#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I was told over 15 years ago TOD might have been recorded digitally. The other 2 were clearly analog of course. I'll be honest I don't know about TOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,307 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 It could have been recorded simultaneously on digital and analog, like Predator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 That's how Botnick used to do, before going to 100% digital. At least, with Jerry Goldsmith, that's how it was done after Star Trek '79, where only couple of cues were recorded digitally. Steve Hoffman mentioned in his forum many years ago that there was a digital recording for E.T. too, that he himself mastered in the 80's, but he doesn't know if it was used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Anybody else think that JW made a really bad choice when he programmed the Flying Theme right after Halloween? It somehow doesn't work for me. Wouldn't it have been better had he opened the OST with the flying theme instead of the endless repetitions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Anybody else think that JW made a really bad choice when he programmed the Flying Theme right after Halloween? It somehow doesn't work for me. Wouldn't it have been better had he opened the OST with the flying theme instead of the endless repetitions? "somehow doesn't work for" you. What a surprise.... igger6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 It actually works brilliantly. The Halloween cue introduced the Flying theme in the score. Its very sudden and very full after such a restraint portion of the score. And to then fully take the theme to its natural conclusion in Flying! Brilliant album! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,307 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2017 36 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Anybody else think that JW made a really bad choice when he programmed the Flying Theme right after Halloween? It somehow doesn't work for me. Wouldn't it have been better had he opened the OST with the flying theme instead of the endless repetitions? You know, I've been meaning to talk about the original ET OST LP after listening to it a lot lately, and this reminds me to do so. Controversial: I kinda don't think its as immaculate of an album as most people here do. The problem I have with it is, its VERY heavy on the flying theme, appearing in big grandiose statements in 4 out of 8 tracks, and its very light on the Keys theme, which is an omniscient presence throughout the complete score, but here only appears at the beginning when its introduced, then disappears until its final presentation from the end. The complete score offers so much more nuance and variety than the album program does. The 5 album-only concert arrangements are all brilliant, but when taking those 20 minutes and figuring out what other 20 minutes from the film's score cues to include to create the 40 minute album, I dunno if he made the best choices. In my opinion. Ricard, bollemanneke and Demondm810 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I see your point. As a fair and balanced representation of the full score the OST is flawed. But as a pure 45 minute listening experience its second to none. And for me still a very emotional rollercoaster. E.T. goes back to my early days as a soundtrack collector and filmscore fan. Ive heard the OST hundreds of times. I'm still in awe with it. Like the Jurassic Park OST, or the Jaws OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,307 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 The Jaws OST LP I think is great. Yes the complete score offers some more variety, but he really got every important highlight in there and it all flows extremely well. I never liked the Jurassic Park OST program and have always preferred listening to that score in chronological order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 What's your favorite 45 minute OST? I thought Raiders was great. TOD never flowed right. Or ROTJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,307 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 Probably The Wrath of Khan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Thats a brilliant album. The FSM is great ofcourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,307 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 Yup, I still listen to the complete score more frequently now, but that original album is expertly sequenced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 For me, the E.T. OST would be perfect if "The Magic of Halloween" replaced "E.T.'s Halloween"... I'd go even further and had "Three Million Light Years From Home" and "Abandoned and Pursued" for the film version "Far From Home/E.T. Alone", but I'd probably be executed by lethal injection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Recently got the End Credits without the narration. Its sounds weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,307 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2017 Oh I am eternally grateful for that, I don't need narration over my film music The Illustrious Jerry, enderdrag64 and Bilbo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I find the E.T. Album to be a fantastic distillation of the score's musical ideas, and will certainly revisit it. But I am certainly a sucker for the complete presentation. There is just so much wonderful material, and the last 3 cues of CD 1 are probably some of the best and most enjoyable film music experiences I can think of. This score is truly magic, something Mr. Williams has an obvious gift for. 1 minute ago, Jay said: Oh I am eternally grateful for that, I don't need narration over my film music I go back and forth on that one, since Leonard Nimoy's narration is such an emotionally important note to the story. But the version without the narration is in the main programme in my digital copy of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Well, I'm listening to this for the first time. Right off the bat, I'm kind of disturbed by the excessive bass. It never sounded like this before in any version I've listened to. I prefer the previous album versions of Far From Home/E.T. Alone to this one. The removal of stage noise is disappointing. I prefer Sending the Signal, for instance, with the weird clanging. The creaking is gone from the end credits... The previously unreleased music seems to sound better than the rest of the music. The last minute or so of the alternate E.T. Alone sounds like the music I remember from the E.T. Adventure line. I believe this is exactly what I heard years ago playing faintly on a loop before you board the ride vehicle. It's the exact rendition of the Keyes theme I distinctly remember. The beginning of Botanicus sounds like the beginning of the alternate Meeting E.T. The plot thickens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 So I don't have time to read all the previouvs post. The OST album program, is the sound better than the old 80s CDs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,307 Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 In my opinion? Yes - though of course, the original CD never sounded bad in any way whatsoever. Everyone's ears are different, though, and some might feel differently. Listen for yourself and make your own decision! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I didn't hear anything to make me believe it sounded better than the original CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 The OST sounds great. Very natural actually. Still one of my favorite recordings. Miguel Andrade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 The 80s CD, especially Track 2, thumps my speakers like not many others. Not sure how they'd be able to improve on that other than just to put their own stamp on it. But as long as it sounds better than the 2002 CD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Bespin said: So I don't have time to read all the previouvs post. The OST album program, is the sound better than the old 80s CDs? They improved what was already good. So yes, it is. 29 minutes ago, Baby Jane Hudson said: The 80s CD, especially Track 2, thumps my speakers like not many others. Not sure how they'd be able to improve on that other than just to put their own stamp on it. But as long as it sounds better than the 2002 CD... After this release, you won't want to get near the 2002 CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I'm still fascinated by the alternate Far From Home/ET Alone. Even that high Tuba is growing on me. Such a freaking treat to hear stuff like this 35 years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Degraden elements? Incorrect, unbalanced mix? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 KM said the sound is dissapointing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,307 Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 King Mark has no posts in this thread. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 He told me! How does it sound Jason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 The sound is dissapointing? Was he listening to RotJ instead? Or Jaws 2000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 There's nothing wrong with ROTJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, phbart said: The sound is dissapointing? Was he listening to RotJ instead? Or Jaws 2000? Oh God, Jaws 2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,307 Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 19 minutes ago, Stefancos said: He told me! How does it sound Jason? How does this new ET 2CD sound? Spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Just now, Baby Jane Hudson said: There's nothing wrong with ROTJ. Which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Just now, phbart said: Which one? The only one. The OST. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 That has great sound! Extremely natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Yes, that and the '93 Anthology as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I think ET sounds fantastic. I am somewhat mystified by the negative reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,307 Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 The only person who has posted a negative reaction to the sound quality is Justin, of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Well I will admit to being underwhelmed by the ET Ride music, especially given the excitement people had here for it. Other than that, this set is excellent. I have no complaints whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I agree with The Jefe. The ride music is nice to have, but I think everyone's chants of "BOTANICUS" may have built me up for disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I've been spending most of my listening on the score on CD 1, and although I listened to the OST and the unreleased cues on CD 2, I skipped Botanicus due to time. There is always that one cue that may not be as amazing as all get out, but which everyone wants and generally enjoys, leading to the fevered buzz of Botanicus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I had the same reaction to Goldsmith’s Soarin ride cue when it finally came out on CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: The only person who has posted a negative reaction to the sound quality is Justin, of course Too much bass. Way too much. Also, I've pointed out that the alternate ending to E.T. Alone is the Holy Grail mystery music played in the E.T. Adventure line and no one seems to appreciate how happy I am to finally have this. You're focusing on the negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,307 Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 You added that your post after initially creating that post, so I never saw it until now. I'm glad you figured that out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 So E.T. Alone from CD2 is played in the waiting line? I think I'll rename it to "Waiting for Botanicus". crumbs and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 On 05/10/2017 at 4:57 PM, Jay said: I mean he might have said digital when it wasn't digital TOD was recorded digitally. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 So the issues are due to utter incompetence from the producers of the 2008 set, as I imagined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,307 Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 It could have been recorded simultaneously on digital and analog, and for the 2008 sets they grabbed the analog tapes, and then didn't calibrate the machines properly when making new digital transfers. You wouldn't end up with music playing at constantly different speeds if they grabbed the digital masters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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