some point. My second favourite of the alternates is End Credits, such a different feel to that opening with all those returning wind stabs and brass pedaling.

[Datameister 2,034]

Isn't it wonderful? This is one score for which I think the expanded presentation is SUCH a better representation of the score than the OST. For me, the OST basically comes across as a repetitive collection of well-written concert suites and alternate versions. So, like, I'm very grateful to have it, but if I want to go on a musical journey, the sequencing in the film is the way to go. My only complaint with listening to the score that way is that the softer cues in the first third get a little old for me. They're very nice but they just last, like, one or two tracks too long. I have a playlist that slightly reconfigures the LLL release to incorporate things like "The Kiss" into the main presentation, and I briefly tried actually removing one or two of those shorter tracks. I may go back to that at some point.

 

Anyway, yes, this LLL release is essential and I'm so grateful it made it into our hands! Can't believe it's already been three years.

[bruce marshall 1,314]

On 8/3/2020 at 6:58 PM, bruce marshall said:

I bought a 2cd case.

Then, I put the ost in one.spindle.

NEXT , place the 2002 CD in the other spindle.

Finally, take the front and back covers from 2002 and place in jewel case. Take the ost booklet and place it behind forntage with cover showing.

Voila! E.T. 2cd special edition!😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😍😍😍😍😍

Last step in making your own deluxe editions:

 

[Holko 9,491]

26 minutes ago, Datameister said:

For me, the OST basically comes across as a repetitive collection of well-written concert suites and alternate versions.

Yes, why would you put a concert arrangement of the Flying Theme right after the concertised Halloween with an extended Flying section at the end? Or interrupt the fantastic Alive/Rescue transition only to play an arrangement of the Suburbia theme which is featured heavily in Rescue already? It definitely feels more repetitive.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Oh god you anti-ET-OST people are mad.

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

It's a perfect album on its own terms.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Yep, it's a concept album. But these bozos think it "gives away too much too early" or something. As if those themes stated early are... a spoiler?? There's no way you could make that score as it was in the film chronologically really sing on a 40 minute LP unless your goal was to make most of Side 1 and some of Side 2 a hard slog of dissonance and near silence. The album recognises the overall score's limitations in accessibility, so it wisely highlights the musical ideas across the board.

[GerateWohl 4,321]

On the OST record I missed cues I heard in the film.

When I had the score CD I missed the suites from the OST.

I had to wait for the LLL 2 disc to get everything I desired combined.

 

But in the meantime, when I listen to E.T. I play the OST (disc 2).

 

[Jay 37,258]

cues, not queues

[GerateWohl 4,321]

25 minutes ago, Jay said:

cues, not queues

You are right. Fixed.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

They're songs.

[Jurassic Shark 12,008]

6 hours ago, The Big Man said:

Oh god you anti-ET-OST people are mad.

 

For every Thor there's an anti-Thor that brings balance to the force. 

 

[Chewy 2,372]

4 hours ago, Jay said:

cues, not queues

His name is Byron, not Bryon.

[Datameister 2,034]

5 hours ago, The Big Man said:

Yep, it's a concept album. But these bozos think it "gives away too much too early" or something. As if those themes stated early are... a spoiler?? There's no way you could make that score as it was in the film chronologically really sing on a 40 minute LP unless your goal was to make most of Side 1 and some of Side 2 a hard slog of dissonance and near silence. The album recognises the overall score's limitations in accessibility, so it wisely highlights the musical ideas across the board.

 

I have no problem with him creating a new "concept album" listening experience for the OST; the score does indeed have long stretches of similar material. I also love every individual track on the OST. I just think it's a crappy program in the middle. Doesn't flow. That has nothing to do with the chronology of the film - I just mean on a purely musical basis.

 

Honestly, the biggest culprit is "Flying" being right after "E.T.'s Halloween." Even if you just switch "Flying" and "Over the Moon", you already end up with a vastly improved program. Or if you want to deviate further from the film, put "Flying" right after "Three Million Light Years From Home", letting "E.T.'s. Halloween" lead right into "E.T. Phone Home." I prefer either of those options over the sequence we got on the OST.

[bruce marshall 1,314]

I never thought of that but, I do see your point about FLYING.

It's misplaced.

The thing is, it's original incarnation wad LP and that cue was the last on side one.

The practice in.those days was end a side with a STRONG cue.

Tis.what it is.

1 hour ago, Chewy said:

His name is Byron, not Bryon.

We have to accept the fact that his name is always going to be confusing and move on.😊

[Datameister 2,034]

1 hour ago, bruce marshall said:

I never thought of that but, I do see your point about FLYING.

It's misplaced.

The thing is, it's original incarnation wad LP and that cue was the last on side one.

The practice in.those days was end a side with a STRONG cue.

Tis.what it is.

We have to accept the fact that his name is always going to be confusing and move on.😊

 

Fair point about the LP! Makes more sense in the original setting than when they released it on CD.