Josh500 1,615 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Rate Sleepers! What do you like about this score? Also which are your favourite standout tracks!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 John Williams doesn't make me sleep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 I really love the gorgeous flute solo toward the end, but other than that one track, I'm not really familiar with this score. Just wondering whether somebody considers this one of their favorite dramatic scores by JW. 5 minutes ago, phbart said: John Williams doesn't make me sleep... What an endorsement! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I've listened to it once or twice only; Really need to check it out again soon Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Solid 3.5 stars. It's probably too muted for many to make much of a splash, but the mix of americana and gloomy urban moods (uncharacteristically electronic-heavy for JW, that alone accounts for some praise) works. It only falters a bit during the more cliched string adagio cues but in between 'The Football Game' and 'Saying the Rosary' there's more interest than in all his last three scores for Spielberg combined. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Zzzzzzzzzz.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTennisBallKid 17 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 It's his best of the 90's! The Football Game is what the Sunday Night Football theme should have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittBash 282 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Solid middle of the pack score. Honestly I probably come back to this one from time to time just to hear the electronic JW rock out session. You know what time to give it a spin again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 Reunion and Finale is heartbreakingly gorgeous and also sad. The highlight of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittBash 282 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, TheTennisBallKid said: The Football Game is what the Sunday Night Football theme should have been. Ha!! Now there’s a “score restore” project for someone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,463 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Great score. Here's a thread I did a couple of months ago: Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Thor said: Great score. Here's a thread I did a couple of months ago: So which are your favourite tracks or moments from this score? And why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,475 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I love this score, but it's hard to rate it, and gave it a rank among all the scores John Williams wrote. It's not a five stars, that's sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Learning the Hard Way has some unusual urban horror sound like Howard Shore's Cosmopolis. There are many outstanding tracks on this soundtrack. I like those subtle depressing scores like Sleepers and Presumed Innocent. Actually, I revisit them quite often. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: Learning the Hard Way has some unusual urban horror sound like Howard Shore's Cosmopolis. There are many outstanding tracks on this soundtrack. I like those subtle depressing scores like Sleepers and Presumed Innocent. Actually, I revisit them quite often. Angela's Ashes, Munich, and The Book Thief might also be in the same category.... Although these are somewhat superior (arguably) to Sleepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,463 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Josh500 said: So which are your favourite tracks or moments from this score? And why? I go into some of that in the other thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Josh500 said: Just wondering whether somebody considers this one of their favorite dramatic scores by JW. I do! It's my favorite JW score. 5 stars all the way Josh500 and Miguel Andrade 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, Romão said: I do! It's my favorite JW score. 5 stars all the way I read your gushing review in the other tread. I'm not that much of a fan of this score (yet), but your love and enthusiasm for this score is infectious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 903 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Hell's Kitchen was both a surprise encore and one of the highlights of Williams 1998 Barbican concerts with the LSO, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 Sleepers at Wilkinson is also great! Maybe it has to do with the fact that it's the very first track, but this and the last track are my most listened tracks from the Sleepers album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTennisBallKid 17 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Romão said: I do! It's my favorite JW score. 5 stars all the way Your enthusiasm for Sleepers was what got me listening to it years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I really like this score. It's a 4 to 4,5 stars from me. Dark, moody but very different urban drama score from Williams. Highlights off the top of my head include Hell's Kitchen, Saying the Rosary, The Trip to Wilkinson, Learning the Hard Way, and Reunion and Finale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 It's really hard to describe this score... It sounds dangerous, horrific, shocking, and lovely at the same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 So everyone here loves this pedestrian Williams score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Nope, I never heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I really don't understand how a score with genuinely moving moments like Always gets written off by the majority of people on this forum, but then everyone is raving about Sleepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Cruel world. Maybe that's what 'Always' lacks, anal rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 It's a solid good score from Williams. A bit slow at points, but it's very strong nonetheless. Saying The Rosary is a fantastic cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I don't love it, personally. Definition of a three-star score for me; nothing that turns me off, but nothing that sticks with me, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I don't rate Sleepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 SAYING THE ROSARY, and THE TRIP TO WILKINSON, are as good as anything he wrote in the mid-90s, and it was a privilege to hear HELL'S KITCHEN performed as an encore, at Barbican, in 1998. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I barely ever listened to this since I first got the CD in 1996. I've been listening to it more ever since Lockhart recorded the Finale. It's a solid 3 star score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,463 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 It's a solid 4.5 score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I tend to agree more with the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Handful of good cues makes it worth a listen or two. 3 out of 5 seems fair for the overall. It's nice to hear something a bit different than his usual output. Every now and then I'll get an urge to listen to a piece from it, like the first rate "Hell's Kitchen", the refreshing "Saying the Rosary", or the near-rock of "The Football Game". Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 14 hours ago, MrScratch said: I've been listening to it more ever since Lockhart recorded the Finale. Wait what? Where can I find this recording? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,643 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 6 hours ago, Josh500 said: Wait what? Where can I find this recording? Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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