Quintus 5,399 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/final-girls/250066/the-13-best-final-girls-in-horror-movie-history The number one spot is quite unexpected but good! Also, I'd put Arnie in Predator in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Laurie Strode should be No.1, and Ripley shouldn't be on this list. Referring to her as "final girl", when compared to others on the list, seems insulting for her character. That term fits more in-line with the slasher genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Alien isn’t a slasher film? The thing goes around picking off the group one by one. Fits the genre to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 4 hours ago, nightscape94 said: Laurie Strode should be No.1, and Ripley shouldn't be on this list. Referring to her as "final girl", when compared to others on the list, seems insulting for her character. That term fits more in-line with the slasher genre. Agreed. She belongs more on a list of "best action heroes" or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 What about Rose Dawson? Last girl alive in the water after the ocean picked off 1500 people and totaled the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, The Doctor said: What about Rose Dawson? Last girl alive in the water after the ocean picked off 1500 people and totaled the ship. The ocean...such a slasher! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 Ripley is totally a final girl! She is in a slasher pic after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 ALIEN is not a slasher pic the way the others on the list are, nor is Ripley merely a 'final girl' genre ingredient. It's rather offensive both to the film as the ambitious artpiece that it is, and to Ripley as the pioneering female action heroine that she is, to reduce them as such. It's a doubly offensive proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 13 hours ago, The Doctor said: What about Rose Dawson? Last girl alive in the water after the ocean picked off 1500 people and totaled the ship. What we seem to be forgetting is that Titanic is a slasher/horror film, with Rose picking off victims directly and indirectly throughout the entire film. She murdered Jack by not budging over a little bit on the floating mantelpiece! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, Thor said: It's rather offensive both to the film as the ambitious artpiece that it is, and to Ripley as the pioneering female action heroine that she is, to reduce them as such. It's a doubly offensive proposition. Hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Who knew Thor was such a precious snob about the Alien movies, that the main character may never be referred to in such foul company as those icky slasher pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 He's livid about this affront! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Alien = high art for Parisians Slashers = mass produced bourgeois trash to pacify the plebs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 Jurassic Park = Thor's all time favourite film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Ripley is not a final girl. The Alien films aren't slasher films. Period! Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 17 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Ripley is not a final girl. The Alien films aren't slasher films. Period! Exactly. Suggestions to the otherwise just implies a complete historylessness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I'm not planning on dying on this hill on debate, but I disagree with Stefan and Thor! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Thor said: Exactly. Suggestions to the otherwise just implies a complete historylessness. It’s a sci-fi horror where the unstoppable force of evil gratuitously murders a group one by one until a final girl remains... slasher movie. Unlucky Bastard and mstrox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 That's like reducing Godard's PIERROT LE FOU to an 'escape flick' or something (a couple escaping their borgeouise existence). It completely misses EVERYTHING about the movie that makes it so great; or -- in fact -- what it is. Reducing ALIEN to a 'slasher pic' or Ripley to a 'final girl' is EXACTLY the same thing. Geez. Talk about a limited view. It's so outlandishly ridiculous, I shouldn't even make the effort to take it seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Latte or chardonnay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Number 1 was ... unexpected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 17 minutes ago, Thor said: That's like reducing Godard's PIERROT LE FOU to an 'escape flick' or something (a couple escaping their borgeouise existence). It completely misses EVERYTHING about the movie that makes it so great; or -- in fact -- what it is. Reducing ALIEN to a 'slasher pic' or Ripley to a 'final girl' is EXACTLY the same thing. Geez. Talk about a limited view. It's so outlandishly ridiculous, I shouldn't even make the effort to take it seriously. Why do "falling under genre conventions" and "elevating the art form" need to be mutually exclusive? Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 23 minutes ago, Thor said: That's like reducing Godard's PIERROT LE FOU to an 'escape flick' or something (a couple escaping their borgeouise existence). It completely misses EVERYTHING about the movie that makes it so great; or -- in fact -- what it is. Reducing ALIEN to a 'slasher pic' or Ripley to a 'final girl' is EXACTLY the same thing. Geez. Talk about a limited view. It's so outlandishly ridiculous, I shouldn't even make the effort to take it seriously. It's why you'll forever be an outsider here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 25 minutes ago, Thor said: That's like reducing Godard's PIERROT LE FOU to an 'escape flick' or something (a couple escaping their borgeouise existence). It completely misses EVERYTHING about the movie that makes it so great; or -- in fact -- what it is. Reducing ALIEN to a 'slasher pic' or Ripley to a 'final girl' is EXACTLY the same thing. Geez. Talk about a limited view. It's so outlandishly ridiculous, I shouldn't even make the effort to take it seriously. Why is it a reduction? It’s a basic plot outline and genre device. I love you Thor, but you’re just being a snob here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 20 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: Why is it a reduction? It’s a basic plot outline and genre device. I love you Thor, but you’re just being a snob here. Are you serious? The whole point of the other films on the list is to subscribe to the 'slasher' genre with everything that entails. In ALIEN, this is just a surface plot device. It's just the starting point from which all other layers are put. If you reduce ALIEN to a slasher movie -- on par with the other entries on that list -- and that's all there is to is, it's a matter of not being able to read or understand a film properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 They never said Alien was on par with the other entries on the list. They said it was better - the best, actually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Regarding Danielle Harris, I wouldn't count her as the 'final girl' in Halloween 4 because her older stepsister Rachel also survived. But she's definitely the final girl of Halloween 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 In Cabin in the Woods, doesn't the nerdy guy also survive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 A Nightmare on Elm Street Part 2 is a tricky one. On one hand, Jesse is the main character and survives to the end, but his girlfriend is really the one who defeats Freddy. Not so clear cut in some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 56 minutes ago, nightscape94 said: In Cabin in the Woods, doesn't the nerdy guy also survive? The pot head, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Alien is a haunted house movie on a spaceship. Ellen can be a final girl. She's not an action hero until Aliens. In Alien she is merely a survivor. Although, since the cat also survives, she is technically not a final girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 Sure. But what about the woodlice, flies and other miscellaneous insects (and probably rats) which survive in Halloween? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Kill the vermin and very few will cry. Kill Jonesey and everyone riots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I agree with Thor, 100%! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 You too have been known to project, so it makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Thor is absolutely right in this case. Even if he says it in the most annoyingly pretentious way possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,220 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 They forgot Hooper and Brody. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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